Forum:  Encounters+                     Section:  Earth Chgs/Prophecy
Subj :  Help on Re-location
To   :  Russell Duclos, 73624,3476      Tuesday, March 28, 1995  2:19:27 AM
From :  Dean M/SL5_ASOP, 75110,3417     #50363

Hi Russell,

 >> We have recently Down loaded Chad.txt, and found Montana not to be as
safe as we had thought.

Can someone give us more info on Montana, and if it would be safe to go
there. <<

I've been trying to figure that out, too.  The only thing I see for Montana
is the prediction of a meteorite hitting a relatively uninhabited area near
the center of the state.  Billings is south-central so would be affected.

I was thinking of some place near the Canadian border in northeastern
Montana. Perhaps even Dickenson ND.

As I understand it, lots of people are moving the the Livingston-Bozeman
area because of Cayce's prediction.  Livingston (IMO) is the farthest
southwest you want to be.  Some people are moving into Paradise Valley
(between Livingston and Yellowstone Park) or into Bozeman (because of the
university there).  Both of those places are nice now -- but very dangerous
(IMO -- gotta keep putting that in there) because of the quakes.

I even think Livingston isn't such a good place until _after_ everything
settles down again.  The safe places are up along the Canadian border (or
into Canada).  Safest cities in the world, from what I can tell, are
Edmonton, Saskatoon, Regina and Calgary.  Winnipeg might be OK, too, but
it's near the edge.

Dean -- from Des Moines



Forum:  Encounters+                     Section:  Earth Chgs/Prophecy
Subj :  Preparing for the future
To   :  Chris Malcheski, 71232,360      Saturday, March 25, 1995  3:47:24 AM
From :  Dean Miller/SL5_ASOP, 75110,3417#49258

Hi Chris,

 >> I wonder where we're going to hide a camper that size that isn't going
to be attacked by the first band of nasties that comes along.  <<

It's essential to be with a group of people -- and far enough away from
population(etc.) that here won't be many nasties with the resources to get
to you.  There will be easier pickings before they get to you.

Remember the story of what stopped Jesse James and his gang.  Just a bunch
of people who weren't going to allow his kind of behavior (in Northfield
Minn. -- a college town, BTW).

Dean -- from Des Moines



Forum:  Encounters+                     Section:  Earth Chgs/Prophecy
Subj :  Preparing for the future
To   :  Lilith, 73664,2411              Saturday, March 25, 1995 11:49:25 AM
From :  nazrool  aberdeen, 76521,1755   #49327

        ( I am feeling led to move recently, but have not determined the
location as yet)
        Chris,
                There is a safe place to move to and, depending where you
live, it might not be that hard. It's in the boundary between the Canadian
provinces of Alberta and British Columbia.  It's far away from the Ring of
Fire in the Pacific, and the Rockies run through it, so it's well protected
from fallout, either nuclear from the south-east, or volcanic from the
west.  Depending on what kind fo house or cabin that you would choose to
live in, it's one of the safest locations on this continent.
                        Just thought you'd like some options.
                                        Jody Aberdeen

Forum:  Encounters+                     Section:  Earth Chgs/Prophecy
Subj :  Preparing for the future
To   :  John W. Ratcliff, 70253,3237    Saturday, March 25, 1995  7:33:07 PM
From :  Dean Miller/SL5_ASOP, 75110,3417#49456

Hi John,

 >> I don't know if you have little children, or not.  I'm certain I would
have a much different attitude about all of this if I did not have
children.  I might be buying a cabin in Montana, with nothing but a
stockpile of food, weapons, and a modem line.  But with 4 kids, young
children, with hopes and dreams for a future, I don't consider that even an
option I wish to weigh in my mind.  <<

There are compromises that can be made.  There are many places that are
perfectly viable if no catastrophe takes place AND have a good chance of
being around if everything except the complete and total destruction
occurs.

You can plan for both.

You can plan to NOT be living in a area the USGS says are unsafe areas.
What areas are unsafe according to USGS?

 Coastal Pacific (it's actually more specific)
 Salt Lake City-Boise-Yellowstone Park
 Memphis-St. Louis (probably Little Rock)
 Buffalo-Rochester
 Boston-NYC

Using the predictions, I would add:

 Coastal New England from Baltimore northward to the St. Lawrence.
 St. Louis south to the Gulf (the Gulf might expand to St. Louis)
 Southern US from South Carolina across to Texas
 Lower Michigan and Chicago-Cleveland strip.
 Niagara Falls-Lake Ontario-St. Lawrence River (includes southern Canada)

As you know, some predictions are worse.

You might notice I didn't mention many places in the US.  These places
could be viable.

However, even without any earth changes style cataclysms, conventional
forecasters paint a pretty grim economic picture.  They are predicting many
more riots in cities due to a major economic downturn.  So living in a big
city or any place close to a big city isn't prudent.

If you're extremely rich and have your own plane with several homes, you
wouldn't have a big problem with an economic downturn (assuming you saw it
coming).  But most of us will have to be prepared in advance -- either with
knowledge and skills or with proper location (hopefully, both).

 >> It's DEPRESSING.  <<

Depends on how you look at it.  If you want to be depressed, there are lots
of choices available.

Dean -- from Des Moines



Forum:  Encounters+                     Section:  Earth Chgs/Prophecy
Subj :  Types of survival
To   :  All                             Wednesday, March 29, 1995  1:02:26 AM
From :  Dean M/SL5_ASOP, 75110,3417     #50753

Hi All,

As I've been reading these messages, the question keeps popping into my
head; "What are we trying to survive?"

To me, disasters can be classified into local, regional and widespread.

Local would be in the immediate area with normal community support services
available (car accident, tornado).  No economic impact except to the
parties directly involved.

Regional would be destroy a county sized area with most community services
within the area cut off (earthquake, hurricane, flood, winter storm,
volcano). Overall economic impact minor (example: some food or energy
prices would rise).

Widespread disasters wipe out large parts of one or more states.  There are
no recent examples of this kind (except for the world wars in Europe to a
small extent).  Economic impact is major and widespread.

In addition to this classification, a time classification might be useful.
This could be: immediate (seconds to a few hours), short term (a few days),
long term (a few weeks) and permanent.

Another classification would be based on weather, climate, terrain or other
environmental factors.

I think that every device or technique could be classified within these
(and other categories).  Then a database could be constructed which would
allow selection of the items based on each individual's personal scenario
and degree of desired involvement.

What do you guys think?

Dean -- from Des Moines via OzWin 1.17



Forum:  Encounters+                     Section:  Earth Chgs/Prophecy
Subj :  Survival kit, skills
To   :  Chris M/SL5, 71232,360          Thursday, April 13, 1995 11:22:16 PM
From :  Don Brunmeier, 71744,3007       #56920

The new sitcoms of the millenia....Married...Without Children.

Actually, you are right, no intention to purposefully leave you out.  You
will then have more than enough reason to have kids then, and repopulate the
planet with little Chris M/SL5's running amok on whatever online service
survives.

Any thoughts on all regulars in this forum actually making some solid plan
to meet somewhere and eke it out as a group/community if and when all these
changes happen?  It's always nicer to group together with those you kind of
know a bit while cataclysms are going on, especially if those in the group
are more "aware" than the usual crowd.  We could make a mission statement,
each could bring things, not only materials, but our minds (I know, scary
thought), and I bet as GMS zips by in his helicopter he will smile and say
"there is that CIS bunch, knew they would make it".  Actually, some type of
annual convention or even "gathering" would be neat, although truly not all
could attend unless most of us had our own leer jets and jobs that we could
just skip away from without retribution for a 4 day weekend.  I would be
willing to put up as the host if it were to be a camp-out type meeting, sure
enough room here, close to the OCEAN (of course, before it moves inland),
rainforest, etc.  Just a thought.

Don