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Alex Collier on 'The Next Dimension'

October 10 1998

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Patte: Hi, this is Patte Purcell welcome to the Next Dimension Out of this
world talk radio on talk America, tonight my guest is Alex Collier, the
author of 'Defending Sacred Ground' the Andromedan compendium, Alex had a
very unique experience in that he has been in direct contact with the
Andromedan extra terrestrials for over 20 years. Good evening Alex are you
there?

Alex: Yes Patte I am, hi.

Patte: Hi how are you

Alex: I'm great.

Patte: Were going to be discussing some very interesting aspects of your
contact with the andromedans tonight including extra terrestrial existence,
time travel, underground bases, and the world as a hologram, and I know that
you will be enlightening our listeners as to a lot of these areas, we do
have a quick break that we have to go to and when we come back we will start
with Alex, and for all of those who would like to contact him your new web
site is www.lettersfromandromeda.com, is that right?

Alex: That is correct

Patte:Okay, is there a number that they can call to receive more
information if they like or get a copy of your book?

Alex: Yes there is, its 303-215-1923.

Patte: Okay we will be back in a moment if you have questions for Alex were
at a 1-888-22TALK and we will be discussing Alex's direct contact with the
Andromedan extra terrestrials when we get back.

[Break]



Patte: Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next dimension out of
this world talk radio on talk America my guest is Alex Collier author of
Defending Sacred Ground, the Andromedan Compendium. Alex, Why don't you just
go ahead and tell us about how you were first contacted by the Andromedans.

Alex: I was 8 years old it was in the northern peninsula of Michigan, and
it was a family picnic, and it was in the middle of the afternoon, and I
experienced what would be considered classic missing time, and basically I
was beamed on board a space craft and when I woke up I was lying on a table
and I was being given an exam by two beings, two men, one was very tall,
with light blue skin, with no hair, and the other was a very small man, pale
white and they introduced themselves, and what was amazing was that I had
absolute instant recognition to them.

Patte: Really

Alex: Yeah, it was like I absolutely know them. You know how when you meet
somebody you just know you know them?, it was like that they spoke to me
telepathically, very much like we're talking now, except there were no
words, they didn't move their lips, but I heard them just as clear as your
hearing me, and some of your listeners, it just, the whole thing evolved,
from there, that first time they showed me who I was, my relationship to
them and basically the experience began that moment.

Patte: Now you were eight years old at that time when you said that you
were beamed on board, were you taken up in some tractor beam, or do you
recall that portion of it.

Alex: Well, it, you know, its not exactly a tractor beam, no I did not
recall the first time how I got on board, but, you know, obviously since
then I've learnt how it works. Essentially what it is, you know the laser
pointer that you use on a board during a lecture?, its a blue light and its
literally that thin, and what happens is the minute it scans and touches
your body, it breaks down all of your atoms, and your atoms travel up this
beam light as if it was optical fibre, on board the craft

Patte: Wow!

Alex: Once your there you assimilate back into your original form and there
you are [laughing]

Patte: and there you are

Alex: and there you are.

Patte: Go ahead, when you said that they showed who you were, how did they
show that to you

Alex: Well while we are sitting on the table Patte, they, put this little
cap on my head and it looked, like a yarmulke. It was some kind of a metal,
alloy, except it had a hole in the centre, and immediately, Moraney had this
little clicker in his hands, and on the walls were there were no monitors,
tv's, there was just nothing but bare wall suddenly, monitors, and the
things began to appear, on the wall like out of thin air, and, the monitors
had images, they were literally showing movies, some were monitoring my
physicality, for which I think was more for them then it was for me. The
screen, that was very much like a television screen but it was liquid, it
its made of a liquid, its like our television but its liquid, and because
its liquid, it gives a complete, 3d dimension, its almost as if you could
jump into, the screen and be, there, that's how real it is. I saw all these
scenes, and as Im watching these scenes in front of me, Im getting totally
emotionally involved, and by the time it was over I absolutely had total
recognition, that what I had just seen, was me, that I had seen specific
events, that were past life experiences for me, now this whole process,
seemed like it was 15 minutes, but later, I was told that it was the
equivalent of 4 hours I had been watching all of this.

Patte: You mentioned the name Moraney, was that the taller one or the
shorter one?

Alex: Moraney is the taller one, Vasais is the shorter one.

Patte: Vasais, okay. now you said that you had this instant recognition of
them and that you knew who they were, did they show you their inner relation
with them

Alex: No it did not

Patte: Okay how did you recognize the fact that you, you knew them or had
this contact with them, was this just telepathic knowing or?

Alex: No no no, on a soul level the recognition is there, that's how most
of us have deja vous.

Patte: Okay

Alex: Because the soul recognizes someone's energy. You know, when you meet
somebody that you meet for the first time, or you think you've met them for
the first time, and you have this instant recognition, this instant liking,
it is your soul acknowledging the fact that it knows the vibration of the
person you've just met. Okay and our conscious and our subconscious, our
conscious mind doesn't know that because its here in real time, we're in the
moment, where your subconscious doesn't know time. It doesn't know time at
all, it records things, and blends things all at once, whether its a present
life or a past life. Through my conversations with them, afterwards and the
continuous teachings, I came to learn, when they were here 62,000 years ago,
and this was at a point on our planet when, there had been a huge, family
feud, more or less, to say, between the family of Enki, and the family of
Enlil, the Nibiru tribe, that was here that Zacheria Stitchen refers to and
talks about. The Enlil tribe had left for a while, and the Enki tribe or the
Enki family, more or less was in control of the planet, for a short time and
they opened it up to all the other different races. In other words they
tried making it a showcase, because its so diverse, or our planet used to be
so diverse, with so many different altitudes, and geological formations and
life forms, I mean its just as splendid place, and, the Andromedans were
invited here and they had a colony, a small colony, here for approximately
62 years, between 62-65 years, and they were at that time.

Patte: Okay, Alex, we do have to a quick break, but we'll be back in a
couple of minute, and we're speaking with Alex Collier, if you have a
question we're at, 1-888-822TALK.

[Commercial Break]



Patte: Hi, this is Patte Purcell, welcome back to 'The Next Dimension' out
of this world talk radio, my guest is Alex Collier. Alex, we were discussing
your first visit with the Andromedans, how often are you in contact with
them?

Alex: Well Patte, there's no pattern, you know it could be several times a
week, and then it could be, once a month, it could go once six months, once
eight months, there was a period of 10 years I didn't hear from them at all.
So there's no pattern.

Patte: Do they always take you onboard?.

Alex: No no, not always, sometimes its strictly telepathic, I prefer to go
onboard, because its always nice to get away from gravity here, and just to
be in their space, you know earth can really grind you down. [both laugh]

Patte: We all know that. What's the ship like, tell us what the ship is
like.

Alex: Its really no frills. The scout craft that usually comes is
approximately 30 ft in diameter, its weird, their bigger on the inside then
they are on the outside. They've explained it to me once, but I absolutely
don't understand it how it is that way. It has 3 floors, 3 levels, the
middle level would be considered the cockpit, the control room, the
navigational computers, there not like our computers, by any stretch. A lot
of things are liquid, a lot of the gauges and things like that can just
disappear. The cock floor would be more or less, a lounge area, a resting
area, and the first floor which would be the bottom floor, is an area where
they load cargo, they take samples, they have a laboratory, where they take
samples and they put them in storage, in a way, some kind of a cryogenic
freeze, its also where they develop there holographic pictures that they
take of, different planets, stars, and things they are exploring, and
researching, and all the ships are like that, there virtually all identical,
with the exception of the mother ships, the motherboards are just these huge
versions, of the smaller craft, except they are literally, floating cities.

Patte: Are they floating around our earth, or are they far away from us?

Alex: No there's a lot of activity in our solar system right now, and there
always has been, its just that as our technology gets better we're seeing
more and more.

Patte: So they've always been here basically?

Alex: Yeah we've always been watched

Patte: Are they hiding behind the clouds like I've heard?

Alex: I wouldn't say hiding behind the clouds, you know, some people would
call it cloak, some people would call it stealth, all they have to do is
raise the vibration, of their craft 7 octaves, and they literally disappear
from us even they're right there. Patte : So who exactly are the
Andromedans? where are they from?, and what's there purpose here?

Alex: Well, they're an extension of an ancient Lyran colony. Most of the
human race in our galaxy, and I need to differentiate this, and explain this
because so many people, when they are talking about space, they say - "well
our universe, we're the only planet in the universe, and there's no other
life in the universe." You know, the universe has 100 trillion galaxies, we
live in a galaxy, that's where we have a central sun, and we have all the
other stars and planets and planetary systems, and star constellations, that
rotate around it.. That is a galaxy, that is not a universe, and you know,
so many people get that wrong, that when I'm talking about the galaxy,
they'll say well does he mean the universe? and I don't. The universe is so
big that no  one has found the end of it yet.. [laughing] Okay, no ones
found the end of it. They, our colony or were a colony that came out of
Lyra. Now, apparently the human race was first seeded or colonized, in the
ancient Vega system that we know of as Lyra. Now the human race did not
originate there. To date, at least from the Andromedans, they do not know
exactly where the human race came from, you know, what we know ourselves to
be.

Patte: Okay, Alex, we have to go to news real quick, but we'll be back in a
few minutes, and we'll be discussing, more about the Andromedans and Alex
Collier author of 'defending sacred ground' we'll be back in a moment.

[commercial break]

Patte: Hi, this is Patte Purcell, welcome back to the 'Next Dimension' out
of this world talk radio, my guest is Alex Collier. Alex we've gotten
through some of the basics, lets talk about what their message is, and why
have they contacted you?

Alex: Well Patte, I'm not the only one

Patte: Okay

Alex: There are three others. My understanding is that there's going to be
a long more and, since I've been on a couple of radio shows I've been
getting some information back that there are other people. One of these
contactees down in South America has actually contacted us, and we're
starting to communicate and we're going to start sharing some more stories.
When they were here 62,000 years ago they were forced to leave, not only
them but many other colonial races that were here, that had been invited
here, and I was killed before I could leave, so, they basically came back to
say hi, to touch base, and, to help, their message in a nutshell, has been
you have been manipulated, for a very very long time, you have incredible
potential, more of you would not even be able to understand your potential.
Now there referring to us here on earth, we want you to know that on a
genetic level you are considered royalty,

Patte: Wow

Alex: Whatever you put your minds to, you can accomplish. But it will
involve taking full responsibility and having mutual respect for each other.
In a nutshell that's their message. I once asked them what our future was
going to be, their response was really quite profound. You know, that is
just not an easy thing to answer. There message has been primarily to try to
educate.

Patte: Okay

Alex: They're not ones to sugar coat it, you know Patte, I've heard so
much, so many people talking about love and light, that everythings okay,
and that its gonna be okay, and that's never been their message. There
message is there are a lot of problems here and a lot of the problems you
have not caused, but you are propagating, generation after generation
because you are not aware of the history behind world events, and your race.
In their opinion, we as a race are, definitely suffering from an identity
crisis. You know, we do not know who we are, where we're going, how we got
here, why we're here, and its obvious we have not learnt from the past
because, we're continuing to create a lot of what's been in our past. As far
as wars and so on and so forth..

Patte: You said that we've been manipulated, is this part of this
manipulation is to keep us in this kind of chaotic state?

Alex: Yes because there was a time, where we united as a race, I mean there
have been several times, but the very last time, was during the time that
Nibiru was here, and Mr Stitchen talks about this in his books, the earth
chronicles, and they're not an easy read, but I would suggest everybody read
them, try to get through it.

Patte: and this was Nibiru?

Alex: Nibiru, yes, we united because we were slaves, to a group of
extraterrestrial races that were here and we were treated like slaves, as
long as we did what we were told, we were fed, we were given water, things
remained relatively calm, but the minute we didn't behave, the truth is they
slaughtered us like we were cattle. They thought nothing of it, and we
rebelled, several times, and you know, in history the bible refers to 'let
us confound them and change their languages '

Patte: Okay, Alex, I'm sorry we'll have to take a quick break we'll be
right back

Alex: Okay Patte.

[Commercial break]

Patte: This is Patte Purcell, welcome to the next dimension out of this
world talk radio, my guest is Alex Collier. Alex you said that we're being
manipulated, who is doing the manipulation?

Alex: Well Patte there are several groups of extraterrestrial races, that
have been here, and you know come back and forth, let me just say that there
is a hierarchy and it primarily stems out of Orion, Sirius B. Then there
have been those lone groups, such as the Dow, which the people here on earth
here call the grays, and there have also been reptilian races, there have
been some from Betelgeuse, that have also visited, and have been
manipulating us, even Nibiru manipulated us. Again let me go back to set
this up, let me try to explain who I have been taught by the Andromedans we
are, okay?

Patte: Okay

Alex: Now, we talked about the genetics and I'm gonna get to that, in a
second, but I first wanna tell everybody, folks, whether you want to believe
this or not, whether you think I'm crazy, or not, it doesn't matter, but the
reality is, that everyone of you has a soul, okay, a consciousness that
lives forever, that records, and its purpose is to experience life, which
ever life you choose to evolve, to discover who you are to become all that
you can be. None of you, including myself, none of us as souls on this
planet were born and hatched here, we all come from some other place, some
other realm, some other dimension, that's just the reality of it, and
whether your a Christian, your a Buddhist, your a Jew, your a Moslem is
doesn't change anything. The reality is all of you as a soul come from some
place else. Now, for some reason, a very large group of us, as souls, choose
to incarnate into this physically which we know ourselves as earth beings,
or Terrans as we're known outside, at least off planets, now because of so
many extraterrestrial in the last, 22 million years, visiting our planet,
coming here, staying here, you know this was an outpost, its where we're the
furthest end of our galaxy. It was an outpost, we are along a trading route,
that moves just outside our solar system, that many very very advanced races
use, and have used in the past, that moves just outside out of our solar
system, to leave our galaxy to go to other galaxies, and yes there are races
that can do this, they would stop here for whatever reason, this is why we
have, so much life, so much diversity, its because much of the life that is
on our planet, was brought here by other races. This is why in the fossil
records they have discovered, so many extinct animals and other plant life
that are fully formed, okay. This notion that everything evolved from a
single cell is rubbish. I want you to know that, it is rubbish, it will
never be proven, they teach it as proof but it isn't, okay its just not
true, but its all part of the programming to keep us thinking small. Now,
because of all the interaction earth has had with so many different races,
there have been, races, extraterrestrials that have been left behind, there
have other also, any many of them are human races, there are also many human
races, extraterrestrial races that are human that have come here and
co-mingled, with our race, both in the past and I'm told, even in the
present. This does go on, this occurs for example with the grays, there are
people folks, especially women who know they have been implanted, have bared
children, the seed has been put inside of them, and they get to three of
four months and suddenly the pregnancy is terminated, and the baby is gone,
there are other stories of women being taken on board where they've met
their children, with extraterrestrials, so you see, so much has gone on with
extra terrestrials. According to the Andromedans, we as as race, I'm now
taking about all of us on planet earth, are the sum total of 22 different
extraterrestrial races.

Patte: [makes noise of astonishment]

Alex: Okay?.

Patte: that's incredible-

Alex: and they say that we are royalty. Because of this, that we're the
only ones, in our galaxy like this, the ONLY ones.

Patte: Wow, this is kind of like a living library huh?

Alex: Exactly! and I think somebody's actually said that before, I think it
was -either, Barbara Marziniak[sp?].

Patte: Yes

Alex: But nobody wants to hear it. [both chuckle] Nobody wants to hear it,
they want to just stay in their 9 to 5, watch football drink beer and I'm
like- GOD we're never gonna evolve like this.

Patte: This is a very important time though isn't it?

Alex: Yes ma'am, it is, the bubble is bursting and its gonna be a very wild
ride Patte, things are radically changing, some things for the better and
some definitely for the worst, you know this is a very dangerous time, for
all of us on the planet, because our governments are completely
irresponsible and the people that are running it, you know, political
leaders, they're not really in charge. They're really not, but you know
there's an agenda, to lower the population of the planet and there setting
everything up to do that.

Patte: Okay, Alex we do have to take another quick break, and we'll be back
to discuss a little more about this, lowering of the population, and what's
going with the government. We'll be back in a moment with Alex Collier -
defending sacred ground.

[commercial break]

Patte: Welcome back to the Next dimension, out of this world talk radio on
talk America, my guest is Alex Collier author of defending sacred ground.
Alex if we are in fact, the kind of experiment of the universe, that all of
these, different extraterrestrials, have kind of seeded our planet why are
they now trying to lower our population?

Alex: Well Patte, its not exactly like that, its not all of them that are
trying to do it, and we didn't start out to be an experiment, you know we
were, way in the brunnies and at the end of the galaxy, and I guess you
could say that many races were very irresponsible about some of their
actions when they were here. They would just get in their ships and they
would leave, and just either go home or continue on with their mission or
their scientific expedition, whatever it was they were doing, and didn't
give us a second thought, but what happened was, something happened to our
DNA and suddenly within 2000 years, we go from, these barbarians to being
able to create space flight, we've evolved very very quickly, and this has
actually scared some races, it is primarily and I will use this term often,
regressive races that simply do not want to see us evolve, and to take our
rightful place in the galactic family. Because part of our dna, has to do
with the primate race, going way way way way back and there are some
extraterrestrial races, and their not necessarily human, who see us as
beasts. They resent the fact that we have the abilities that we have, that
we can evolve so quickly and their doing everything they can to hold us
back, and they have been for a very very long time

Patte: Are these like the Orions and the ...

Alex: Yes ma'am, there are groups from Orion, from Ursa major, Ursa minor,
Betelgeuse, Sirius B, that you know, absolutely do not want to see us
evolve, they absolutely do not. They would prefer that we just stay right
here, and we just stay out of the way. You know this is a very complicated
subject and if you wanna go down that road, we can do that, or if you want
to explore other things and maybe go back to that, we can do it. But you
know Patte, for 10 years I have been speaking publicly and I just keep
saying this over and over again, ladies and gentleman we are so awesome. We
truly are, we just have to believe in ourselves and we have to start putting
all of our petty differences aside, and start working as a race. Now that
doesn't mean giving up freedom, it doesn't mean giving up your individual
liberties and it doesn't mean having to screw someone over for money or
power, it means literally learning to work together, so we can all evolve
together.

Patte: Now you were saying - I would like to go on that thing because this
is a very positive show- you were saying that you know, we talk about love
and light, not really so much that, so how do we draw ourselves together as
a group in something positive? Ooops I guess we have to go to the news
break.

Alex: that sounds great!

Patte: I know they do, that's the only frustrating thought but -

Alex: Hold that thought

Patte: Hold that thought when we go to the news and when we come back we
will discuss about what we can do to draw up ourselves together and to come
up to the potential that we have and that we really are- we'll back in a
moment, with Alex Collier author of defending sacred ground

Alex: okay

[commercial break]

Patte: Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next dimension on talk
America and live on the internet, listeners you can listen at
http://www.spiritnetwork.com/nextdimension all one word. My guest this hour
and the next hour for the rest of the night is Alex Collier the author of 'd
efending sacred ground' the Andromedan compendium. We do have a caller right
now, Ed in texas who is listening on the internet who has a question us, go
ahead Ed.

Ed: Oh hi Patte, how are you this morning?

Patte: Fine,how are you?

Ed: good. Hi Alex how are you tonight, this morning?

Alex: I'm going well, how come your not sleeping [laughs]

Ed: I stayed up for you Alex

Alex: I'm honoured

Ed: I had to do it, first of all, I've read your book, defending sacred
ground, excellent, excellent piece of work I do have some questions, and I
don't want to jump ahead of what your talking about but I would like you to
comment on the Andromedans being very -what's the word I want to use -
amazed at the things we have, that we project from ourselves and our
holographic 3d reality you know like our little knicknacks and everything
else like that

Alex: Aha, mean why we put so much energy into those things?

Ed: Yes

Alex: You know - okay that's a great question, is there time to answer the
question?

Patte: You know, actually we do have to take our top of the hour break, I
mean I'm sorry but we will get back, we wanted to get that question out
before we went to break, but we'll be back in a moment with Alex and Ed from
Texas and I'll be answering that question as soon as we come back from break

[Commercial break]

Patte: Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next dimension out of
this world talk radio on talk America and live on the internet. My guest is
Alex Collier and we just had a question from ed from texas about what the
Andromedans think about all of our preoccupation as i would guess would be
materialism and stuff is that correct?

Ed: more or less, it has to do with how we use a lot of our energy

Alex: okay, they do not understand why we do not really want to know about
our past, they don't understand why we do not practice or want to explore
voluntary introspection. [feedback then loss of signal for 3 minutes] How
are we going to as a race stand and create something that benefits
everybody?, that fulfils the needs of the many or are we going to continue
to play this game where the needs of the few are fulfilled and everybody
else suffers.

Ed: right

Alex: you know, what were creating isn't working and they do not understand
why we don't see it, or why we don't change it or why we don't honestly look
at ourselves, and our past, and that what we're creating for our future and
fix it, they don't understand why we don't take responsibility for it, that
we want somebody else to fix it for us and I once asked Vasais about our
future, because I'm worried, I am really worried and this is the answer he
gave me 'responsible freedom of self determination becoming truly self
confident and free to unconditionally be responsible for oneself' and heres
the key phrase 'without being coerced to accept some higher authority.' And
that's an individual decision by each one of us to be that way, to be fully
responsible, you know, and so many people just don't want to take
responsibility

Ed: I've been trying to walk my talk and I'm beating my head against the
wall talking to people about things, you know where I'm coming from with
that

Alex: yeah well you know the educational system has successfully made sure
that there are very few critical thinkers

Ed: they disempowered generations?

Alex: yeah, and um you know, we're in trouble, we're in trouble.

Patte: How do you suggest we band together?, is this going to be done
individually and each person develops their own sovereignty and therefore it
just kind of does the 100th monkey theory?

Alex: Patte, that's only part of it, its gonna have to be a grass roots
level, in other words you know, let me just put it to you this way and I
will deal specifically with the United States of America. We are extremely
vulnerable now.. Our Governments totally corrupt, it doesn't give a damn
about us, its been run by corporations, its been run by men and
extraterrestrial that live underground that don't give a damn about us,
we're just considered a natural resource and we are extremely vulnerable in
the next six months to nuclear terrorism, biological terrorism and the only
way America is going to be saved is by the people, the people are going to
have to save the united states it isn't going to be the government, there
block and paid for that's just the way it is, and everybody knows it, but
very few people want to stand up, take responsibility and say, look we need
to get rid of everybody there and start over, that's just the way it is.
Nobody wants to do it, and this is where we become a country of gossip. We
talk about it but nobody does anything. Nobodies willing to stand up and
take the heat. And fewer others are willing to stand behind them and really
take the heat, to make the changes, they just want to continue to go on
thinking that its going to work itself out and fix itself, and it isn't
gonna happen.

Patte: When you said to get rid of everybody how do--?

Alex: We fire them Patte!.

Patte: Fire them.

Alex: Yes ma'am. You know this thing will Bill Clinton and I know we're
kinda getting off this is an issue I want to talk about. This thing with
Monica Lewinsky

Patte: Yes

Alex: You know this is not really the issue, yeah, sure he lied, he commit
perjury and he probably obstructed justice but this is not the issue, I'll
tell you what the real issue is, and its treason. The real issue is treason,
okay, Lorell space corporation, gave the Chinese top secret technology for
guidance missile systems, okay, and the reason he got a waiver to do it
because he gave Bill Clinton a lot of campaign contributions, and he was the
largest donator to the democratic party, he got a special waiver which gave
the Chinese the guidance missile technology they needed for their nuclear
missiles, so now they'll hit their targets where before they couldn't even
get them off the ground. Okay and where are those nuclear missiles targeted?
their pointed at us

Patte: Us

Alex: Their pointed at us Patte, their pointed us and we gave them the
technology for money.

Patte: This is what the whole thing is about.

Alex: That's what the whole thing is really all about

Patte: Okay

Alex: That's what its about

Patte: We do have to take a quick break here [laughing] but we will be back
and we have a caller holding from Vegas as well.

Alex: : Thanks Ed if your still there

Patte: Okay thank you Ed very much for calling in.. Be back in a moment.

[commercial break]

Patte: Hi, this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the Next Dimension, out of
this world talk radio, my guest is Alex Collier author of defending sacred
ground. Alex we have another call, from Christina in Vegas who very much
would like to ask you a question. Christina are you there?

Christina: Yes I am here. Hi Alex

Alex: Hi Christina

Christina: How are you?

Alex: I'm good

Christina: All right, first of all I hope they sold them the Titan missile
guidance system, you know, the one that cracks up that we can't even get up
there, but lets face it we're not honourable as Americans when we sell
technology

Alex: I agree

Christina: We probably sold them something cracked anyway. Getting onto
something a little different. Now the two people that you are telepathically
in contact with have they mentioned anything about the solar flares the
gamma rays, harbringers of things to come, was there anything in particular
about what's going out in our galaxy that we need to be aware of?

Alex: Well there's a lot going on in the galaxy but lets just talk about
our sun for a moment. I know that there's all kinds of people saying all
kinds of things, Ed dames, where the planets gonna be fried and all this
stuff

Christina: aha

Alex: It just isn't going to happen. According to the Andromedans,
something that occurs on a fairly regular basis, throughout the galaxy, is
that, stars, pole shift. Okay, even planets pole shift, where they will
rotate on their axis, apparently our sun electromagnetic field has just
finished a pole shift and the electromagnetic field of the sun has not set
itself, in other words its flipping back and forth which is causing a lot of
flare activity and the Andromedans have said that if it doesn't balance
itself out in the next 85 to 93 days that they are going to intervene to do
this they are going to balance the magnetic field

Christian: Great that there's somebody out there watching us.

Alex: Yes ma'am, they've intervened several times already and other races
have intervened as well, both good and bad, but that's what they say it is.
This is an occurrence that happens and what happens is that once the sun
does it, generally the planets follow suit, and what it does is that the
tone and frequency of our solar system is dictated by the sun, its not the
planets but by the sun, the sun sets the tone, and what happens is that when
it flips, and rotates, to its new axis, it puts off a new tone and frequency
and the other planets re-align themselves to that over a period of time ..
Its always been this way

Christian: ahum, that makes sense. One other quick question

Alex: Yes ma'am

Christina: Now, supposedly there's a portal over the middle east and I was
wondering if you have any information regarding that, because it seems that
if we're all genetically royal what happened to that part of the country
where they just wanna, as a world, where they just wanna kill themselves all
the time?

Alex: Oh, that's a great question and Christine I can answer it this way.
Okay, this is the best answer I can give you. Prejudice - is an extra
terrestrial perspective we have been taught to hate each other, because as
long as we hate each other we will never unite and evolve as a race, we will
constantly sabotage each other.

Christian: Hmm, well its seems like they are fighting brother to brother I
think we are a little more united in the United States, not much but a
little bit more

Alex: [laughing] well not enough

Christina: [laughing]

Alex: Not enough, you know its that we're not united, I think we're lazy, I
think we're really lazy.

Christina: A lot of people want to stand up and do something and it does
have to be a grassroots thing but lets face it, the people who think they're
in charge, they just get rid of people who start these grassroots
movements.I think on a conscious level that a lot of people are trying to
raise the situation, of pulling things together in a positive way, just
because we cant get out there and do it with signs or get some notice about
it because our liberties would be taken away doesn't mean we can't
consciously do it and I think that's what's going on

Alex: Christine, let me ask you this then, if that's the case why is it
only 25% of the population votes?

Christine: Oh I think your going to see a big voter turn out this time

Alex: That would be great

Christine: Yeah, I think we will. But on a lighter side I have something to
ask you Alex

Alex: Yes ma'am

Christine: [laughing] Is Al Gore a walk-in cause he doesn't look to
animated [giggling]

Alex: [laughing] I don't know, I don't know

Christine: Well thanks for your time

Patte: I've just gotta say we have to the news real quick

Christine: Okay im gonna let you go, thanks, and its great listening to you

Patte: Okay, thank you Christina. We do have to go to the news real quick
and then we'll be back with Alex Collier defending sacred ground. You wanna
go ahead and give your number out real quick Alex?

Alex: If you want information regarding anything call 303-215-1923 please
business hours don't call now, its you know, 1:30 in the morning here
[laughing]

Patte: Or check your web site at www.lettersfromandromeda.com

Alex: dot com, yes.

Patte: Okay great we'll be back in a moment right after the news.

[commercial break]

Patte: Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the Next Dimension, out of
this world talk radio on Talk American networks, my guest is Alex Collier
author of defending sacred ground. I'd also like to mention that our callers
will be receiving a free subscription to the auroran holistic journal and
research directory which contains our news letter. Right now we have art
from Brenning Pennsylvania on the line, I guess you have a very important
question for Alex. Go ahead [Art is barely audible]

Art: Alex

Alex: Yes

Art: Am I on?

Patte: yeah [laughing]

Alex: Hey Art.

Art: I have a question although maybe you want to answer one at the time.
The first has to do with the niburans, Sitchins 12th planet.

Alex: Yes sir, but its not exactly a planet, its more of a , well it is a
planet but its been hollowed out its now actually a space craft.

Art: This according to him has a period of 3600 years.

Alex: That's inaccurate, it basically travels anywhere it wants, you know,
my understanding is that they have sometimes instead of being 3600 years
apart, they've come 4200 years, sometimes 5700 years, 15,000 years

Art: When's is it due back?

Alex: The planet or the craft itself I've not been told that, but I can
tell you this quite honestly many of the Niburians, or Niburu are here in
our solar system now. There coming back there is an advanced force, the
protocol force, that is already in the solar system.

Art: ...web site about that .. paraphrase parts ... about what the possible
consequences [unclear]

Patte: Neither can i, we're having a problem hearing art through the lines
here I guess you can hear him Alex but we're not able to hear him at all

Alex: okay, do you want me to repeat the question?

Patte: yeah maybe repeat the question

Alex: Okay his question was making a reference to an announcement on our
web site, about the fact that they're here and what those consequences would
be for us and the answer is Art, my concern is that we're in trouble because
of their past, treatment of us in history. Some have treated as as equals,
but the family of enlil the natural born son of Anu, and again I refer to
Stitchen work

Art: Yes I know that

Alex: They hate us, I mean we're just nothing but a natural resource and
the last flood, the biblical flood of noah, was a tilting of the planet on
its axis which they did mechanically to try to wipe us out, to exterminate
the race and that's why the Andromedans and other races are here to make
sure that doesn't happen again, because we have a legitimate right to
survive, evolve. I don't know art what's gonna happen next, I wish I knew.
All I can do is keep you posted when I get new information.

Art: On the web site you said that Moraney mentioned that if he was asked
to leave he would do so.

Alex: If the council told him to leave they would have to

Art: Yes, they have the power to do that?

Alex: Yes sir they do

Art: and his duty bound to obey?

Alex: that's the impression I was given.

Art: If that was to occur then the fly over would not happen is that right?

Alex: I don't know that sir, I don't know that. [unclear] would stay here
because what happens here affects their future, so they have an investment
in seeing that this thing balances itself out.

Art: Well isn't it true that they are also from our future?

Alex: Yes sir.

Art: You might want to explain that for people who don't really understand
that

Alex: Okay.

Art: That's a big order

Patte: Before we answer we do have to take a quick break. We are getting to
hear Art now so its working but we'll be back in a moment with Alex Collier
and art from Weding Pennsylvania. We'll be right back.

[commercial break]

Patte: Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next dimension out of
this world talk radio my guest is Alex Collier and we were talking to art
from Weding Pennsylvania. Art did do you have another question?

Art: Yes we left it kind of hanging in the air. Alex as I recall you
mentioned that the one reason that the Andromedans are here is that they in
their future, at some point they discovered tyranny and they traced in back
to our galaxy is that correct?

Alex: Yeah, to our solar system

Art: Im sorry, to our solar system

Alex: Yes sir. Okay to give a little galactic history, a very very long
time ago there was a war in our galaxy and it was primarily between the
human races and the reptilian races and the two sides slaughtered each other
to the point where there was really no winner, they both just exhausted
themselves to where there and just basically went in their opposite
directions. The conflict was never really resolved. Now what happened was
that a group from Sirius B under the guidance of the Orion- a consortium out
of Orion, the Orion constellations, gave scientists on our planet,
technology, time travel technology. This time travel technology became known
as the Montauk project. And what happened was, we without knowing what we
were doing created a tear in time. We didn't know what we were doing, you
know we really had no business with the technology and according to Moraney
its supposed to be another 150 years before we actually invented time travel
ourselves, but anyway these races gave us this technology. We opened up
these holes in time, not one, not two, but three.. Holes in time which also
created three parallel realities of earth. Now apparently extra terrestrial
races from Orion and other groups that are regressive have been using these
time- these tears in time to go back in time and alter events in the past
that create 400 linear time in our future, tyranny in our galaxy and this is
one of the reasons why the Andromedans and other races are here. This is why
they intervened and stopped literally all portal time travel through these
tears, they've literally been sealing them up and blocking them and have
literally quarantined the solar system from time travel because they
realized that these specific races were going back and altering certain
events so that the outcome would be different from the way it was .. Does
that make sense?

Art: Yeah when they altered these events, and that would be in an parallel
reality?

Alex: Well -

Art: Because doesn't that lead to a paradox? if the events, if you go back
to the past and alter the event and when you get to the present you have a
paradox. You know the old story that if you went back and kill your father
would you then be born?

Alex: I don't know that that's necessarily true art, I don't know if it
was, if they actually go back and change an alternative reality, my
understanding is that they've been altering the original reality, you know
when you time travel it doesn't necessarily mean that they go to a parallel
reality. I don't honestly know enough about that and that's a great
question. I don't know if I have an answer for you. no.

Art: So they're really travellers in both space and time

Alex: Well yeah, yeah.

Patte: Does one of the things that they're altering like the perception of
what happened when Christ was on the earth to manipulate the people into
thinking it was a different scenario then it really was?

Art: Do you want to get into that Alex?

Alex: [laughing] One of my least favourite subjects to talk about. Patte I
can address that but you know, you may not like my answer.

Patte: Though I probably already know your answer and i'm not afraid for
you to say it

Alex: It didn't happen the way we've been taught, it didn't happen that way
at all, you know, and you know a lot of people are waiting for a saviour
that may not be coming, we may need to be our own saviour.

Patte: That's- for me I think that's a very important thing for our
listeners to hear, is that there is no saviour and if we continue to look
for a saviour we're placing expectations on what may turn out to be extra
terrestrials or whatever to be our saviours--

Alex: Right, we're disempowering ourselves

Patte: Right

Alex: We're totally disempowering ourselves by waiting to be saved.

Patte: That's right, and everybody looks to the government and everybody
looks to the coming of the Christ, the next saviour down the line who's
going to fix everything and I think your message is very important, that
we're here to save ourselves

Art: Not only that but I might interrupt, but that there's also rumours
that Putika[?unclear] may be some e.t groups that may try to play out.

Alex: play it out Art? is that what your going to say?

Art: I'm sorry?

Alex: To play it out

Art: Yeah to make it appear that they're coming here as saviours and all
this love and light sort of thing, so it seems that they're not saviours at
all

Alex: That's right, that's exactly right

Art: I don't know which groups they are

Alex: It would be the Dows, the grays

Art: By the way, are these groups, these creatures from Sirius B are they
reptilian or are they more humanoid?

Alex: Well there humanoid but they have partial scales

Art: Okay

Alex: They were a colony originally, my understanding is that it was a work
colony that - in other words there was a lot of mining in Orion - some of
the constellations in Orion were mining minerals that they needed in the
Sirius constellation and the actual race of Sirius B were the workers that
were brought there, basically slaves, prisoners to work those mines

Art: I see

Alex: And they've you know, evolved, over so many millions of years to
become the race that they are now. But again they're very stuck on monarchy,
where the king is god

Art: yeah. Earlier on you had mentioned about how suddenly man evolved very
very quickly and I've think the twist in that[unclear] the idea with the
messing of the DNA you know in the anthropology studies, we're savages all
this suddenly promagnum man appears

Alex: Right

Art: And doesn't that fit in with Stitchin's idea that they took the
hominid apes and altered the DNA and gave them a little bit more
intelligence

Alex: Ah yes sir, but there were also human races here too which we're not
being told about

Art: Yeah

Alex: You know I mean they're finding records of man as we know ourselves
you know in the fossilized record but they keep it quiet because they don't
want to take the time to rewrite history and say geees we were wrong

Art: Yeah

Alex: You know they would rather just propagating the lie you know to
protect their precious little hierarchy

Art: And isn't it true that --

Patte: I'm sorry Art and Alex we have to go to break and we've got the
shift report up so we'll back after the news okay

Alex/Art: Okay

Patte: Right

Alex: Bye bye

Patte: Bye bye

[ shift report with another guest ]

Patte: Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the third hour of the next
dimension my guest is Alex Collier, the author of defending sacred ground
and we were talking with Art from Weding Pennsylvania who has one more
question and then we will be discussing some things like holograms and some
of the other races. Art, you had one more question

Art: Yes the gentleman you were just talking with in hawaii [referring to
shift report]

Patte: Yes

Art: Mentioned about the magnetic changes, the magnetic changes in the
earths magnetic field - made reference to it - have you been following this
business with the homing pigeons?

Patte: Homing pigeons, no I haven't, i'm not familiar with it

Art: Apparently the homing pigeons used the magnetic lines of course as
their homing device and recently in the paper there was an article about - I
think it was near Pittburg where some 2000 pigeons were released and only
about 20 of them got home so

Patte: Can you comment on that Alex?

Art: Yeah the electro magnetic field of our earth is fluctuating and this
usually occurs before a physical pole shift of the planet- the
electromagnetic field will rotate and realign itself and then the planet
will follow and again this is all in response to the sun

Patte: So your expecting- are the Andromedans telling you we are going to
have a pole shift or is it?

Alex: The highest probability is any time between now and the year 2003.
Were going to have a physical pole shift.

Patte: Is it going to be very world drastic?

Alex: Yes ma'am it is, yes ma'am, it can be, it can be

Patte: Because some of the guests that I've had, we've discussed the shift
just a lot, as you can probably tell [laughing] some of the guests I've been
having saying that through consciousness and through different methods of
people working on this - through meditation and through [unclear] talking
about the fifth mode of prayer that we are softening some of these effects
and hopefully they wont be quite as drastic as has been predicted butyou
never know. Its up to us right [laughing]?

Alex: Yes ma'am it is

Patte: Okay did that answer your question for you Art?

Art: Yes it did

Patte: Okay well we appreciate your call

Art: Yes thank you very much Patte

Patte: All right, bye bye

Art: Good night, good night Alex

Alex: Good night art

Patte: One of the things that I want to discuss with you was with the fact
that we are actually in a hologram - I was reading that in your book

Alex: According to Andromedans the entire universe which involves all of
the dimensions, planes - or whatever you want to call it, including
ourselves are holographs. That it is made up of light, colour and sound, and
all matter is made up of that depending upon the frequency of the light and
colour and the sound will dictate the density of which it is, and they've
even said that were all holograms.

Patte: Our physical bodies are holograms?

Alex: Aha, yeah.

Patte: So basically the third dimensional hologram - when we are seeing
something outside of ourselves that's basically a mirror in 3d dimensional
form. Is that what we're saying?

Alex: Yes ma'am. For example, lets look at the process of birth okay. Here
you have a soul a soul attaches to a physical - a soul wants to incarnate
into third density, we'll say earth, okay how does the soul get in here? it
has to create the space okay, and how does it create the space. It has to
create a physical form that is acceptable by, with a frequency, colour
sounded frequency that will be able to integrate into this holograph which
we have which we call third density---

Patte: Alex, your gonna kill me [laughing] but we have to take a break

Alex: Another break

Patte: Okay this is our short one. When we come back we're gonna have a
nice span of time, so save your thought we'll be right back okay

Alex: Okay.

[break]

Patte: Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome to the next dimension we're back
with Alex Collier. Okay Alex lets start over with this [laughing]

Alex: Okay so if every single one of us had cognitive memory of you know,
our progression of lifetimes we would come to understand that we truly do
choose our parents for the purpose of the experience that we need to, that
we choose to have. Now how do we as a soul, a spirit come into third density
to experience physical reality, we have to create the space so what we do is
we attach to a body, to an embryo and as it grows and it matures in the
mothers body it is here, but it isn't here yet. It isn't actually the
birthing processing where now that physical now has its own space on- in
third density. You understand?

Patte: Yes I understand

Alex: Okay, so when a person has a near death experience they leave their
body, they're considered dead, for a time, whether its 10 seconds, 30
seconds a few second, they go to some place, and they have an experience.
Now its a real experience okay, but there no longer in physical body, they
are now some place else, that is just as real to them, even though it is not
as dense as physical. Now when they come back to their body and they relate
what experience they had some people are like, you know, how can that be?
where did you go, you know, how can that exist?. It exists because the
universe, what we know as our universe is a series of layers of frequencies
and vibration and within that hologram contains a level of frequencies of
harmonics that we exist on, and that can only be if it was a holograph.

Patte: Okay

Alex: For example, the Andromedans have a camera, which they use
extensively and its a holographic camera. Now Patte they can take a picture
of you, right now this moment, and depending on the setting of this camera,
it can be set for, 10 years in our linear time, 20 years in our linear time,
or it can even go back to moment of conception, of your mum and your dad.
Now this one picture contains, if they took a picture of you now it would
contain your entire life from now back to conception. And then what they do
is they take it apart and they look at specific times in your life and its
like a video but its actually a picture, its like a snapshot, but there able
to take it apart and look at various times in your life of who you were,
what your experiencing, everything about you okay, and its a holographic
camera, literally. They've taken lots of these kinds of pictures of our
planet and the reason they say they can do this is because it is a
holograph, it is a true account of who you are. Now we are so stuck in
linear time that it is very difficult of people to conceive the concept that
everything is a holograph. I mean you say holograph to most they'll say 'you
know, holo what?' they wont even know what your talking about , the soul,
your soul, my soul, everybody's soul is literally multidimensional, it is a
holograph, because what your experiencing now here in the present your not
consciously aware of other experiences your soul is having on other levels
because we have separated ourselves from the concept of a holograph into
linear thinking, that this is it, this is where I am now , and that's all
there is to it, there's nothing else that exists, and we've limited our self
tremendously, and we wonder why we're only using you know 12 to 15 percent
of our brain you know.

Patte: Yes, so when your talking in the book about we're moving into the
4th dimension and the 5th dimension

Alex: Yes ma'am

Patte: Okay, which is something that were doing right now, how - would you
explain to the listeners, which I thought was very interesting in your book
about how you will know, when you have say reached the 4th dimension or the
5th dimension

Alex: Well according to the Andromedans, many of us are already in the 4th
dimension and its consciousness

Patte: How does it look different then the 3rd dimensional consciousness?

Alex: Colour, its colour its frequency its sound, but to us on a physical
level, the first thing that will strike us will be the different in colours,
it will also be a difference in the depth of emotional experience

Patte: Depth of emotional experience

Alex: Experience... If the body, the entire body will experience all
emotion. As opposed to - you know just feeling it in a certain part of our
body, weather its the heart, the solar plexus, the mind, the throat, in
other words, the whole body will humm, it will vibrate, we will also, you
will also be able to see spirit, what we call spirit, which is really just
another dimension, many people can- are already beginning to experience
this, they're seeing things in their peripheral vision, they'll see things
walk by them, go past them, they'll see things in the room, and they'll look
and it isn't there of course, but to the peripheral vision they know they
saw something, or they felt something, in other words those kind of things
will become more and more physical. Telepathy, you will begin to experience
more telepathy. You will actually begin to hear other peoples thoughts about
you, directed to towards you, you will think of somebody and they will
immediately call you, and it will become more and more [music in
background]prevalent- is this another break?

Patte: Yeah [both laugh]

Patte: We'll be be right back in a moment- this is, this is great stuff,
we'll be back with Alex Collier in a moment

[commercial break]

Patte: Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next dimension my guest
is Alex Collier, who is talking about some of the changes we're
experiencing, from going from the 3rd to the 4th, 4th to the 5th dimension,
and you were just telling me things like telepathy and beginning to see
spirits

Alex: Yes, to see what we would call spirit, also Patte my understanding is
that as we move through it you'll be able to look at people and you will
automatically see physical dynfunctional in them, you will see it, and you
will know exactly what it is, because as we move through 4th into 5th we
will actually see pictures, in, peoples physical form, of what's causing the
blockage. Whether its an experience, whether its an emotion, we will be able
to really help each other as well as ourselves, and we'll be able to walk
through physicality because as we evolve the atoms that make up our physical
form which is held together by intent, will rotate at a higher frequency.
Which means we become less and less dense. That's why some of the ancient--
some of the people in India can actually do a meditation and literally
levitate themselves

Patte: Right

Alex: Because they raise the frequency of their atoms to make themselves
light, and that's why he begins to levitate [Patte talks over]

Patte: But where would he go? would there be people in the 3rd dimension at
the same time that somebody are like, for instance if im 3rd dimension will
I have people that I can see and work with that are in 4th dimension, the
5th dimension or we will all be interacting on the same plane, or will
people kind of all be in the 4th dimension at the same time, and then all
move into the 5th dimension at the same time?

Alex: The scenario I was given by Moraney and Vasais is this that it would
probably be the children first. That the children will be able to literally
walk into 4th and 5th density and will come back to each their parents how
to do it and to prepare them for what's on the other side. Its gonna be the
children that are going teach us because they're so wide open. For example,
i'm a dad, and, we have a toddler, and as you know toddlers go through
terrible twos, and threes sometimes, and other challenges. I've asked them
about it and what he told me was is that the children become frustrated
because they can remember their past life times and in their mind they see
themselves doing something, but physically they can't do it. They do not
understand how they can see themselves in their minds doing it and they
can't do it physically, and they get frustrated. Cause their minds are far
advanced then their bodies - the physical form, they don't understand why
their physicality limits them because in their mind they're wide open,
they're completely wide open and unless we continue to encourage that
openness in them, they loose it, and then they begin to dismiss that part of
their past, their past life, that recognition, they dismiss it, and then
they become you know, they start becoming like their parents.

Patte: So we're interacting, cause its very interesting of course, with
doing what im doing I meet some incredibly interesting people. Some of these
people have of course abilities like touch healing and psychic abilities
and - are some of these people like say on the 4th dimension, some on the
5th dimension - is that - are they kind of these certain people that have
certain abilities or are we all right now in the 4th dimension

Alex: We all have it

Patte: We all have it?

Alex: We [unclear] have to be ready to do it [??] but its a choice. Its a
decision that people have to make you know, and it sounds easy but it isn't

Patte: Oh I know

Alex: Its all based on programming and conditioning you know.

Patte: So are we all - well I guess my question is this - are we all in the
4th dimension right now or are we all, are some of us in the 3rd, and some
of us in the 4th and some of us in the 5th but we're all interacting at the
same time.

Alex: Some of us are in the 3rd, some of us are in the 4th, I believe there
are four or five people people on the planet now that can literally go from
3rd to 5th one of them being Sai Baba.

Patte: And the fifth dimension- I know we have to go, take a news break,
but lets talk about when we come back how does the fifth dimension differ
from say the 4th. You said something about the golden arches being
aqua-marine or something [Alex and Patte laugh]

Alex: Yeah we'll get to that. How long is the break?

Patte: Its just be a few minutes we're gonna take a news break so if you
wanna get up and stretch a little bit that's fine and well be back in a
moment. 1-888-822TALK with Alex Collier

[commercial / news break]

Patte: Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next dimension on talk
America and our guest is Alex Collier we're talking about now the difference
between the 3rd, 4th and going into the 5th dimension. So what's the
difference between the 4th and 5th dimension?

Alex: The biggest shift is the physicality. 5th density is a colour - what
we know as 3rd density, is a colour and sound frequency made up of 72
different frequencies within 3rd density there are 72 levels of sound and
colour okay?

Patte: Okay

Alex: Now that's what makes up our physicality. 4th dimension, when you
move into the 4th dimension which they say is primarily consciousness which
affects the mind and everything associated with intent - and that's a word
they use a lot, its intent, you move from 72 to 98 sound and colour
frequencies. Now when you move from there, when you move from fourth to 5th
density we're talking about a colour spectrum of 223 colour sound
frequencies so its more than double and it affects primarily the physicality
the most

Patte: In what way?

Alex: Well there are colours that we've never seen before, there are
colours, there are things that (sigh) lets see, 5th density is more fluid,
it is almost liquid, it is almost, its almost a wave, it is so hard to
describe

Patte: Is it like in contact?, what they were showing in contact? when she
went up their and on that other - I don't know plant or whatever that she
ended up going and it was so liquid and so vibrant?.. just--

Alex: Yeah, that would be a great analogy, that would be an excellent
analogy. Yes.

Patte: I thought that was tremendous

Alex: Yes, its like that, the ability to create is incredible, it is so
profound and its almost instantaneous that's why its important to evolve, to
really know who you are you know when you more through the different levels
to get to that place, its imperative that you know who you are because you
will create what you think, and there's an awesome responsibility associated
with that, you know we can do the same things here but there's always that
factor of time, everything takes time here. Where at that level things are
much quicker - you don't have the same element of time, in fact you don't
even think about time and because your physical body is not so dense you
will have longer life spans in a single physical form and gravity is
different. Patte it is so hard to describe because there are no words here
to describe the experiences, its as as if were going to have to literally
create an entire new vocabulary, or expression of thought and emotion to
relay what it is that we're going to be experiencing.

Patte: I have a question for you, I've noticed this , and I don't know, I
haven't been able to explain it. Several years ago I guess I was very caught
up in the conspiracy theory [laughing] okay, and the I guess the not so good
feelings about the government and all of these things that were going on,
and now I find myself unable to not, and I can't be real angry and all, all
I can do is like love these people and feel this thing in my heart that um,
I can't be angry with them anymore. And I just wondered if that's part of
the shift to the 4th dimension. Does that have anything to do with it going
more into a love vibration?

Alex: I think so

Patte: I guess we do have a take a break [both laugh]

Alex: Your kidding

Patte: No, never ending breaks, but we will be back and we have a caller
holding and we we'll have a question when we come back with Alex, we're with
Alex Collier we'll be back in a moment

[break]

Patte: Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next dimension, before
we take our caller, Alex have you in being on the ship have you been in the
4th and the 5th dimension

Alex: Yes I have, I have to wear a belt though

Patte: You have to wear a belt?

Alex: When I go with them, because they're from literally the 5th that's
where they are, that's where their consciousness is, and unless this belt
that will hold my atoms together what it does is- I put on this belt the
moment I get on the ship and it literally puts, it creates a force field
around my body, that allows me to be with them but still maintain a 3rd
density body, because otherwise my atoms would just scatter

Patte: Wow

Alex: Yeah, its pretty interesting

Patte: I bet it is interesting [laughing]

Alex: And they've been lots of times Patte I don't want to come back

Patte: This isn't the greatest place right now is it? [laughing]

Alex: No, its pretty depressing, at times.

Patte: It is, its hard to but you know, don't you feel that we are here
like on a mission to help bring this consciousness up, isn't that what were
really here for?

Alex: Yes ma'am it is, its just the resistance to change though, definitely
frustrates me per say you know everybody talks about it but when it really
comes down to making the change very few will walk the talk.

Patte: You know what I came to to believe after what I felt was a
resistance thing for so several years its not about changing anybody else
its about changing yourself because when you change yourself then you change
your reality.

Alex: That's exactly right

Patte: And so we really, you know its like, you know we can put all our
focus on, on how bad things are here but if we go into ourselves and we have
a peaceful centre in ourselves and we had Greg Graiden[unclear] on last week
who talked about the fifth mode [?] of prayer and they have digital proof
that feeling when you pray, praying rain, feeling the rain on your face,
smelling the rain as it hits the earth, feeling the earth under your feet
and praying rain and thanking God for that is the way that we change this,
we create, we are creating the outcome on this, and if we focus our energies
on what's bad in the world that's all we're going to see and we focus our
energy on the peace within this is what were gonna create, and so what I was
getting to with the hologram, Art by saying we're in a hologram which I
believe we are, then isn't everybody basically a mirror of ourselves? so
aren't we mirroring back to ourselves what we believe?

Alex: Yes, we are constantly creating ourselves over and over and over
again.

Patte: Right, right its important to keep our head in the right place

Alex: Well it is and its also important to be consciously aware of all of
our thoughts you know, so many people aren't even aware of what their
thinking most of the time, that's how unaware of themselves they are. And
everything you think about will manifest or put you in a place of where your
thinking you know, and we're not just being, we're not - somehow somewhere
the teaching about self broke down and you know we're not preparing our
children to be fully integrated human beings, you know we're not learning
ourselves or teaching how to be at one with all. And um, humm, I don't

Patte: We are one with all though arn't we?. Isn't--

Alex: Yes we are but we, but we, constantly are putting ourselves in self
imposed loneliness and I don't know how to break people of that habit.

Patte: How about breaking ourselves of the habit? that's probably, and
easier said than done you know but, recognizing that we are all connected
and that we are all one and that there is no separateness

Alex: There isn't

Patte: And that whatever we're seeing out there is a reflection of our
thoughts and trying to maintain our awareness of that consciousness we do
have. Go ahead did you have something to say

Alex: I just said it was very well said

Patte: Oh thank you. We have ed in Texas that has another question for us,
Ed are you there [laughing]

Ed: Yeah im here

Alex: Are you still awake I cant believe it

Ed: Of course i'm awake [Alex laughs] Patte there's just not enough time in
the next dimension

Patte: I know!

Ed: Alex with all the chemicals in our water such as fluoride, kind of
beating down our conciousnesses and toxins etc., I wanted you to make a
comment about the copper in our systems and how increasing the copper can
restore some of our brain capacity and our nervous system capacity

Alex: That's a great question, you mentioned that earlier, and you know, we
got into other things and now your busy. Apparently our original physical
form was copper based, in other words we were all blue bloods and by adding
copper back into our diets, and i'm talking about colloidal copper we know
that's absorbable into the blood stream what it does it creates an automatic
seal to an electromagnetic energy which means that our brain frequencies and
our brain capacity is less influenced by outside magnetic waves, which means
that is very difficult brainwash, to manipulate somebody's thinking by
technology it also means that you you will increase the frequency, the
vibrational frequency of the body, by adding this mineral because it itself
vibrates and its directly connected to the planet, what was the other part
of that ?

Ed: Well I was mentioning about fluorides

Alex: Oh fluoride

Ed: About the hypocampus

Alex: Yeah, you know Val Valerian at the leading edge web site has done
extensive research and a lot of others, it basically shuts down many parts
of the brain and almost totally shuts down psychic ability. Its amazing that
some people you know drink a lot of water, fluoride water, city water and
are still psychic. But you know, its a terrible terrible thing, what its
doing to the body. Copper, by adding copper back into the diet as a mineral
basically helps the body in all levels. The greatest thing is that it opens
and makes your nervous system vibrates at a higher level which means that
the higher your nervous system vibrates the more soul, your soul can attach
to the physical body. For an example there are some people you will see that
are just not in their bodies their not there okay, those are people, you
know, they say well you need grounding, and you need this and you need that
and we all know people who are like that. What they need is copper,
colloidal copper in their diet, in will automatically help their soul ground
to their nervous system it just means they're not fully attached and the
soul attaches to the physical body in the nervous system, that's what soul
attaches

Ed: Is that strictly colloidal or does that include chetable[?] copper
also?

Alex: Either.

Ed: I wanted to put in another plug in for your book cause I've followed
this extraterrestrial thing for years, and your book really hit inner source
within me, and I felt, I cant wait for the next one to come out.

Alex: Well hopefully it will just be in few months, its called Ancient
Whispers and its the history of our solar system, and other races that have
come here.

Ed: Thank you both so much

Alex: Your welcome Ed

Patte: Okay thank you we have to take a quick break again. 303-215-1923 if
you'd like to contact Alex and www.lettersfromandromeda.com. We'll be back
in a moment with Alex Collier - Defending Sacred Ground.

[break]

Patte:Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next dimension, my guest
this evening has been Alex Collier author of defending sacred ground. I do
want to mention that next week my guest will be Bart Smyth[sp?] on energetic
healing and tai chi and also the author of 'bliss is everywhere' which is
Mark Jones and you were talking about using or adding copper , colloidal
water, to the system to help protect against electromagnetic frequencies
which I find is real interesting because I met a doctor a couple of weeks
ago that is out of Sedona, we're gonna have her on the show and she will
tell us how to make it for pennies [laughing]

Alex: Yes its not that difficult

Patte No, its sounds like its pretty easy and she also advises using micro
water, more alkaline water to raise your frequency which is very
interesting..

Alex: There's a lot of things that people can do and they're very simple,
and next to nothing to do. For example colloidal silver is one of the best
protections against virus and diseases ever, you know, and [laughing] you
know, the FDA wants to take it off the shelves they want it outlawed because
its cheap its simple and all you gotta do is get a jug of water throw a
silver, a real silver coin in there and drink it and you know diseases,
viruses cannot exist with the body with that stuff there. Its amazing that
the knowledge that's out there , you know the herbs, and other things that
people can take, its real simple stuff. We've complicated our lives way too
much

Patte: They want to make it look difficult but actually its very simple

Alex: It really is, you know they don't want us to be educated so we can be
self reliant, self responsible, because if we're all like that nobody has
control over us. And that's what its about, its about control

Patte: Yes, its about being sovereign

Alex: Yeah it is

Patte: Taking responsibility for ourselves, not working to big brother to
provide us with food, shelter and clothing

Alex: Yeah

Patte: Taking care of our children and everything that goes along with the
more responsibility we abdicate to somebody, the more power they take over
us.

Alex: That's exactly right, there's always a price.

Patte: [laughing]So anyway we have a just a few more minutes here and I
would like just to give you an opportunity to give our listeners what
message you would like to give to them from the Andromedans or anything that
you think would be of a special important and also make sure to give your
phone number and web site again okay.

Alex: Okay, I would just like to just say something you know, on behalf of
myself. I've been trying to share this information for 10 years, and I've
had a lot of challenges, I've had a lot of security issues, I've had several
threats, and you know ladies and gentleman, I just want you to know that I
really love our race. I know what we can become, but I can't do it alone,
and we need to make some changes, we need to make an investment in
ourselves, and each one of us has to do it in our way, there's no one way to
do it, there's no one person that has all the answers, its different for
everybody and anybody that says 'hey this is the way'. You know there's just
not one way.

Patte: So search within right?

Alex: Well that's where it starts, I mean you know, im creating my reality,
your creating your reality, i'm not creating the guys reality down the
street, he is

Patte: Right

Alex: And i'm not responsible for him, i'm responsible for myself, and vice
versa, and you know ladies and gentleman, please do not turn on each other,
we really need each other

Patte: I guess, unfortunately we have to end on that note cause we're up to
a news break again, thank you so much, I really appreciate it, it was a
wonderful show, 303-215-1923 get his book, you're gonna love it, and again,
I thank you and to all of my listeners and to you I say namaste the god in
my salutes the god in you.

[end of show]
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