Date: 01-29-94  13:22
From: Linda Martin
  To: Linda Love
Subj: HOPIS AT THE U.N.

FROM: 1:510/101
TYPE: Security violation
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Before I start to answer, I want you to know I got your netmail forwarded
to me and was going to give your voice mail a call, but when I installed
my new modem, the cord for my phone broke and I now need to buy a new
phone!  If I don't hear from you before I buy the phone I'll call you,
but essentially the message is: please call my BBS or send netmail to
1:125/19.  My BBS phone number is (510) 547-5741.

And on to the Hopi information!!

 -=> Linda Love mentioned to Glenda Stocks on 01-20-94  22:37 <=-

 LL> I had heard of this - Evidentally, the Hopi message said something
 LL> about the Earth being in a critical stage or something like that - I'm
 LL> sorry I don't remember the exact message other than it was dire, and
 LL> compelling and demanded immediate attention ( which was not given).

 LL> I also would like to have more insight into this matter, if anyone
 LL> out there knows about it.....

Yes... I have some information I saved from a Baha'i Internet mailing list
some time ago.  This was in regards to a message that was circulted some
time ago about the Baha'i Faith being the fulfillment of Hopi prophecies,
according to a statement by Lee Brown.

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From: johnb@uafphpl.uark.edu

   If anyone cares to see a video of the traditionalists and elders
themselves speaking of the Hopi prophecies, it is available (or was
several years ago).

   When these Hopis were refused a hearing before the General Assembly
of the United Nations, time after time, over a period of a few
decades, they finally decided to convey their message to the U.N.
delegates in video format.  The tape is called _Hopi Prayer for Peace_.

   Here is a catalog description:

       _Hopi Prayer for Peace_ is the actual pre-recorded message of
   peace presented to the United Nations by the Hopis.  It is a call
   for world purification: a prophetic mandate for global peace.  On
   the International Day of Peace (September 16, 1986) a delegation of
   elders from Hote Villa, of the Hopi Nation was received by the
   President of the United Nations General Assembly.  Full of love and
   the wisdom of centuries, _Hopi Prayer_ will stir the hearts of all
   viewers who cherish our Mother Earth.

                           (27 min.-------$29.95)

   The prophecy rock with the petroglyphs is shown in the video.  It
is done in such a way, however, that it is impossible to judge the
scale.  I don't know how large the stone is, but it does seem to be
quite large--not something one would be carrying around with them.

   For this reason, I suspect that this prophecy rock is something
different from the "stone tablet".

   To close this I will quote some bits and pieces of the words of one
of the Hopi elders.  Others of the elders get a lot more specific
about the prophecies than this fellow does, but I see no need to get
into fine details here.

From:  _Big Falling Snow_:  A Tewa-Hopi Indian's Life and Times and
the History and Traditions of His People, by Albert Yava--Edited and
Annotated by Harold Courlander.  Copyright 1978.

      This book, _Big Falling Snow_ contains recollections and
   commentaries of Albert Yava, a Tewa-Hopi Indian, whose life spanned
   a critical period of adaptation by his people to what he calls a
   flood of white culture and authority across the mesas of Northern
   Arizona.  He was born in 1888, when the weight of the white man's
   presence was beginning to be fully felt in the Hopi villages.
                           (_Big Falling Snow_, p. 1?, Introduction)

      I don't think the Hopi people ever had an easy time of it from
   the beginning.  It seems that they were living up to a prophecy
   that was made when the people first came out of the underworld.
   That is the basic Hopi creation story, that humans emerged into
   this land from a world beneath the earth.  When the people came
   out, the mockingbird arranged them according to tribes, the tribes
   they were going to be.  He said to one group, "Sit over there.  You
   will be Comanches."  To another, "Sit over there.  You will be
   Hopis."  Another, "Sit over there.  You will be Bahanas (bah-HAH-
   nah), or white people."
                           (_Big Falling Snow_, pp. 4-5)


      It is predicted that another great destruction is coming, this
   one by fire.  According to this prediction, the patters of
   civilized living will deteriorate and people will cease to have
   respect for one another.  Son will fight father, mother will fight
   daughter.  Good living will come to an end, and after that the fire
   will consume everything.
      I can't really say whether that prophecy comes from the Tewa
   side or the Hopi side.  But some people here on this mesa believe
   we are moving toward the destruction by fire because so many young
   people are turning away from the old religious beliefs, and because
   so few are being initiated into the kiva societies where discipline
   is learned.  We can't control the young ple any more.  According
   to some, the destruction by fire can't be far off.  They say that
   only two persons will be left, a male and a female, to repeople the
   earth.
                        (_Big Falling Snow_, p. 46)

      The Fire Clan stayed on in Oraibi until 1906, when they were
   forced to leave.  They founded a new village, Hotevilla.  Still
   today, the Fire Clan has credentials going back, so they say, to
   the emergence from the Third World.  They own a piece of a broken
   stone tablet that, according to their tradition, they have
   possessed ever since leaving the sipapuni.  They say that the other
   portion of the tablet was given to good Bahanas right after the
   emergence.  The reason for that was that there was already a
   prophecy saying that one day far in the future a good Bahana was
   going to come from the East bringing harmony and good fortune to
   the Hopis.  But the Hopis had already been warned that there were
   bad Bahanas as well as good ones.  So when the right Bahana came he
   was supposed to carry the portion of the broken tablet.  If the two
   pieces fit together properly, then the Hopis would know that it was
   the good Bahana that arrived, not some impostor.
      The broken tablet of the fire Clan really exists, at least their
   part of it.  They have it over in Hotevilla.  A number of us have
   seen it.  Yukioma, the last Fire Clan chief in Oraibi, went to
   Washington with a BIA official in 1911 or 1912, and he took that
   broken tablet with him just in case he might run into the white man
   who was supposed to have the other part.  When he returned, some of
   the people asked him, "Did you find the real White Father who has
   the other part?"  He said,  "No, they took me to the Commissioner.
   That's as far as I got.  I didn't get to see the Big White Father."
                        (_Big Falling Snow_, p. 53)

      As I mentioned before, the Oraibis and the First Mesa people
   don't follow the same burial traditions.  The Oraibis bury their
   dead facing west, and the Walpis and Tewas over here bury their
   dead facing east.  The Oraibis base their custom on something said
   to have occurred at the time of the emergence.  So do the First
   Mesa people.  When the people came out of the underworld there was
   a prophecy that a Good Bahana, or white man, would some day come to
   the Hopis from the east to guide them, and bring harmony and a
   good life.  I can't say what clan brought that tradition, but it is
   particularly strong in the Fire Clan, which owns the broken stone
   tablet that's supposed to key in with the Good Bahana's broken
   stone tablet.  Whoever may have contributed that belief, the idea
   is widely accepted among the Hopis.  The Water Clan old ones
   sometimes say that they were the ones who were intended to bring
   harmony.
      Anyway, that special Bahana never arrived.  He is still
   expected, though, especially among old, tradition-minded people.
   for this reason, important personages--village officials, clan
   chiefs and leaders in the kiva societies--usually are buried facing
   the east so that they can recognize and welcome the Good Bahana
   when he makes his appearance.
                        (_Big Falling Snow_, pp. 104-105)

      ...we have had a long line of missionaries parading through the
   villages.  First were the Catholics, but they were thrown out--
   unfortunately not without some sad events, such as the massacre and
   destruction at Awatovi.  Then there were Mennonites, Mormons,
   Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists and Baptists.  You will
   find churches in or close to all the villages now.  The
   missionaries came telling the Hopis and the Tewas that the old
   traditional ways were barbaric, and each one claimed to have the
   true faith, the only one that paid respect to the Great Spirit.
   Because of that old tradition that a Good Bahana would come some
   day, the Hopis and the Tewas listened, some of them wondering if
   this missionary or that missionary was the right one.
                        (_Big Falling Snow_, p. 135)

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