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From : Val Bankston                                          1:330/201.1
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From: "Val Bankston" 
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Dear Jane (et al!),

>Thanks Val for sharing this very bizarre episode.  I really found your
>story interesting.  If it is not too painful for you, I would really
>appreciate hearing more stories from you about your experiences.

As I am able!  Thank you for your interest.  BTW, what do you make of that
story?  Do you think I went back in time and was planted in another family
after having my memory erased, or do you think it was a delusion?  Or do
you think my journey is yet to happen?

I have interviewed many abductees, and as of yet- not one speaks of
engaging in time travel with aliens even though we all seem to be aware
that the aliens do.  A couple have mentioned the Osh-Kosh bib overalls,
though.  I would like to hear more stories from abductees about their
interchanges with these entities.
>
>>From things that you have said in the past, I believe you feel your
>mind/memories were taken from you, is that correct?  I think that must
>be awful for you, if it is so.

Yes.  It is EXTREMELY troubling.  In my late 20's, it bothered me so much
that I did everything I could to unblock my repressed memories, including
taking LSD 10 times, self hypnosis, meditation, taking psilocybin, drinking
and eating marijuana (can't smoke too well), psychoanalysis, etc.
Unfortuantely, when I got to the Gates of Hell, I encountered Cerberus- and
I can't seem to break through that one!

Joke!  :^)

What the truth appears to be is that the repressed memories are encoded
with a special "key", without which they cannot be opened.  In addition,
they are guarded by painful and frightening illusions that break your
forward momentum up for a while.  That is to say at the time my memories
were blocked, the perpetrators safeguarded them against unauthorized access
by torturing me while under drugs and hypnosis, and inserting the vision of
aliens as being causal.  Whenever I get close to the personal truth, one of
these post hypnotic suggestions pops up and distracts me.  I am aware that
these are illusions, so these type events stopped happening.

Now my problem is more one of actual physical strength.  You need to be
well enough to concentrate, and to withstand the emotional assault.  Does
this make any sense?

I have a couple of correspondents- one is an abductee and one is a mind
control victim- both of whom are going through this stage right now.  The
memories are EXTREMELY hard to recover, and it is not advisable to trust
anyone who offers their assistance.  I know of two cases of "human
abductors" who have set themselves up in medical and psychology practices,
the shrink specializing in treating abductees and MPD victims, and the
doctor claiming to help victims of Lupus.  (the symptoms of Lupus are
similar to the symptoms of abductions.  So is Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and
Fibromyalgia.)  This is like a pedophile taking a job at a preschool.  The
stories about these so-called health care professionals are important, and
should be told, and I will do that later, after this- give me strength.

One of my correspondents and I believe that our illnesses may be programmed
"self-destruct" instructions.  While in the deepest parts of our memory
retreival processes, we often exhibit SPECIFIC urges to commit suicide.  My
sister,  (an abductee) for example, was abducted one night and thereafter
had an overwhelming urge to kill herself employing carbon monoxide
poisoning by shutting herself in the garage and getting drunk in the car
with the engine running all night.

She was able to identify these urges as being "external" of source- that
is, it was NOT her own idea.  She didn't know enough about such stuff to
figure out something like that on her own, and she stated so to me.  She
said if she were going to commit suicide, she'd probably take a bottle of
drugs.  I myself was programmed to blow my brains out with two types of
weapons- a shotgun and a hand gun, by pointing them under my chin and into
my brain.  Of course, this would obliterate any nasty little tell-tale
signs of brain tampering, wouldn't it?  The difference between my sister
and I is that I have asked my significant others to have my brain autopsied
after I am dead (which often feels imminent).

My sister is currently just as ill as I am.  Neither of us are capable of
more than a couple of hours in a verticle attitude at this time.  We have
been injected with God knows what substances over the course of our lives,
and during abductions, and there after, we are in a state of "fight or
flight".  So our health is shot.  Severe stress over a lifetime could also
cause these kind of biochemical changes in our immune systems.  This is
common among the abductees I interview, especially those who claim ova and
fetal tissue extractions, and could be due to the drugs they give you to
produce multiple ovulations.

Anyhow, when I report some events, It does fatigue me terribly.  Sometimes,
I get a severe headache and nausea when I go into "the forbidden zone".
This is better than it used to be.  I worked through this so many times,
forcing myself to talk or write about stuff even though I was being blinded
by a headache, or even if I had to exuse myself to puke or have the runs.
This is another reason more abductees don't write about their experiences-
THEY CAN'T.

Anyhow, almost all of what we endure when trying to discover and disclose
the truth about our abductions is an illusion, and we will live through it
if we don't do anything rash.  I am aware of the feeling of being under a
post hypnotic suggestion, so it is not likely that I can be fooled to jump
off a building thinking that it is a diving board.  I had once been
hypnotized to jump into a giant cactus bush, suffering a troublesome
injury- and that taught me how to tell the difference between my own ideas
and those that are "implanted".

My unfortunate theory about all this is that the torments, illnesses,
suicidal thoughts, etc. are there to protect the memories of HUMAN
ABDUCTIONS, for it is while contemplating these events that the worst of
the symptoms appear.

Also, people who are outspoken about this are often bombarded with tactics
to cause them to "go off the deep end" which include but are not limited
to:

Obvious break ins to their homes.
Obvious "tails" following them.
The use of EMF or ELF type non lethal weapons.
The  use of "agents provacateurs" to bust up their relationships or businesses.
Encouraging the abductee to join metaphysical groups wherin they are
further hypnotized.
Drugging the abductee at "abductee" gatherings.
Threatening the abductee.
Running the abductee off the road in their car.
Hypnotizing the abductee to have an "accident"
Harassing the abductees children.

I know of one abductee / mind control victim, a famous one- who was told
that her child was conceived by a space entity who was going to come and
take the little girl away because the abductee was "promiscuous".  Here is

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Date : Wed Jun 05, 20:14                                                       
From : Val Bankston                                          1:330/201.1
To   : All                                 
Subj : For Jane (and Rich and D-4) re: abductions / mind control             
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Reply-to: iufo@alterzone.com
From: "Val Bankston" 
Originally to: iufo@alterzone.com
Sender: iufo-approval@alterzone.com
Original Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 15:19:49 -0700

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the text of a letter to her that I got my hands on during some of my own
"field research":

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

November 22, 1994,

My Dearest C******,

It has been over seventeen of your years since we last engaged to bring a
new gene pool to the human race.

It was not our intent to bring fear or dread to you during the impregnation
of you with our daughter but after the initial shock of what was happening
wore off and the application of the physiocybernetic implantation, you
calmed down and accepted your role as an (sic) terra mother.

Our daughter, through you, is an extenuation of my race, which is dying due
to inbreeding.  She has the genes of both Terra and Coledera and she is a
beautifull mix of both our physical and metaphysical beings.

C******, you probably know by now that our daughter has certain PSI
abilities that she is not able to control.  It is my duty as her father to
teach her how to control these abilities.  During her sleep, when her mind
is open, we talk as father and daughter.  This is something she has not
shared with you.

She has been having troubles due to your promiscuity and this is my falut.
The physocybernetic implantation and hypnotic state you were put in gave
you an orgasm that cannot be recreated unless the entire situation were
duplicated.  This shall not be.  I am very sorry C******, but this was not
meant to happen and is not something I can undo.  Your search for this
orgasm was and is the reason for your promiscuity.  I AM SO VERY, VERY
SORRY.

The best thing I can do is come and take my daughter back to Coledera where
she can be properly educated in her PSI abilities and meet a male of our
race and breed with him.  It is your duty to prepare her for change of
worlds and prepare her for Coledera.  It is time.

Due to my respect and admiration for you, we will not meet again, I will
just come for her and we will be gone.  She knows me and will communicate
via our PSi abilities.  We will communicate with you often and will awways
be on our mind although we will not meet.  It is best this way.  A clean
cut, much pain for a short time and then just a memory.  It is for the
best.

FATHER OF YOUR DAUGHTER

                Baldor, the Magnificent
                son of Jackovie the Ugly
                son of Kalmar the Prolific
                son of Baldom the Huge
                son of Kalid the Holy, Benevolent and Benign God,

                                CROTOMOS

May your gods always be with you and the solar winds be to your lee.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I was given a copy of this by a UFO researcher and documentarian (a person
I was infiltrating because I recognized him from one failed abduction
attempt on myself, and from following me).  He was laughing about this.  He
claimed another UFO researcher had sent this to the abductee, to pull her
leg.  The researcher he claimed it to be was currently engaged in a public
battle to discredit a prominent UFO luminary.  I didn't believe him when he
told me this, because he acted like he was lying, and because he was at
personal odds with the researcher he claimed wrote the letter.

I believe that the person who sent this letter is a researcher I myself
worked with for a period of time, who specializes in studying cases of
abductees who believe they have been mind controlled.  The abductee
referred to above is well known as such and has been actively discussing
these matters.

The researcher to whom I am referring had been conducting a long-term study
and relationship with her, which included sexual relations, and is now
publically discrediting her every chance he gets.  This is what he told me
about her:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

She came on to ME big-time - as is evidenced by scads of lovey-dovey
letters she sent me over the past six years, off and on up until last
December. Also tapes she sent me, even before we met. She was after me all
the time to ask her to move in with me. I know now that she never really
loved me. Basically, deep down, she just wanted me to support her, because
she does not want to work for a living. And she was frustrated because I
was having a hard enough time supporting myself.

You know, she even tried the old "false pregnancy" trick in order to get me
to ask her to marry her. Fortunately, I could tell that she was lying.

I really tried to make it work with C******. But she exemplifies the
abductee mentality.

See, this why I won't stand for any paranoia directed against me. Because I
know the reason for the paranoia.

You know why abductees and other claimed victims act they way they do?
Because they - like C******, (...) are MANIPULATIVE. They want always to be
the center of attention. Most of all, they want NEVER to be contradicted or
questioned.

Here's how it works: If anyone around the "victim" ever says anything that
bothers her (it's usually a her) in any way, the "victim" immediately
starts to denounce that person as being part of the bad guy league that's
out to get her. In order to get back in the victim's good graces, one has
to do and say precisely what the victim wants done and said at all times.

That's how paranoid accusations function as a mechanism of manipulation.

(...)  C******, now, she's a pro. It's like she took a master class. Boy, I
wish I had the energy to write the whole story. I learned never to ask hard
questions regarding the more "iffy" portions of her story - if I even
attempted to do that, she'd sniff out where I was heading, and suddenly I
would be a bad guy again. "You're like all the rest! You just want to USE
me! Nobody BELIEVES me!" See how the manipulation works?

No matter what dumb thing she said or did, I was required to respond as
follows: "Gee C******, that was a GOOD thing..." It was like being trapped
in that old Twilight Zone episode where young Billy Mummy has cosmic
powers. Every irrational decision she made was unquestionable. If I DID
question her, she'd start acting like I was part of the conspiracy that was
out to get her.

Like I said: MANIPULATIVE.

(...)I do not accept even ONE paranoid accusation against me. You tell ONE
lie about me, and I will come down on you like a ton of bricks.

I know that policy is harsh, but it's the only way I can force these
goddamned SELF-CENTERED claimed abductees and wavies and abuse victims to
think twice before they open their mouths and utter bullshit lies against
me. (...)

By the way - if ever a lay person were qualified to diagnose paranoia, I am.


XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

This was written by the researcher *I suspect* wrote the letter from
Baldor.  I used to deal with him in the 80's, but quit.

This researcher was continually attempting to put words in my mouth.  He
was a manipulative bully.  He introduced me to a real bad dude who harassed
and followed and threatened me continually *and who was with Sirhan B.
Sirhan the night before he shot RFK*.  He told me that my husband was a

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Date : Wed Jun 05, 20:14                                                       
From : Val Bankston                                          1:330/201.1
To   : All                                 
Subj : For Jane (and Rich and D-4) re: abductions / mind control             
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Reply-to: iufo@alterzone.com
From: "Val Bankston" 
Originally to: iufo@alterzone.com
Sender: iufo-approval@alterzone.com
Original Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 15:19:49 -0700

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jerk and not to be trusted, but that he (the researcher) was trustworthy
and was the only one who was willing to help me.

He was continually asking me to go out on jaunts with him alone AFTER
MIDNIGHT, which I refused to do, and which he attempted to bully me into
doing.  I didn't want to go anywhere alone with him, since I had memories
of having been drugged, stripped naked, asked questions and tape recorded
by him.  I didn't know if these were real memories at the time.  One of the
things he did that I remember was to tell me that an alien was coming after
me at the end of the drug and hypnosis session, which frightened me and
caused  me to focus on that aspect of the evening rather than what
preceeded it.  I didn't want to take a chance that he was hypnoprogramming
me, so I insisted that I would not engage in any more interviews unless
accompanied by my husband.  But he refused to conduct any interviews with
me in the presence of others or even in my own home.  I found his
reluctance to have a witness present, coupled with my memory of having been
naked, drugged and hypnotized in his company, very unsettling.  So I quit
him.

I ask you, if the researcher who wrote these statements believes what he
wrote about the psychology of abductees, how come he palms off their
testimonials as credible in his published works?  That seems a little
parasitic.

Anyhow, the above diatribe by him was written because I again refused to
allow him to put words in my mouth regarding events that occurred years
ago, and he threatened to expose me publically as a liar and a looney.  He
even made up a horrible story about me, sent it to me, and threatened to
publish it as though it were the truth, using my real name.

Because I have firsthand knowledge that he attempts to manipulate people
into silence by making up slanderous stories about them and telling them to
others in the community, I am sure that the above story about the abductee
is *not true*.  I am sure that he is deseminating this false story to
discredit her.  He had NO REASON to write any of that to me. I believe that
he was (and perhaps still is) involved in an elaborate mindf***  that the
abductee was the target of.

I consider the letter from "Baldor the Magnificent" to be "evidence" that
she was being subjected to psi-ops while their relationship was underway
(translate- while under his "control").  They both had a parting of the
ways the month *following* the sending of this letter.

All in all, I have discovered that C****** has had dealings with two of
those who dicked around with me:

The "researcher" who studies abductee / mind control victims
The researcher / documentarian / suspected abductor that I studied (who is
ex ASA two tours, and subsequent "contract" agent)

Here is the worst of it.  I *know* from having closely observed this
operation for several years that:

This "researcher" is part of a network.  The network includes the
"researcher" who handed me the letter to the abductee I copied above.

The network has ties to the assasination of RFK.  One of the "researcher's"
associates, the one who introduced HIM to ME, is the niece of Sirhan's
attourney.  She moved a couple of blocks away from my house about a year
before I moved upstate.  She is also a UFO researcher.  It was through her
that I came upon the shrink who is the abductor.  I further infiltrated
this group by becoming a patient of the shrink.  An amazing series of
events ensued.

This is such a long story, I have to close it here or go onto another line
of detailed testimony.  My point of the moment is made, though.

Abductees are hard pressed to relate their info publically.  When they do,
they come under attack.  Some of those that attack them are PROBABLY the
perpetrators of their abductions.  They can and do employ manipulative
psychological tactics to disorient the abductee and create paranoia in the
abductee so that they can later discredit the abductee's testimony by
claiming that they are mentally ill.  Like the "researcher" above did.

I have a headache and gotta lie down.

But, Jane- if you read this far, did you get my note about me sending you a
tape, and visa versa?  Write me at val@foothill.net and I'll swap addresses
and tapes.  The only e-mail address I have for you looks like it goes to
the old list, and I don't want anyone else getting my snail address.

Love,

Val
the abductee


...living proof that it takes all kinds...



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