From: bobworn@aol.com
Subject: Sniveling, Lying ABC Does It Again.....Vote Fraud
Date: 16 Nov 2000 23:38:12 -0500
To: BOBWORN@aol.com

 From:  g24fg@ajc.com

If you think for one moment that we will allow
that Communist traitor and coward Gore to steal
this election, think again. We promise you a Revolution
should this occur....and if the coke snorting traitor
and yellow bellied coward Clinton thinks this will
allow him to stay in office, over our 80 Million
Dead Bodies.........never, never will this be allowed.

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Subject: ABC News Tampers with Electoral College in Colorado
Date: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:07 AM


ABC News has called the eight members of the Electoral college 
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ABC News told each elector that although Colorado State law must
vote for Bush (since Bush won the election in Colorado) that WAS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THAT THEY COULD VOTE FOR GORE! 

One Elector was so incredulous that she checked her Caller ID and
verified that the call WAS from ABC News!!!!!!

If you still think that the Main Stream Media is "UNBIASED", think
again. they are SO BIASED that they reek of corruption and filth. 
I hope that you "consider the source" when you hear anything from ABC
News, or NBC News, or CBS News, or FOX News, or MSNBC News (or anyone
in the Main Stream Media)

     This is Voter Fraud - it's Unconstitutional and it's ILLEGAL!
We, the people, want ABC charged and prosecuted, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Subject: Hand recounts: 'How Democrats steal elections'
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 6:51 PM

"What's happening in Florida is exactly the game plan laid out
to me by an attorney who represented the Democrats in a recount
in California [in 1982] where they stole a seat from us."
-- former Republican California Assemblyman



'How Democrats steal elections'
Veterans of hand recounts describe
techniques used to change outcome


The manual vote recounts being insisted on by
Democratic operatives in Palm Beach County, Fla., have
been used for over 20 years to steal elections from
Republicans, claim several GOP veterans of hand-recount
election-upsets.

According to Bob Haueter, chief of staff to the
California Assembly Republican Caucus, and an expert on
manual recounts, a Democrat lawyer intimately involved
in "stealing" elections from Republicans through hand
recounts admitted to the process and even shared the
techniques involved.

After Tuesday's vote and an automatic recount still
left GOP nominee George W. Bush ahead by a slim
288-vote margin, Palm Beach elections officials decided
that a manual recount of all 425,000 votes should be
undertaken.

"What's happening in Florida is exactly the game plan
laid out to me by an attorney who represented the
Democrats in a recount in California where they stole a
seat from us," former California Assemblyman Pat Nolan
told WorldNetDaily.

A staunch conservative legislator, Nolan served in the
California Assembly from 1978 until 1994, when he was
convicted, along with several other lawmakers, in a
federal corruption probe. After spending a little over
two years in federal prison, he emerged to become
president of Justice Fellowship, the public policy arm
of Watergate figure Chuck Colson's Prison Fellowship
Ministries. For the past four years, Nolan has worked
with Colson -- another fallen-but-reformed public
figure -- to reform the criminal justice system.

Regarding the 1980 California Assembly race between
Republican Adrian Fondse and Democrat Pat Johnston,
Nolan recalled that the Republican won "by about 54
votes or so."

But after the election, Democrats "brought in their
junkyard dog lawyers from around the country," said
Nolan, "and basically harassed the local registrar --
got in their faces and demanded to handle ballots" --
which were of the same type now in dispute in Palm
Beach.

The same issue of "hanging chads -- the little squares
in the punch cards -- was also an issue in Stockton,"
says Nolan. The Democrats' strategy, he says, was to
handle them as often as possible -- perhaps bending,
crinkling or otherwise altering them -- so that
additional chads become displaced, thereby
disqualifying the ballot.

The result? In the Stockton election, Nolan said
Democrats were successful in getting the vote count
reversed from a plus-54 win by Republicans to a
minus-17 loss.

"I vowed that I'd never let that happen again," Nolan
said. "So I asked my staff to track down the lawyer
that headed up the team for the Democrats."

Haueter was, at that time, chief of staff for Nolan,
and it was he who first contacted attorney Tim Downs,
who readily admitted the Democratic strategy and even
described the tactics to Nolan.

"When I first called him and explained to him who I was
and why I was calling, he chuckled and said, 'I
wondered when you guys would get around to calling
me,'" Haueter said, adding that Downs told him --
"'I've taken several seats from you across the United
States.'"

"Downs told me, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, 'You get me
within 100 votes and I can steal any election,'"
Haueter told WorldNetDaily.

Nolan subsequently hired Downs and "brought him out to
train my staff in the techniques they [Democrats] were
using" so they could protect themselves against future
election-fraud victimization, Nolan said.

Nolan and Haueter said Downs described three basic
tactics:

·    "The first rule is, you keep counting until you're
ahead. And if that doesn't put you ahead, you recount,
re-recount -- you keep counting until you're ahead. If
you're behind, then you've got nothing to lose."

·    Second, Nolan said, "the more times those ballots
are handled, the more chance there is that chads will
break loose" and hence disqualify the ballot.

·    Third, he said, "the minute you're ahead, you stop
and declare yourself the victor."

"After that, you don't want the ballots handled any
more," Nolan said, "because some of the chads for your
candidate might break loose. While you're behind it
doesn't matter, but if you're ahead and more break off
or become disqualified for your candidate, that's a bad
thing."

A favorite tactic, said Nolan, is to ask election
officials for ballots, "allegedly so they can look at
it more closely." When operatives do, often they will
bend or crinkle ballots covertly in an effort to break
another chad loose and thus have the ballot thrown out.

"This whole process sounds like exactly what is going
on in Florida," Nolan said. "And the more times those
ballots are handled, the more chances are you'll break
some of them [chads] loose."

Nolan referred to Fox News' Tony Snow's weekend
interview with Bush campaign representative and former
Secretary of State James Baker, in which he asked Baker
why -- after each time election officials run ballots
through mechanical vote-tally machines -- there have
been more votes counted or taken away from both
candidates.

"Baker didn't have an answer to that," Nolan said. "But
the answer is, because they've handled those ballots
more times, breaking loose more of those chads" --
those that perhaps weren't completely punched through.

"The tactics fit what [Downs] told me back in 1982 and
1983," Nolan said, who added that he didn't know who
Downs may have worked with using these tactics
recently.

WorldNetDaily attempted to reach Downs by phone on
Sunday, but was unsuccessful.

Following a mechanical recount over the weekend, Palm
Beach election officials awarded an additional 36 votes
to Gore, while Bush lost three.

"A hand count of four selected precincts turned up
enough additional votes for Gore to prompt the
Democratic majority on the county election commission
to order the hand recount in all 531 precincts," the
Associated Press reported.

Republicans, news accounts said, lodged "strenuous
protests" and pledged to file a lawsuit halting yet
another recount of Palm Beach votes. That hearing is
scheduled for today.

Reports said nearly 30,000 ballots have already been
rejected in Palm Beach County because they had two or
more holes punched for president, or because computers
could not detect any holes at all. Ballots with two
votes also are rejected in hand counts.

Corroborating Haueter's and Nolan's account is a
parallel story by Los Angeles-area political strategist
Arnold Steinberg. In a National Review.com piece titled
"Beware of Hanging Chads," Steinberg asks, "Do you know
what two words will determine the Presidential
election?" The chilling answer, he said: "Hanging
chads."

Steinberg, describing a 1980 congressional race between
long-time incumbent, Democrat James C. Corman, and
Steinberg's client, Republican challenger Bobbi
Fiedler, recalls how after Fiedler's upset victory --
by a slim margin -- over the heavily favored Corman,
the Democrats called for a hand recount.

"Democratic Party lawyers and recount specialists
descended on the county registrar's office," says
Steinberg. "Each recount station had a government
employee to do the counting, flanked by one Democratic
and one Republican observer.

"The Democrats' agenda was, of course, to change the
election result, and they went about it systematically.
At their urging, the recounting began with Corman's
strongest precincts, Fiedler's weakest. Their intention
was to recount ballots in those areas until the
election outcome was reversed, and then stop the
recount. Similarly, today in Florida, the Gore people
are demanding hand recounts in their favored counties,
where they would be most likely to gain."

Just as important as the order in which the precincts
are recounted, however, is outright ballot tampering,
says Steinberg.

"Their hired guns tried lots of tricks on Corman's
behalf, but what I remember most was the hanging chads.
A chad is the perforated square (or circle) on the
ballot that a voter depresses with a pin to indicate
his preferred candidate. The chad hangs from the ballot
if the voter didn't fully depress it -- for instance,
if an older person did not press firmly enough. This
matters because voter machines usually are not able to
tabulate cards with hanging chads.

"It often comes down to interpreting the voter's
intention. Does the chad hang 'strongly' -- i.e,
detached only a little -- meaning that it is a mistake
that should not be counted? Or does it hang loosely --
i.e., mostly detached -- as an intended vote would be?

"What my lawyers soon discovered was that the
opposition would eyeball a disputed ballot before
picking it up to officially inspect it. If the hanging
chad indicated a vote for Fiedler, the lawyer for the
other side picked up the ballot ever so carefully, so
he could argue that the voter really never intended to
vote for Fiedler. If the hanging chad was a Corman
vote, the lawyer picked up the ballot quite vigorously,
so that the chad soon was no longer hanging.

"'You see,' their guy would declare, 'that voter
obviously intended to vote for Corman.'"

Luckily, says Steinberg, "it didn't take long to figure
out all the opposition's tricks. I added more lawyers,
more observers, and the bad guys eventually caved.
Bobbi Fiedler's victory was preserved. But it was a
nasty business."

Echoing Nolan's and Haueter's experience with
manual-vote recounts, Steinberg says, "The more things
change, the more they stay the same."

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Source:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_fosterj_news/
20001114_xnfoj_experts_ha.shtml

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