Extracts from the Debate between Deedat & Sjoberg
   
   
   
   

Extracts from the Debate between
Deedat & Sjoberg. Is Jesus God?

AHMED DEEDAT. 

Matthew 19:16-17. 

Let's hear Jesus his humility: 

Matthew chapter 19, verse 16-17. 

And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good
Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he
said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that
is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 

Only God is good he is all good. He refuses that you should even call
him good, how would he ask you to call me God. This quality of goodness,
i might say good pastor and in humility the pastor says: No, i am not such
a good man i have a lot of shortcomings. You say: Mr Deedat you are a very
good man. I say no no no please leave that out you know i have a lot of
shortcomings. We in humility do that, but if Jesus was God this is hypocrisy.
God is good. And if he is God he must say: well i accept what you are telling
me, but as a man he has the right to say no what are you calling me good
for you know the real goodness is in God and he is all good. So therefor
we can see in his own words he is disclaiming any type of divinity that
he is called God, he is disclaiming that. 

The Injil. 

The pastor mentioned that we in Islam we honor the Injil truly. See
when we are talking about injil this is the Injil of Jesus the good news
given by Jesus Christ. We accept whatever Jesus gave if we can see, confirm,
verify that these are the words of Jesus that is the Injil, Injil of Jesus.
But what we have today is not the Injil of Jesus, we belief the Injil the
Gospel of Jesus, not the Injil of Matthew. You read any of the arabic Bible
it says, Injil Mateu, Injil Marka, Injil Loka, Injil Johanna, have you
got the Injil of Esa, we want the Injil of Esa, have you got it, you haven't
got it. 

Last night i refereed was it or where, that you had the red letter Bible
in which every word supposed to be uttered by Jesus are in red. I say that
is only 1/10 of the newtestament 90 of the newtestament is in black. Some
of the books of the newtestament have not even a red spot. Out of the 27
books there is not even a red dot anywhere. That means the word of Jesus
never touched it. You bring you red letter Bible ill show it to you. 

Esa is the Messiah. God does not eat.
 Bismillahi - Rahmani - Rahim. 

"Mal-Masii-hubnu-Maryama 'illa Rasuul;
qad khalat min-qab-lihir-rusul. Wa 'ummuhuu Sidiiq-qah. Kaanaa ya'-kulaanit-ta-'aam.
'Unzur kayfa nubay-yinu lahumul-'Aayaati summan-zur 'annaa yu'-fakuun!"

Mr chairman, chairlady and my dear brothers and sisters. I read to you
a verse from chapter 5 of the Holy Quran, verse nr 75. This is actually
in answer to certain mistatments that pastor Stanly made last night. You
see he made certain charges in that frenzy you know he was worked up, if
you where there last night you had noticed he confessed that he was trembling.
I don't blame him for holding poison in his hand but in that mode he said,
speaking about the prophet Mohammed (saws) that he denied the sonship of
Jesus, that he denied the death and resurrection of Jesus, that he denied
the Messiahship of Jesus, and i say no it isn't frenzy he is talking he
is not true to facts because during the course of my speech i was telling
the audience that we moslems we belive in Jesus. 

We belive that Jesus was one of the mightiest messengers of God, we
belive in his miraculous birth, we belive that he is the messiah translated
Christ, we belive that he gave life to the dead by God's permission and
that he healed those born, blind and leapers by God's permission. 

This is the statement i have made. That we belive that he is the Messiah
not Mohammed is the Messiah. He says no, Mohammed denies that. So i would
like my brother to retrack this statement when he has his 10 minutes that
look he is sorry, but in that verse that i read to you the word is stated:

"Christ, the son of Mary, was no more
thn a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him.
His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food.
See how Allah doth make His Signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they
are deluded away from the truth! 

We all eat food. Why does God almighty want to draw our attention to
the fact that both mother and son they both eat food. Because He is trying
to tell you, that anyone that eats food can never be your God, he is not
worthy of worship. In the Roman Chatholic Church they worship Mary as the
mother of God. The christians generally say Jesus is God, they worship
him. God almighty says that they both eat food in other words if you eat
food you have the call of nature you need the toilette and if there is
no toilette you look for the rock or the bush. 

And this is not the quality of God. God doesn't go to toilets he doesn't
look for bush and rocks to excrete. He doesn't do that.

 
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