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Date : Nov 15 '95, 08:21                                                       
From : John F. Winston                                         1:330/202
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Subj : Mr. Cooper And UFOs.    Part 2.                                       
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Subject: Mr. Cooper And UFOs.    Part 2.
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      "I was assigned to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Com-
    mander in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet, who had to
    know everything concerning his area of operations which was one-
    half of the Earth's surface; the Indian ocean, the Pacific
    ocean, and all the land masses in between. Believe it or not, if
    we go to war, if we ever go to war, it's the United States Navy
    that strikes the first blow and attempts to keep the enemy at
    bey while we can get ourselves together, at least historically.
    Nuclear weapons have kind of done away with that concept, but
    military commanders like to talk about it anyway."
     "Because of this, and you have no conception of the amount of
    material and information that an area commander has to know,
    it's unbelievable, and he has to keep track of this, he has to
    keep on top of it. He has to know what's happening, he has to
    make the right decisions. Because it's almost humanly impossible
    for anyone to do that, they have what's called a briefing team,
    and it's our job to make sure that he has the correct informa-
    tion, all the time, on a 24-hour basis. And every morning, be-
    tween 8 and 9 AM, we would give a briefing which covered every-
    thing that happened in the previous 24-hours, and everything
    scheduled to happen in the next 24-hours, and all the pertinent
    intelligence reports that we had received since the last brief-
    ing that he needed to know and that his staff members needed to
    know. Occasionally we would get messages marked `Top Secret,
    Magic, Restricted Information,' and it would be coded in such a
    way that all you had were answers to questions which you didn't
    know what the questions were so you really didn't know what the
    message was all about."
     "But eventually I found myself in possession, holding two
    documents; one called `Project Grudge,' another one called `Op-
    eration Majority.' Project Grudge contained the history of alien
    involvement since around 1936, and it began talking about
    Germany's involvement with a crashed-disk that they had reco-
    vered in 1936 and were attempting to duplicate the technology.
    They were not successful despite what all these Nazi hunters
    want to tell you. If they had been successful, we would not have
    won the war, because you cannot beat those weapons! You cannot
    outfly those craft, you can't even think about it with conven-
    tional aircraft. If Germany had been successful, we would now
    have a German flag up in front of this podium."
     "They did make some headway. When we went into Punta Mundy
    [sp] we captured documents, we got some scientists, we got some
    hardware. The Russians also got some documents, some scientists,
    and some hardware. It wasn't until 1947 that we were able to
    capture a craft, a whole craft, not all together but it was
    everything. And that occurred near the city of Roswell, New
    Mexico. There were dead aliens recovered from the craft. In Pro-
    ject Grudge I saw photographs of these dead aliens, of the
    craft, I saw photographs of live aliens, I saw photographs of
    autopsies, internal organs, I saw photographs of the alien des-
    ignated `E.B.'[or Ebe] which was held in captivity from 1949 un-
    til June the 2nd, 1952 when he died. I saw the history of what
    they had been able to at that time put together, from incidents
    in the 1800's which involved aliens and their craft."
      "I saw the names of projects. I saw a project that was to fly
    recovered alien craft that had been recovered intact and undam-
    aged, and some of them were recovered intact and undamaged, and
    how that happened I have no idea. It was called `Project Red-
    light,' and first was conducted from the Tonopah test range in
    the Nevada test sight and then was moved to a specially built
    area, ordered built by president Eisenhower, called `Area-51,'
    code named `Dreamland,' in the Groom [sp] dry lake area of the
    Nevada test sight, by secret executive order. It doesn't exist
    officially, if you ask anyone, or if you write letters to the
    government they will tell you it doesn't exist. However if you
    go out there at several places and see it, fly outside the
    boundaries and look down and see it, you know it's there, but
    according to the government it doesn't exist."
      "The project to fly, test fly these craft, was ongoing until
    sometime in 1962 when a craft blew up not far from the test
    sight, in the air, and the explosion was seen over a three-state
    area. The pilots were killed, they had no idea what had happened
    or why the craft blew up, but they put Project Redlight on hold
    until a later date when the aliens supplied us with 3-craft and
    personnel to help us learn how to fly these craft. That project
    is ongoing and we now have not only alien craft that we are fly-
    ing, we have craft we have built, using the captured technology,
    and some of the UFO's that people report seeing in the United
    States, and maybe even elsewhere, are flown by United States
    personnel."
      "That may come as a shock to you. We have technology way be-
    yond the limits of what we have been told. A lot of our develop-
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Finally, he writes:
          now than I did when I fought in Vietnam.  I am doing my 
          duty.
            Please make copies of this file and send it to your
          Congressman, your Senator, the Attorney General of the 
          United States, and to the Supreme Court.  Send it also to 
          everyone you know.  Attach copies of the Bill English file 
          and John Lear's file.  Send anything else you may have which 
          tends to support the information.
            I, Milton William Cooper, 1311 S. Highland #205, 
          Fullerton, California, 92632, (714) 680-9537, do solemnly 
          swear that the information contained in this file is true 
          and correct to the best of my knowledge.  I swear that I 
          saw this information in 1972 in the performance of my 
          duties as a member of the Intelligence Briefing Team of the 
          Commander In Chief of the Pacific Fleet as a Petty Officer 
          in the US Navy.  I swear that I underwent hypnotic 
          regression in order to make the information as accurate as 
          possible.  I swear that I can and will take a lie detector 
          test or any other test of any reputable person's choosing in 
          order to confirm this information.  I swear that I can and 
          will undergo hypnotic regression conducted by any reputable 
          and qualified Doctor of any reputable person's choosing in 
          order to confirm this information.  I will not, however 
          submit to any test or hypnosis by anyone who is now or
          has ever been connected with the Government in any capacity 
          for obvious reasons.

JW  I can assure you that many people hate Bill's intestines.

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Date : Nov 15 '95, 22:25                                                       
From : John F. Winston                                         1:330/202
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Subj : Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 3.                                 
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Subject: Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 3.
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Subject: Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 3.

................................................................
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  The following is brief listing of everything that I personally
saw and know from 1972 and does not contain any input from any
other source whatsoever.

  MAJESTY was listed as the code word for the President of the
United States for communications concerning this information.
OPERATION MAJORITY is the name of the operation responsible
for every aspect, project, and consequence of alien presence on
earth.
  GRUDGE Contains 16 volumes of documented information collected
from the beginning of the United States investigation of
Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's) and Identified Alien Crafts
IAC).  The project was funded by CIA confidential funds (non-
appropriated) and money from the illicit drug trade.
 Participation in the illegal drug trade was justified in that it
would identify and eliminate the weak elements of our society.
 The purpose of project GRUDGE was to collect all scientific,
technological, medical and intelligence information from UFO/IAC
sightings and contacts with alien life forms.  This orderly file
of collected information has been used to advance the United
States Space Program.
  MJ-12 is the name of the secret control group.  President
Eisenhower commissioned a secret society known as THE JASON
SOCIETY (JASON SCHOLARS) to sift through all the facts,
evidence, technology, lies and deception and find the truth of
the alien question.  The society was made up of 32 of the most
prominent men in the country in 1972 and the top 12 members were
designated MJ-12.  MJ-12 has total control over everything.
They are designated by the codes J-1, J-2, etc all the way
through the members of the Jason Society.
The director of the CIA was appointed J-1 and is the Director
of MJ-12.  MJ-12 is responsible only to the President.  MJ-12
runs most of the world's illegal drug trade.  This was done to
hide funding and thus keep the secret from the Congress and the
people of the United States.  It was justified in that it would
identify and eliminate the weak elements of our society.  The
cost of funding the alien connected projects is higher than
anything you can imagine.  MJ-12 assassinated President Kennedy
when he informed them that he was going to tell the public all
the facts of the alien presence.  He was killed by the Secret
Service agent driving his car and it is plainly visible in the
film held from public view.
  A secret meeting place was constructed for MJ-12 in MARYLAND
and it was described as only accessible by air.  It contains
full living, recreational, and other facilities for MJ-12 and
 
the JASON SOCIETY.  It is code named "THE COUNTRY CLUB". Only
those with TOP SECRET/MAJIC clearance are allowed to go there.
MAJI is the MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE.  All
information, disinformation, and intelligence is gathered and
evaluated by this agency.  This agency is responsible for all
disinformation and operates in conjunction with the CIA, NSA,
and the Defense Intelligence Agency.  This is a very powerful
organization and all alien projects are under its control.  MAJI
is responsible only to MJ-12.
  SIGMA is the project which first established communications
with the aliens and is still responsible for communications.
PLATO is the project responsible for Diplomatic relations with
the aliens.  This project secured a formal treaty (illegal under
the Constitution) with the aliens.  The terms were that the
aliens would give us technology.  In return we agreed to keep
their presence on earth a secret, not to interfere in any way
with their actions, and to allow them to abduct humans and
animals.  The aliens agreed to furnish MJ-12 with a list of
abductees on a periodic basis.
  MAJIC is the security classification and clearance of all
alien connected material, projects, and information.  MAJIC
means MAJI Controlled.
  AQUARIUS is a project which compiled the history of alien
presence and their interaction with Homo Sapiens upon this
planet for the last 25,000 years and culminating with the Basque
people who live in the mountainous country on the border of
France and Spain and the Syrians.
  GARNET is the project responsible for control of all
information and documents regarding this subject and
accountability of the information and documents.
  PLUTO is a project to evaluate all UFO/ IAC information
pertaining to space telZk{k+9kR [TRANSMISSION GARBLED]
 POUNCE is the project formed to recover all downed/ crashed
craft and aliens.
  REDLIGHT is the project to test fly recovered alien craft.  It
is conducted at AREA 51 (DREAMLAND) in Nevada.  It was aided
when the aliens gave us craft and helped us fly them.  The
initial project was somewhat successful in that we flew a
recovered craft but it blew up in the air and the pilots were
killed.  The project was suspended at that time until the aliens
agreed to help us.
  SNOWBIRD was established as a cover for project REDLIGHT.
Several flying saucer type craft were built using conventional
technology.  They were unveiled to the press and flown in front
of the press.  The purpose was to explain accidental sightings
or disclosure of REDLIGHT as having been the SNOWBIRD craft.
  LUNA is the alien base on the far side of the Moon.  It was
seen and filmed by the Apollo Astronauts.  A base, a mining
operation using very large machines, and the very large alien
craft described in sighting reports as MOTHER SHIPS exist there.
  NRO is the National Recon Organization based at Fort Carson,
Colorado.  It is responsible for security for all alien or alien
craft connected projects.
  DELTA is the designation for the specific arm of the NRO which
is especially trained and tasked with security of these
projects.
  JOSHUA is a project to develop a low frequency pulsed sound
generating weapon.  It was said that this weapon would be
effective against the alien craft and beam weapons.
  EXCALIBUR is a weapon to destroy the alien underground bases.
It is to be a missile capable of penetrating 1000 meters of
Tuff/hard packed soil such as that found in New Mexico with no
operational damage.  Missile apogee not to exceed 30,000 feet
  AGL and impact must not deviate in excess of 50 meters from
designated target.  The device will carry a 1 megaton nuclear
warhead.
  ALIENS, there were 4 types of aliens mentioned in the papers.
A LARGE NOSED GREY with whom we have the treaty, the GREY
reported in abductee cases that works for the LARGE NOSED GREY,
a blond human like type described as the NORDIC, a red haired
human like type called the ORANGE.  The home of the aliens were
described as being a star in the Constellation of Orion,
Barnards star, and Zeta Riticuli 1&2.  I cannot remember even
under hypnosis which alien belongs to which star.
EBE is the name or designation given to the live alien
captured at the 1949 Roswell crash.  He died in captivity.
  KRLL OR KRLLL OR CRLL OR CRLLL pronounced Crill or Krill was
the hostage left with us at the first Holloman landing as a
pledge that the aliens would carry out their part of the basic
agreement reached during that meeting.  KRLL gave us the
foundation of the yellow book which was completed by the guests
at a later date.  KRLL became sick and was nursed by Dr. G.
Mendoza who became the expert on alien biology and medicine.
  KRLL later died.  His information was disseminated under the
pseudonym O.H. Cril or Crill.
  GUESTS were aliens exchanged for humans who gave us the
balance of the yellow book.  At the time I saw the information
there were only 3 left alive.  They were called (P&#'s) Alien
  Life Forms.  [TRANSMISSION GARBLED]
  RELIGION  The aliens claim to have created Homo Sapiens
through hybridization.  The papers said that RH-blood was proof
of this.  They further claimed to have created all four major
religions.  They showed a hologram of the crucifixion of Christ
which the Government filmed.  They claim that Jesus was created
by them.
  ALIEN BASES exist in the four corners area of Utah, Colorado,
New Mexico, and Nevada.  Six bases were described in the 1972
papers, all on indian reservations and all in the four corners
area. The base near Dulce was one of them.
  MURDER  The documents stated that many military and government
personnel had been terminated (murdered without due process of
law) when they had attempted to reveal the secret.
  CRAFT RECOVERIES  The documents stated that many craft had
been recovered.  The early ones from Roswell, Aztec, Roswell
again, Texas, Mexico, and other places.


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Date : Nov 22 '95, 22:45                                                       
From : John F. Winston                                         1:330/202
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Subj : Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 4.                                 
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From: "John F. Winston" 
Subject: Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 4.
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:45:39 -0800 (PST)

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Subject: Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.

  Here is the fourth part of the the information from Bill
Cooper.  Some people hate him and some people love him.
John Winston.

..............................................................
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GENERAL DOOLITTLE made a prediction that one day we would have
to reckon with the aliens and the document stated that it
appeared that General Doolittle was correct.
ADUCTIONS were occurring long before 1972.  The document
stated that humans and animals were being abducted and or
mutilated.  Many vanished without a trace.  They were taking
sperm and ova samples, tissue, performed surgical operations,
implanted a spherical device 40 to 80 microns in size near the
optic nerve in the brain and all attempts to remove it resulted
in the death of the patient.  The document estimated that 1 in
every 40 people hd been implanted.  This implant was said to
give the aliens total control of that human.
CONTINGENCY PLAN SHOULD THE INFORMATION BECOME PUBLIC OR
SHOULD THE ALIENS ATTEMPT A TAKEOVER.
This plan called for a public announcement that a terrorist
group had entered the United States with an Atomic weapon.  It
would be announced that the terrorists planned to detonate the
weapon in a major city.  Martial Law would be declared and all
persons with implants would be rounded up along with all
dissidents and would be placed into concentration camps.  The
press, radio, and TV would be nationalized and controlled.
Anyone attempting to resist would be arrested or killed.
CONTINGENCY PLAN TO CONTAIN OR DELAY RELEASE OF INFORMATION
This plan called for the use of MAJESTIC TWELVE as a
disinformation ploy to delay and confuse the release of
information should anyone get close to the truth.  It was
selected because of the similarity of spelling and the
similarity to MJ-12.  It was designed to confuse memory and to
result in a fruitless search for material which did not exist.
SOURCE OF MATERIAL CONTAINED IN THE DOCUMENTS WHICH I SAW
The source of the material was an ONI counter-intelligence
operation against MJ-12 in order for the Navy to find out the
truth of what was really going on.  The Navy (at that time or at
least the Navy that I worked for) were not participants in any
of this.  The different services and the government conduct this
type of operation against each other all the time.  The result
of this operation was that the Navy cut themselves in for a
piece of the action (technology) and control of some projects.
As you can see this file is only a little different from my
previous file.  Only some names were scrambled previously to
confuse the government long enough for someone to verify that
what I have said is the truth.  I have added information in this
file that puts me in absolute danger.  I have sent a copy of
this file to people all over the country and will continue to do
so.  Please get this file into as many ands as you can and
maybe that will protect me but I doubt it.
HISTORY WILL BE THE JUDGE OF ME AND THIS INFORMATION AND I
HAVE NO FEAR OF THAT JUDGEMENT.  I SWEAR THAT THIS INFORMATION
IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.
I wish to thank all those people who have aided me in reaching
this point and for their patience and understanding.  I owe you
all more than I can ever repay.
Finally, it does not matter who is right and who is wrong or
if a project name is in the wrong place.  It does not matter who
is working for who or what is really what.  It should be obvious
by now that something sinister and terribly wrong is going on
involving the government and the UFO phenomenon.  We must all
band together and expose it now.  I have done my part in the
best manner that I could.  I can add nothing else except my
testimony in Congress or a court of law that what I saw and have
written in this file is true and that I saw it.
Everything in my previous file that does not conflict with
this file is true and correct to the best of my knowledge and
some of it is from sources and research.  You may combine the
files to get the entire picture.  Throw out only that
information which conflicts with that contained in this file.
There will be no further additions or corrections to this
information either now or in the future.  My file is complete
and stands to be judged by history.  Sometime in the future the
exact papers that I saw will surface and you will all see this
exact information contained within them.
Milton William Cooper
1/10/89
 
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Subj : Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 5.                                 
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Subject: Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part .
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:49:56 -0800 (PST)

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  Here is part 5 of the information about Bill Cooper.
John Winston.

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As the hour drew late another question, more clearly stated,
was asked of Mr. Cooper by a woman closer to my ears, "Before
you let us all out of here, there's a bunch of us here wondering
what can we all do to help bring this all out?"
A single word, "REVOLT" issued from several listeners simul-
taneously but Cooper responded, "Don't revolt. What you need to
do is what you should have been doing all along. You need to get
involved with your government. The first thing you need to do is
purchase a copy of the Constitution, which I know that most of
you don't have anywhere in your house, and if I were to go
around this room and ask each person what the Constitution says,
most of you couldn't tell me what the Constitution says from
your grocery bill. And that's the truth! And that IS your coun-
try! So if you don't know what your Constitution is you're dead
already, so the first thing you do is you get a copy of your
Constitution. The second thing you do is you learn it! The third
thing you do is you start calling your senators and your repre-
sentatives, and the President of the United States and you start
leaning on them, and you tell them, `Unless you straighten up
the government, and unless we start getting the truth, and I
mean the whole truth, and no more of this baloney, this's the
last job you're ever gonna have, period. And I'll do everything
in my power to make sure that comes true.' And then write them,
frequently, saying the same thing. And then when they're in your
area, in their area offices, take a little delegation and go see
them, and make them understand that they're gonna be living in
poverty because they're not gonna hav a job anymore come elec-
tion day. You see, the secret government may own the executive
branch, but you people, all of us, we own the Congress, and the
Congress makes the laws, and the Congress can impeach the entire
executive branch! You also have the right to petition the gov-
ernment for a redress of injuries. So you ARE powerful, you've
just forgotten that you're powerful, you've forgotten that that
vote that you haven't been doing every time election comes
around, that vote has abdicated your power. That vote you did
not cast abdicated your power and gave it to those who are
subverting the Constitution and are ruining this country."
A gentleman then asked, "What was traded to the aliens for
their technology?"
"People and animals," replied Cooper succinctly.
Another man asked, "Is the Soviet Union in on any of this?"
"The Soviet Union and the United States of America have been
close allies since the end of World War II and have been closely
participating in the secret space program all this time. The
Soviets have the same thing we have, yes. What you see happening
in the Soviet block right now is not the result of people stand-
ig up and saying, `We want to be free.' It's the result of the
international bankers saying, `You tear down these barriers, and
you meet the West half way, give your people some freedom, the
West is gonna take some freedom away from their people so that
we can put together a one-world economic system ...and have all
the power. That's what's happening! If you don't believe it,
stick around and watch it!"
A dubious woman then asked, "Why was the shellfish poison
necessary? A lot of his brain was blown off anyway."
Cooper: "The shellfish poison? If you go to kill someone, one
thing I've learned, I learned it real good, I learned it espe-
cially good when I went to Viet Nam; just `cause you shoot some-
one doesn't mean they're gonna die. And if they don't die,
they're gonna be MAD. And if they've got a gun, you're dead. So
you want the first time to be the last time. So if you really
wan to to kill somebody you don't play around. If you REALLY
want to kill somebody ...you KILL them, you don't play, you make
sure that when you shoot them, they're dead. That way they can't
hurt you, can't hurt you at all."
Regrettably, the next question was totally unintelligible, I
was thankful however that Mr. Cooper had a good public address
system to amplify his reply, "The first moon landing was May the
22nd, 1962... or excuse me, that was the first landing on Mars.
I'm sorry, May the 22nd, 1962 was the winged probe that used a
hydrozine propeller, flew around approximately 3-orbits and lan-
ded on May the 22nd, 1962, was a joint United States / Russian
endeavor. The first time that we landed on the moon was sometime
during the ...probably middle 50's, because at the time when
President Kennedy stated that he wanted a man to set foot on the
moon by the end of the decade we already had a base there."
"What about Mars?" came another quick question.
"We have a base on Mars also," Cooper calmly replied.
"When did that happen?"
"I don't know the exact date but I know the project's name, it
was `Adam and Eve'."
"How long have you known about this?"
"Well, I revealed it publicly for the first time on July the
2nd, 1989, and within 3-weeks of the time I revealed it public-
ly, the government, to get the American people not to listen to
me, came out and said that they planned to build a base on the
moon and a colony on Mars. Now, 3-days previous to my speech,
representatives from NASA said, `We can never have a colony on
Mars, it's impossible that there's a colony on Mars because Mars
is a dead planet.' And it's NOT a dead planet, they've lied to
you about Mars."
"My name is Dave [unintelligible], I'm a representative of the
Crystic Institute, and I'd like to know why it was that when we
sent a representative down to your home, at your request, you
failed to produce any documentation to substantiate your allega-
tions."

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From: "John F. Winston" 
Subject: Mr.Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 6.
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Subject: Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.            Nov. 29, 1995.

  You will probably find this material very negative and 
unpleasant to read, so if you are only looking for sweetness
and light you might choose not to read it.

  This is the sixth part of the information about Mr. Cooper 
and his ideas about UFOs.  I once had the opportunity to 
talk with Bill Cooper and I believe he is even more paranoid 
that I am.
John Winston.

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 "In the first place it was NOT at my request, I have never
contacted the Crystic Institute in my life. I was on the Carol
Hemingway Show, she contacted the Crystic institute, she told
Daniel Shehan [sp] that I had just said something about Bush and
drugs on her show. HE called ME and told me he wanted to send an
investigator, in fact he told me to even help the investigator
because he was new at the job, his name was Wayne Nelson, he is
a very good gentleman, he stayed at my house for 2-days, slept
overnight on my couch, I gave him everything I had. I never told
Daniel Shehan that I had any documents and I never told Wayne
Nelson that I had any documents. In fact what I told Wayne Nel-
son, and I quote, `Wayne, if I did have the documents I couldn't
admit it and I don't know you from Adam, and I don't know Daniel
Shehan from Adam and what makes you think I would give them to
you.' Who am I going to give them to and how quick are they go-
ing to disappear, that was my thought. Wayne Nelson also came to
my house with a stack of documents this thick already substanti-
ating the presence of aliens and extraterrestrial craft on this
planet, and they are keeping it a secret, because they're afraid
somebody'll laugh at them and they'll loose their credibility."
 "We need some patriots in this country, not people trying to
make a name for themselves, trying to expose some drug runners,
because those are just the bag-men. The real crook is in the
White House! And you can tell THAT to Daniel Shehan!"
 "Why didn't Jackie Kennedy report [the source of the lethal
shot]?" asked another audience member.
 "Who's she gonna tell? The Secret Service just killed her hus-
band and they're assigned to protect the President. Also, who
had her children? The same Secret Service had her children at
the time."
 "Wasn't the craft at Roswell, New Mexico destroyed and all the
aliens killed?" another young man asked.
 "All the aliens were dead but the craft was not completely
destroyed, it was severely damaged yes."
 On an unrelated note an older gentleman asked, "Does that mean
that `Alternative-3' is true?"
 "Alternative-3 is absolutely true and so is `Alternative-2'."
Then a man in his late 20's or early 30's raised his hand,
said something I couldn't hear, and was apparently recognized by
 Mr. Cooper who asked him to take the podium and address the aud-
ience.
 "What I said was that I thanked him [Cooper] very much for
coming forward and saying something. A lot of my friends out
here know that I was involved in the United States Special For-
ces, UFO Tracking and Research from the years 1971 to 1975. My
name is Richard Murray, I was based out of the 71st Tac Controll
Flight, McDill Air Force Base, Tampa, Florida. We were `Mobile
Radar Command,' that was combat and war ready. We could be load-
ed on aircraft within an hour and many times were taken into
areas [to] set up radar. A lot of times we were set up around
Egland [sp] Air Force Base because that's where they have the
`Altered Temperature Weather Control', where they can test vari-
ous aircraft for their shrinkage and their dimension change dur-
ing altered temperature. So, you know, I was told to shut up
twice in 1982 and they finally threatened my parents life so I
stayed quiet, and, that's when Wendel Stevens was taken off the
streets... Just like that! And I hid for quite awhile, and deci-
ded to come back out when I heard that you're [Cooper] of such
high rank as you were, and I felt just in saying that your cre-
dentials are true, and that what you have to say, everything
you've said here today, I've heard before behind closed doors.
And you've really tied the link for me to the Kennedy killing.
And there's a few more links that have to go on with the Colum-
bia Cartel and the money laundering. I think there's more than
one cartel involved, and they're shutting one of them down so
one can maintain a power, it just seems to be the way it works."
A muffled question then came from someone in the audience
regarding the person referred to as "Colonel Stevens."
 "Uh, Colonel Stevens is out of jail now," replied Murray who
was quickly asked another question I couldn't hear to which he
answered, "I sure hope to h---l so, he is a wonderful man and I
give him my utmost respect and it was one of the saddest days in
my life to see what happened to him happen to him. But I don't
care what they say about Wendel Stevens, in my heart you can't
discredit that man to me. I don't care who the h--- you are. I
won't listen to it, I don't give a s---- if he was s----in' ba-
bies. You know... that doesn't... he's not that kind of a man, I
don't care what you say, I know him personally."
  The lecture was then essentially over. The "Alternative-2 and
-3" that were referred to briefly are, to the best of my know-
ledge, two government contingency plans and I don't know which
is which, to 1: Declare Martial Law and invalidate the Constitu-
tion on the premise that a terrorist group had entered the coun-
try with a Nuclear weapon with plans to detonate it in a major
city. All dissidents would be rounded up and placed in concen-
tration camps and the press and media would be nationalized. All
this, if the information becomes public before they want it to
or if the aliens attempt a takeover, and 2: Another contingency
plan to contain or delay the release of this information, the
details of which I am probably wrong about anyway.
 My own personal reaction to Milton William Cooper; Mr. Cooper
is a man who appears to be in his late fourties, of medium
height and weight, and was dressed casually when I saw him. His
hairline was receding slightly and he carried himself with con-
fidence and purpose. Bill Cooper, as he was called by several in
attendance, is not a professional speaker. His presentation
lacked the polish of repeated deliveries which all the other
lectures I heard during the Expo. had, but what it lacked in
fine tuning was easily made up for in its content. Weather or
not everyone in the audience was convinced of his sincerity I do
not know, but the thunderous peal of applause which exploded as
he concluded the session spoke for me and the majority of those
in attendance. I am convinced beyond any reasonable doubt that
Bill Cooper believes everything he said, and I'm about as
skeptical as they come.
 Please read the attached file written by Milton William Cooper
which describes some of the government operations, projects, and
code names that pertain to the above transcript. Perhaps from
the two documents you can reach your own conclusions as to what
 "Alternative-2 and -3 are.
 The following is the original file "OPER-MAJ.TXT" which
introduced Mr. Cooper to me.
            OPERATION MAJORITY
            FINAL RELEASE
            THERE WILL BE NO CORRECTIONS TO THIS FILE
            C - COPYRIGHT 1989 BY MILTON WILLIAM COOPER
            ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO QUOTE FROM THIS INFORMATION IN PRESS
RELEASES, PERIODICALS, AND SPEECHES.  INCLUSION IN ANY OTHER
MEDIA REQUIRES MY EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMISSION.
             
 This file contains the absolute true information regarding the
alien presence on earth and the US Government's involvement with
the aliens.  This file contains only the information as I saw it
and only my information.  It does not contain any information
from any other source.
 It was necessary for me to issue the information previous to
this release in a manner which would deceive the Government
until someone was able to independently confirm my identity, my
employment, my service record, my intelligence background, the
identity of the person to which I gave the information in 1972,
his acknowledgment of the information and when it was given to
him, that the information is correct, that I have not seen him
since 1974, and that I have not communicated with him in any
form since 1976.  This was necessary because this file is my
death warrant if MJ-12 continues to operate in a manner
consistent with its history.
 All in the last paragraph has been independently verified by 2
different people who have no connection with each other. I will
only list one for obvious reasons.
Tony Pelham, Journalist
Las Vegas Bullet, (Newspaper)
300 West Boston
Las Vegas, Nevada  89102

Part 6.

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From: "John F. Winston" 
Subject: Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 7.
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 22:46:48 -0800 (PST)

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Subject:  Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.      Part 7    Dec. 6. 1995.

This information is very negative and not recommended for all poeple
but maybe some of it is the truth.
  Here is part 7.
John Winston.

...................................................................
...................................................................

The original information that I first released was not much
MAJI that I was not a threat long enough to have independent
verification of the facts before I risked death. [TRANSMISSION
GARBLED]  I wish to make it absolutely clear that I do not
consider myself a hero.  I believe that most of you would do the
same thing if you knew the truth.  I gave an oath that I would
uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States of
America and I take that oath very seriously.  I am doing no more
--- GEcho 1.02+
-----------------------------------------------------------------
And then he said:
ment technologically, since the end of World War II, has been
due to the exchange of technology which occurs in the area
called `Area-51' on a regular basis ...ongoing."
 "When James Oberth, professor Oberth retired, many of you
don't know who he is ...not too many space people in here. Pro-
fessor Oberth was probably one of the greatest rocket scientists
and space commentists that ever lived. When he retired, the gov-
ernment gave him a special award, there was a press conference,
all kinds of ceremony, and when he got up to speak he said,
-----
`Gentlemen,' and I quote professor Oberth, he said, `Gentlemen,
we cannot take credit for all the technological developments
that we have had in the last decade. We have had help,' and
that's where he stopped."
 "One of the reporters raised his hand and said, `Professor
Oberth, can you tell us what other country helped us?'"
"He said, `It was those little guys from out in space,' and
then he got down and and would not comment any further. Now this
occurred in 1959. I can go on and on but time doesn't allow it."
 "I will tell you ladies and gentlemen that there are all kinds
of things going on all the time, we are making rapid progress in
exposing this. Since I have begun talking, people have been com-
ing out of the woodwork at a rapid rate, who know and have
pieces of this puzzle, and are helping us to put it together,
because I don't have all the answers. I saw an awful lot of ma-
terial, I have remembered an awful lot of it, I have probably,
in my remembering, made some mistakes, and I guarantee you
they're minor ones, if I have."
 "We have just recently, for those of you who didn't believe
that the Jason Society of the Jason Scholars, the secret group
existed, we now have a letter from the Pentagon, with 51 names
of the Jason Scholars, an admission from the Pentagon that they
hold the highest security clearances in the nation, an admission
from the Pentagon that they hold the protocol rank of Rear Ad-
miral, and are treated as such on any military installation or
in any government office. There are 6 Nobel Prize winners on
that list, there are the elite of the elite of the scientific
world, they are the only ones who really know the truth about
the technology today and about the real science of physics, be-
cause the one that we're being taught all the time... If you
send your kids to college to learn physics you're wasting your
money because they're teaching them stuff that doesn't work,
it's not true, it's not real. Gravity is not what we think it
is. There IS a Unified Theory! We already know what it is, it's
what makes these craft work. It's absolutely incredible what's
going on."
 "How many of you keep up with Billy Goodman's show on KVEG out
of Las Vegas? For those of you who don't, I would try tuning in
on any night between 10:00 PM and 1:00 AM. It's 840 on your AM
dial, and the subject every night are those subjects that no
other media person in the United States will touch with a 10-
foot pole, every single night except Saturday night. It's the
only show that you can call in and talk to another caller,
you've got 3-minutes to say whatever you want to say as long as
you don't cuss or swear or slander anyone, and every night
they're helping to expose this."
 "When John Lear and I first said what was going on out at
Groom Lake everybody said, `You're nuts, there's nothing going
on out at Groom Lake!' The listeners of the Billy Goodman radio
show put together an excursion and went up to Groom Lake and
they all, ever since, every night, they go up there and watch
them test fly the alien craft ...every night! The first night
they had 100 people there. And 100 people saw 4 alien craft fly,
doing things that no airplane and no helicopter can do. Now they
don't tell us anymore that there's nothing happening at Groom
Lake. What they tell us now is there's no such thing as aliens,
it's all government secret projects. That's okay because we'll
prove that wrong too eventually, it just takes awhile. Because
where we WERE ...it's not where we're AT, and I'm really happy
about that."
 "Now, if you want to see what's happening right now, keep
watching your movies, keep watching your television commercials,
your alien programs on television, read Whitley Streeper's
`Majestic' which is a part of the contingency plan called `Ma-
jestic' to test the reaction of the population to the presence
of aliens on the Earth. And I have just finished my study of
Whitley Streeper's book `Majestic,' and I'm gonna tell you right
now that most of the documents in there, that he says are fic-
tion, are real documents that came right out of Project Grudge.
 It is part of the government's campaign to leak information out
in ways that they can always deny that it's real. There's only
one thing wrong with the information in that book, the stories
of the characters in there I know nothing about. What I'm talk-
ing about are the supposed government documents that he has in
that book. I'm telling you tonight they're real. Those are some
of the same documents that I saw in Project Grudge back between
1970 & 1973, and where we have wondered before, now we know that
 Whitley Streeper IS working for the government. And we had a
suspicion anyway because in the front of his book he states that
he got information and was helped by the research team of Moore,
Shanderey, and Friedman. William Moore has publicly admitted on
July the 1st that he is an agent of the United States Govern-
ment, and we know that the others are too."

Part 7.

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Subj : Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 8.                                 
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From: "John F. Winston" 
Subject: Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 8.
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Subject: Nr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.   part 8.     Dec. 6, 1995.

This information is very negative but let's it contains some truth.

Here we have part 8.
John Winston.

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 "This is gonna come out, and the reason they're doing it the
way they're doing it is they know eventually you're gonna find
out that it's all true and real. They're desensitizing you so
that you're not shocked, so that there's no collapse of society
as we know it, so that the religious structure doesn't fall to
pieces, so that the stock market doesn't go crazy, because these
were their original fears. Now, there's nothing we can do about
the last one because it's already happened, there will be a seg-
ment of the population that worships the aliens, even though
they're no different than us they're just from somewhere else,
and they may look a little different. They are not gods. But
there are already people worshiping the aliens and they predic-
ted this would happen when they slapped the secret stamp all
over all this stuff."
 "You know, there's really nothing wrong with what's been hap-
pening except for 3 things;" [Cooper forgot to mention the 3rd
thing, or was sidetracked, or included it into the 2nd thing.]
 Number one, when they decided to keep it secret they needed to
finance it, they couldn't tell the public so they couldn't tell
Congress. They decided to finance it with the sale, importation
and sale, of drugs. Now in the documents that I read, in Opera-
tion Majority, it specifically stated that when (edited) was
the president and CEO of Sapata [sp] Oil, he, in conjunction
with the CIA, organized the first large scale drug importation
into this country from South and Central America by fishing
boat, to the offshore oil platforms of Sapata Oil, and then from
there into the beach, thus bypassing all Customs inspections and
law enforcement inspections of any kind. They are still bringing
in drugs, to a limited extent, in this manner. Another manner is
by CIA contract aircraft which, one of their bases of landing is
Homestead [sp] Air Force Base in Florida. We have affidavits
from air controllers who have vectored the planes in, who have
made sure that they're not interfered with in any way. We have
affidavits from personnel at Homestead Air Force Base who say
the planes have been met by Zeb Bush, who's George Bush's son.
 We have affidavits from people who work in the Gulf of Mexico,
in the offshore oil business, that yes indeed, the drugs are
coming in, at least some of them, from the offshore oil plat-
forms."
 From the audience came a clear statement, "Just say no?"
"Pardon? ...Right! Just Say No! Well that's what we're gonna
do ladies and gentlemen with your help ...we are going to say
NO, no more! And you gotta do it, you gotta act. You either
gotta act, or watch your country go down the tubes."
 "Now, that's one of the things that's wrong. The next thing
that's wrong is, to keep the secret, they killed a lot of people
who tried to leak it out. And if I hadn't done it the way that I
did it, you wouldn't be seeing me anywhere standing or walking
on this Earth now. They killed president Kennedy and during the
workshop, for those of you haven't seen the tape, I will show
you, on the tape, who shot the president and why. Between '70
and '73, in Operation Majority it stated verbatim that President
Kennedy ordered MJ-12 to cease the importation and sale of drugs
to the American people, that he ordered them to implement a plan
to reveal the presence of aliens to the American people within
the following year. His assassination was ordered by the policy
committee of the Vilderbergers. MJ-12 implemented the plan and
carried it out in Dallas. It involved agents of the CIA, Divis-
ion-5 of the FBI, the Secret Service, and the office of Naval
Intelligence. President Kennedy was killed by the driver of his
car, his name was William Greer, he used a recoilless, electric-
ally operated, gas-powered assassination pistol that was spe-
cially built by the CIA to assassinate people at close range. It
fired an explosive pellet which injected a large amount of
shellfish poison into the brain, and that is why, in the docu-
ments, it stated that President Kennedy's brain was removed. If
you've studied the case, you will find that indeed his brain
disappeared. The reason for that is so that they would not find
the particles of the exploding pellet or the shellfish poison in
his brain which would have proved conclusively that Lee Harvy
Oswald was NOT the assassin. In fact, Lee Harvy Oswald never
fired a shot, he was the patsy."
 Mr. Cooper paused briefly, and a lady in the audience asked
the obvious question, "Why haven't YOU been assassinated?"
 "If they were to kill me right now, what would you think?"
Cooper posed.
 "That it's the truth," several people chimed.
 "I've got `em right where I want `em. If they touch me,
everyone who's ever heard me talk is gonna be absolutely enraged
and is gonna know that everything I've said is true. As long as
they don't touch me there's gonna be some of you who are always
gonna be wondering. But eventually we're gonna bring enough
proof out, and if you're here during the workshop you're gonna
see an awful lot of it that's gonna prove to you that it's true.
 It's real. And it's happening!"
 "Okay, I've tried to cover a lot of stuff, just briefly, be-
cause there's no time in 45 minutes to get into anything very
much."
 Mr. Cooper then announced the scheduled workshop session the
following day in which tangible proofs could be seen but regret-
tably I was unable to attend. He then opened up the floor to
questions and answers.
 A muffled question was barely heard coming from the front of
the room which in essence asked, "What about all the people in
the press and others who were in Dallas and who saw the assass-
ination? Couldn't they tell where the shot came from, why didn't
they come forward? There must have been plenty."

Part 8.

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Subj : Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 9 of 9.                            
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From: "John F. Winston" 
Subject: Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs.  Part 9 of 9.
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Subject:  Mr. Cooper Talks About UFOs. Part 9 of 9.     Dec. 6, 1995.

   Part 9.

  This is the last of the information that I had about Mr. Cooper.  
It is very negative and not recommended for most people.
John Winston.

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 There was, we know that there was at least 18 who were all
murdered within 2-years of the event. The odds of that happening
are 1 in 300,000 trillion," Cooper replied.
 Again a muffled question, "Why did the DRIVER have to shoot
Kennedy?"
 "Because the other fools missed! There were a total of 3-shots
fired at President Kennedy, one hit him in the throat and didn't
kill him and 2 of them hit John Connelly [sp]. The one that was
fired from the grassy knoll hit the president in the throat. The
other 2-shots came from directly behind the limousine, not the
school book depository building, and hit Governor Connelly. Gov-
ernor Connelly, in intelligence community circles, is known as a
`can do' man, because he took 2-hits and still kept his mouth
shut."
 "How is it that the driver, sitting on the front, left-hand
side of the car was able to blow off the right side of Kennedy's
brain when the bullet actually entered in, and it would have
been virtually impossible..." another person asked.
 Mr. Cooper seized the gist of his question and injected, "For
those of you who have been listening to all these talk show
hosts, whose job it is to be a talk show host, and who have not
done any legitimate research into this, if you come to the work-
shop, I ill show you, on the tape, how it was done. You will
see that Kennedy was, in fact slumped over against Jackie, his
head was turned [this direction], it was very simple, it was
easy and you will see it with your own eyes."
 Another muffled, off-mike question from a member of the audi-
ence inquiring why no one else had come forward with the infor-
mation Mr. Cooper was disseminating, and why those who knew it
had kept it secret for so long was quickly answered, "It hasn't
been, I'm talkin' about it now. Bill English was talkin' about
it 8-years ago but everybody laughed at Bill English. John
 Lear's been talkin' about it for 3-years and everybody laughed
at him. Now there's so many people have been talkin' about it,
people are startin' to listen and it's about time. Because it's
about time we that we quit being fools, and that's exactly what
they think we are and we prove it to them every day."
 Almost all of the questions from the audience were to faint to
hear. The next one dealt with the alien technology and asked in
essence, "Hasn't any one else [other than the government] come
up with the energy technology that the aliens have?" to which
Mr. Cooper answered, "There's been quite a few people who've
come up with it and they've ALL been stopped, and they'll all
continue to be stopped. Because once you have it you have FREE
ENERGY. Once you have free energy they no longer have power over
you. You understand? That's why they stop it."
 Another question asking, "In the film of the assassination
which was examined greatly by experts, why didn't THEY conclude
that Kennedy's driver shot him?", to which Cooper asked, "Exam-
ined by WHO greatly?", and continued, "Most of the film that you
can purchase has that segment cut out, and you can always tell
it by the person running in the background, they'll run up to
here... all of a sudden they'll be down here... running. You
will see in most of the clips that you've ever seen on televi-
sion, or in the movies, or that you're able to get your hands
on, you'll see William Geer start to turn like this...", then a
muffled comment from the audience, then Cooper answered, "That's
because they clipped it out! And on a lot of them, I'll bet you
most of you, every time you've seen the clip on television,
never looked at the driver anyway. If you're really honest with
yourself, and with me, you know your eyes were right on
Kennedy."
 A woman asked if any of the alien technology was being used in
present-day military equipment and was answered, "Yes, there's a

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JW  That's all I recorded and it ended in mid sentence.

The End. Part 9 of 9.

John Winston.  johnfwin@mlode.com



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