Area: F:UFO
  Msg#: 6816                     Date: 01-22-94  10:36
  From: Walter Bartoo            Read: Yes    Replied: No
    To: Charlie Dunn             Mark:
  Subj: GOVNT DISCLOSER


Hi Charlie: Actually there isn't any problem on this end about anything
Dr. Greer is doing or thinks he is doing. The thing that
exasperates the whole situation is the EGO of all the involved
players and the extreme gulliability of those that for whatever
reason follow one or more of these factions or so called experts.

In reality things are not as any of these agencies, individuals and
investigators think. The point everyone is missing is not the
ET agenda but is the actual wave physics involved in time lines
crossing effecting where this planet will end up in time
effecting Human consciousnesss on an individual effecting
outcomes few let realise. If this one point now muted by
disinformation looked at individualy minus what another might
say they would see a great deception in dramas of those needing
their energy and if this were understood by the many controled
by the few ALL outcomes would then fall into a very distinct
positive relationship to everything else. It was never the good
guys and the bad, it was opportunity coming in changes
effecting mindset. The BLEND is the real agenda not the
disinformation leading everyone into areas of little worth or
talk of raptured enlightenment.

This is a time of opportunity not dooms day as some would believe. I'm
sure we both are aware of the human delima in need of busting
through the illusionary phony power somany think is a reality.
Few have yet to realise the power of mind in all this and the
group aspect it plays in things about to meet on the plains of
energy transformation. The diversion here is massive from the
point of view few have seen in thier thinking the reason and
the opportunity hidden by the deception from denying  that it
is taking place or understanding their is a deception taking
place. It's like the deceiver in this wants everything to end up
so that humanity will miss every real new opportunity or
realise there is a opportunity on their door step to be seen.

Not my problem. Everyone has their free will choice as to deciding their
idea of what is what. What is disturbing is the extent of what
is by their conditioned idea of how reality is perceived  that
holds most into limited ways of seeing what really is or
finding the personal power of finding ones own truth minus the
stereo typed dialog that holds many in a program of illusion
based on the script others feed the public versus what really
is going on. This is in place here in this forum and blocks
certain important information from opening thinking into new
possibilities that would and could uncover the truth. The new
reality is found only by realising new possibilities giving the
whole idea of what is a veil that will expose all deception not
easily decerned by the missng pieces of information not being
allowed or presented here.

Scientificially in the same field new approachs are being devised to
open new aspects of explaining the whole affair. New Physics is
making leaps and bounds in the area of communication in
mathmatics as being a language. I'm thankful these folks are
opening this up for greater discussion in those circles. Anyway
all of you including Greer will understand parts to the puzzle
soon as these facts are revealed. The Global network is now
forming that will disassociated certain restrictions bringing
yet unknown information slipping through the cracks of
censorship now inplace in this country. Since the rebuttal of
Greers input things have accellerated in every area busting the
control and hold on humanity.

If you had received the last newsletter you would have seen discloser to
an area we are approaching that has immense energy. This energy
astounds those who calculate its intensity. Over the years
observations have disclosed it as more intense as we sped
towards it. What it is, is the great deception. What it will do
is another part concealed. The effect on Earth and life it's is
yet another deception. The biggest deception is the positive
aspect effecting your life. Once missed it is missed for each
in an eternal Spirit you each are for a very long long retake
of the possibility of a replay of this experience.

Whats has somany deceived does not want to experience this or allow
those under their control to experience it. reason being they
loose their slave force. I assure you they will leave this
locality long before this arrives. Those going with them are
those unaware of whats coming or anything about it. These Souls
will blindly follow those who tell them they must leave or
parish. Those refusing to leave these same entities will try to
destroy along with the planet if possible. Those who think they
understand what is really taking place should inform the rest
right or wrong. Hiding what they think is really taking place
serves no one.  Everyone should atleast know what others really
preceive. What I understand I share. Everyone should respect
this tact and position as the correct way to act to each other.
ANYONE stating it is better you don't know is not acting in your
behalf. I'm not saying here everyone knows the truth doing
this. But I am saying anyone knowing the truth, governments or
individuals are not acting on your behalf in with holding it.

In my position in this forum until I am allowed to speak I will not do
so here, beyond what I've already said. I have stated my
understanding in greater depth elsewhere and this has been out
there for the taking. This will continue. Follow your personal
inner guidence to get answers, and be quiet to listen to your
Spirit in each of you. It will not fail you. Love is the key to
any energy that you may incounter, and energy of great
magnitude is approaching Earth. regards Walter

-!- FMail 0.92
 ! Origin: ** Spirit BBS - Orvotron ** (1:379/703)


  Area: C:NEW_AGE2
  Msg#: 1266                        Date: 01-1994  20:22
  From: Glenda Stocks               Read: Yes    Replied: No
    To: All Talk.religion.newage    Mark: Del
  Subj: GOVT. DISCLOSURE


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Originally  From: [-WALTER BARTOO-] To: [-CHARLIE DUNN-]
      Conference: [-0055 - S:I_UFO-]  @ [-XBN-] on [-01/06/94-]
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Hi Charlie:

Been following your quotes about Dr. Greer. I'm getting the
impression you and others near him are stating disclosure is
coming about extraterrestrial contact. I'm also getting the
impression this is because agencies are in over their heads and
they no longer feel they can keep it from the public. To that I
say BULL!

My interpretation is, Evil Ets and Benevolent Ets positions have
radically shifted and has changed.

What has changed is the passive Good Ets have had enough crap!
There is a new player on the block and you and Greer are a few of
the selected bunch that will disclose the rewritten script trying
to sell their secrecy as in the best interest of humanity. Again
I say BULL!

You tell Greer if he accepts this dialog and role he in the end
will be right up there with everyone that are about to meet there
maker. Meaning Folks Judgement day is close. They know it and
they have been shown they cannot stop whats coming. The new
player is the EQUALIZER that has appeared and effected the
balance of power in old structures of it on this world. Meaning
they have found nothing to defeat or stop the Equalizer.

If any of you were really following things, about a year or so
ago a peasant in Columbia was given a message for president Bush.
The message said in so many words, the united states' idea of
power is bogus. That if certain things did not change they would
experience REAL POWER. That this would create a situation of
power shifting where as the US would be eating the crumbs from
their third world neighbors as the means to survive. This was on
Sandy's echo, CONTACT, out of colorado. Don Allen may have this
message as we spoke of it just the other night. My copy got lost
in a hard drive crash.

It now appears this is beginning to occur as things are changing
in existing power structures. People everywhere are hearing
Judgement day is near and things from governments are indicating
disclosure to the public. Greer is no great person to be given
this task, and IMO never was. The message, the real one will not
be a spoon fed script, but will come from the average everyday
people around this planet. It will not come from the government
or any high official. They may put out their version. But believe
me or not it will not be the real message.

My prediction for this year is disclosure. It will not only be
heard but will also be seen. Escalation of things undermining the
dark powers on this planet are now directly involved, real, and
have had it in what can only be termed a direct conflict with the
dark powers that control this planet.

The last straw was the persecution of Gods children and the death
of certain individuals here to help and assist humanity to reach
a better understanding based on truth\Love thus enabling humanity
to make their own decision about who they wanted to run Earth and
what they wanted this planet to be. All these attempts were
undermined by deceit, lies, disinformation, censorship and the
persecution and the extermination of certain individuals here
under treaty to do this. This treaty is now non-existent.

A direct protest recently was sent to the Hierarchy in the
central suns. Along with that a request was made to lift
non-intervention because universal law was not being complied
with on Earth and agreements were being undermined under these
laws. Light beings were being murdered and the whole situation
was going against the best interests of humanity and the planet
itself. This was foreseen and an advanced group was sent in, in
the event things got very violent against humanity and this
planet as a whole. This is now taking place.

RE: See Predator File.

However these beings are not predators as the powers that be
would like humanity to believe. They are a stabilizing force here
to prevent a violent genocide of humanity. They are not passive,
they are elite fighting machines who needed to come in to off set
what is already here. They will not attack anything that is not
aggressive or armed.

When things are stabilized, is what 94 is the year for. The
population will realize the truth; as censorship, disinformation
and the dark cloud over humanity will have been lifted. Then each
of you, once again free people, can decide what you want this
planet to be. This is the greatest opportunity for life here in
the last five thousand years since the invaders took over this
planet. It is hoped that you will seek the path of love; if so
you will be given membership in your bigger family in the Stars
as your free will choice.

A personal point of view:

The only thing my presence had to offer was love in my part in
this conference. It's IMO the only thing of worth. Many of you
sought proof of UFO's or what flew them. This was never my
agenda, because many people on Earth knew what really was. I was
one of this group. I never needed proof of anything. What I tried
to share, I did as a brother to a brother. That statement does
not leave out the Ladies here. The Truth is dear, and in my
fondest wishs I ask you all to know there is and always was a
BENEVOLENT side to things, but few could see this. Now you will
understand many things said in the past as the passive side,
hidden, is no longer going to be, nor can it right the imbalances
as such. In this instance Fire must be used against Fire. It is
the only recourse left.

Peace and Love Walter (Kortron).

# Origin: ** Spirit BBS - Orvotron ** (1:379/703)


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