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ANTARCTICAN ANTIQUITY - THE EVIDENCE AT LAST

Later, Italian mathematician and writer Flavio Barbiero, who specialises =
in ice age history, presented another key lecture of the weekend. He =
proposed that an Apollo object, plausibly an asteroid, collided with the =
earth around 9500 BC causing a shift in the polar axis which led to a =
nuclear winter, global volcanic eruptions, tsunamis and mass destruction =
of the Pleistocene megafauna. This period of chaos was followed by a =
warming of the climate and the rapid rise in sea level caused through =
the ice meltwater entering the ocean. He rejected Charles Hapgood's =
hypothesis that these same conditions might have been caused by a =
crustal displacement of the earth's surface brought on by the =
instability of the ice fields at the poles. He pointed out that Hapgood =
himself admitted that there were problems with this solution, especially =
as it could not have taken place instantaneously but would instead have =
taken place over a period of 5000 years with long periods of inactivity =
followed by sudden violent shifts in the crust at irregular intervals.

The manner in which a cosmic impact might shift the poles is too complex =
to explain here. Suffice to say that it involves a shift in the bulging =
of the earth's surface, something which Flavio Barbiero has confirmed =
through mathematical probability.

Antarctica stood in the middle of a huge ocean surrounded by the other =
great landmasses, making it an ideal location for a high culture =
displaced when the polar shift took place. Indeed, like the Flem-aths of =
Canada, Barbiero proposes that Antarctica was Atlantis. Moreover, he =
suggests that the Antarcticans belonged to an Austronesian race that =
occupied either Australia or Island Southeast Asia around 40,000 and =
50,000 years ago. Having taken advantage of the prevailing currents that =
would carry a vessel westwards towards the tip of Africa, and the waters =
between Antarctica and the base of South America, they settled on the =
landmass which was free of ice in its north-western sector. He cited a =
recent report in the SUNDAY TIMES newspaper announcing that scientists =
had identified a human skull, found in Brazil, as that of an =
Austronesian who lived around 15,000 BC. We also know that there is now =
mounting evidence of a high culture in Brazil that Carbon-14 dating has =
suggested is up to 50,000 years old.

Yet the Antarcticans' end came when the earth was struck by an Apollo =
object in 9500 BC, Barbiero proposes. The sudden great freeze that would =
have accompanied the movement of the south pole from a position in the =
waters between Antarctica and Australia to central Antarctica (its =
present location) would have meant the rapid displacement of the =
Antarctican peoples to other parts of the globe. Moreover, since they =
probably inhabited coastal regions of the mainland as well as various =
offshore islands then much evidence of their presence will have been =
lost, not beneath the ice fields but below the freezing waters. These =
would have risen as the previous ice caps melted in North America and =
Northern Europe.

Barbiero's map of 9500 BC shows suggested migrational routes from the =
ice-bound continent to South America, India, Indonesia and Africa. He =
even has arrows ending in Ethiopia, Egypt and Northern Europe. This then =
represents his displacement of the proposed Atlantean race.

Flavio Barbiero then made reference to my own lecture citing Atlantis as =
being located in the Caribbean. Acknowledging my findings, he suggested =
that the culture, which inhabited the former Bahaman landmass, Cuba and =
the Caribbean in general, belonged to a post-Atlantis period.

As you might imagine, I sat intently through Barbiero's lecture making =
copious notes and attempting to find good reason to counter his argument =
that Atlantis was Antarctica. In the end, however, I could only but =
agree with him on everything other than two main points:-

  1.. In my opinion the cataclysmic event to which he refers occurred =
post 9500 BC and involved the formation of the Carolina Bays in the =
eastern United States. The evidence presented in GATEWAY TO ATLANTIS and =
taken originally from primary scientific papers of the past 40 years, =
strongly suggests that the date of this event was 8500 BC (+/- 500 =
years), with the sea-level rise beginning sometime around 300-500 years =
later. The higher date of 9500 BC is generally derived from Greenland =
ice-core samples, the dates of which are determined by identifying =
so-called acid peaks within the yearly layers made by snow-fall =
accumulation. These peaks are produced when sulfuric acid settles after =
volcanic eruptions or other similar events. Exactly which eruption might =
have been involved is based on our current knowledge of such events =
determined through Carbon-14 dates recalibrated using a mixture of =
mathematics and dendrochronology (tree-ring analysis). This can increase =
raw Carbon-14 dates by up to 1000 to 1200 years, meaning that a date of =
8500 BC alters to become 9700-9500 BC. There are reasons to doubt the =
accuracy of dates reached through dendrochronology and I have therefore =
chosen not to use recalibrated Carbon-14 dates, a stance also adopted by =
my colleague David Rohl. What I am getting at here is that the date of =
9500 BC attached to the Greenland ice core samples does not simply come =
from counting yearly snow-fall layers. It is derived from a number of =
different sources that may or may not turn out to be correct.=20
  2.. Where as I have no problem accepting that Antarctica was once =
inhabited (indeed, it is more or less certain - see below), I am =
convinced that whatever was going on here relates to a much earlier age. =
I find no good reason to link this human activity with Plato's story of =
Atlantis, which was clearly located in the Far West, the watery domain =
of Atlas, from which it derived the title `daughter of Atlas'. It is my =
belief that the peoples of Antarctica were initially displaced from the =
continent at a much earlier date, plausibly one in the region of 15,000 =
BC. They migrated to South America (as originally proposed by Arthur =
Posnansky, the noted archaeologist who determined that the orientation =
of Tiahuanaco's Kalasasaya court was decided by the rising and setting =
of the solstitial sun sometime between 15,000 and 10,000 BC). I consider =
that these peoples continued to move northwards, both by sea and land, =
and ended up founding the Caribbean Atlantean culture focused on Cuba =
and the former Bahaman landmass. This was to be the original proposal of =
GATEWAY TO ATLANTIS before I finally came to realise that Plato was =
alluding to an island in the vicinity of the Caribbean and not to a =
major landmass in the south.=20
So how were we to resolve these issues? After his lecture, Flavio =
Barbiero came up and introduced himself. We entered into an hour long =
debate of immense importance. I cited my differences of opinion and =
after much discussion the two of us agreed that we are dealing with two =
separate periods of activity - one surrounding the dispersal from =
Antarctica of its culture and the second concerning the cessation of the =
Caribbean culture. He suggested dates in the region of 9500 and 8000 BC =
respectively. I doubted this possibility, proposing that the two dates =
were simply a confusion of one single event around 8500 BC (+/- 500 =
years). Instead, I suggested that the dates were in the region of 15,000 =
and 8500 BC. The earlier date can be taken as the earliest time-frame =
for the beginning of the end of the last Ice Age, an event which was =
dramatically curtailed with the rapid melting of the ice caps post 8000 =
BC. Only time will tell whether either one of us is correct in our =
assumptions



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ANTARCTICAN ANTIQUITY - THE =
EVIDENCE AT=20
LAST
Later, Italian mathematician and writer Flavio =
Barbiero, who=20
specialises in ice age history, presented another key lecture of the =
weekend. He=20
proposed that an Apollo object, plausibly an asteroid, collided with the =
earth=20
around 9500 BC causing a shift in the polar axis which led to a nuclear =
winter,=20
global volcanic eruptions, tsunamis and mass destruction of the =
Pleistocene=20
megafauna. This period of chaos was followed by a warming of the climate =
and the=20
rapid rise in sea level caused through the ice meltwater entering the =
ocean. He=20
rejected Charles Hapgood's hypothesis that these same conditions might =
have been=20
caused by a crustal displacement of the earth's surface brought on by =
the=20
instability of the ice fields at the poles. He pointed out that Hapgood =
himself=20
admitted that there were problems with this solution, especially as it =
could not=20
have taken place instantaneously but would instead have taken place over =
a=20
period of 5000 years with long periods of inactivity followed by sudden =
violent=20
shifts in the crust at irregular intervals.
The manner in which a cosmic impact might shift the =
poles is too=20
complex to explain here. Suffice to say that it involves a shift in the =
bulging=20
of the earth's surface, something which Flavio Barbiero has confirmed =
through=20
mathematical probability.
Antarctica stood in the middle of a huge ocean =
surrounded by the=20
other great landmasses, making it an ideal location for a high culture =
displaced=20
when the polar shift took place. Indeed, like the Flem-aths of Canada, =
Barbiero=20
proposes that Antarctica was Atlantis. Moreover, he suggests that the=20
Antarcticans belonged to an Austronesian race that occupied either =
Australia or=20
Island Southeast Asia around 40,000 and 50,000 years ago. Having taken =
advantage=20
of the prevailing currents that would carry a vessel westwards towards =
the tip=20
of Africa, and the waters between Antarctica and the base of South =
America, they=20
settled on the landmass which was free of ice in its north-western =
sector. He=20
cited a recent report in the SUNDAY TIMES newspaper announcing that =
scientists=20
had identified a human skull, found in Brazil, as that of an =
Austronesian who=20
lived around 15,000 BC. We also know that there is now mounting evidence =
of a=20
high culture in Brazil that Carbon-14 dating has suggested is up to =
50,000 years=20
old.
Yet the Antarcticans' end came when the earth was =
struck by an=20
Apollo object in 9500 BC, Barbiero proposes. The sudden great freeze =
that would=20
have accompanied the movement of the south pole from a position in the =
waters=20
between Antarctica and Australia to central Antarctica (its present =
location)=20
would have meant the rapid displacement of the Antarctican peoples to =
other=20
parts of the globe. Moreover, since they probably inhabited coastal =
regions of=20
the mainland as well as various offshore islands then much evidence of =
their=20
presence will have been lost, not beneath the ice fields but below the =
freezing=20
waters. These would have risen as the previous ice caps melted in North =
America=20
and Northern Europe.
Barbiero's map of 9500 BC shows suggested migrational =
routes=20
from the ice-bound continent to South America, India, Indonesia and =
Africa. He=20
even has arrows ending in Ethiopia, Egypt and Northern Europe. This then =

represents his displacement of the proposed Atlantean race.
Flavio Barbiero then made reference to my own lecture =
citing=20
Atlantis as being located in the Caribbean. Acknowledging my findings, =
he=20
suggested that the culture, which inhabited the former Bahaman landmass, =
Cuba=20
and the Caribbean in general, belonged to a post-Atlantis =
period.
As you might imagine, I sat intently through =
Barbiero's lecture=20
making copious notes and attempting to find good reason to counter his =
argument=20
that Atlantis was Antarctica. In the end, however, I could only but =
agree with=20
him on everything other than two main points:-

  
In my opinion the cataclysmic event to which he =
refers=20
  occurred post 9500 BC and involved the formation of the Carolina Bays =
in the=20
  eastern United States. The evidence presented in GATEWAY TO =
ATLANTIS=20
  and taken originally from primary scientific papers of the past 40 =
years,=20
  strongly suggests that the date of this event was 8500 BC (+/- 500 =
years),=20
  with the sea-level rise beginning sometime around 300-500 years later. =
The=20
  higher date of 9500 BC is generally derived from Greenland ice-core =
samples,=20
  the dates of which are determined by identifying so-called acid peaks =
within=20
  the yearly layers made by snow-fall accumulation. These peaks are =
produced=20
  when sulfuric acid settles after volcanic eruptions or other similar =
events.=20
  Exactly which eruption might have been involved is based on our =
current=20
  knowledge of such events determined through Carbon-14 dates =
recalibrated using=20
  a mixture of mathematics and dendrochronology (tree-ring analysis). =
This can=20
  increase raw Carbon-14 dates by up to 1000 to 1200 years, meaning that =
a date=20
  of 8500 BC alters to become 9700-9500 BC. There are reasons to doubt =
the=20
  accuracy of dates reached through dendrochronology and I have =
therefore chosen=20
  not to use recalibrated Carbon-14 dates, a stance also adopted by my =
colleague=20
  David Rohl. What I am getting at here is that the date of 9500 BC =
attached to=20
  the Greenland ice core samples does not simply come from counting =
yearly=20
  snow-fall layers. It is derived from a number of different sources =
that may or=20
  may not turn out to be correct.=20
  
Where as I have no problem accepting that =
Antarctica was once=20
  inhabited (indeed, it is more or less certain - see below), I am =
convinced=20
  that whatever was going on here relates to a much earlier age. I find =
no good=20
  reason to link this human activity with Plato's story of Atlantis, =
which was=20
  clearly located in the Far West, the watery domain of Atlas, from =
which it=20
  derived the title `daughter of Atlas'. It is my belief that the =
peoples of=20
  Antarctica were initially displaced from the continent at a much =
earlier date,=20
  plausibly one in the region of 15,000 BC. They migrated to South =
America (as=20
  originally proposed by Arthur Posnansky, the noted archaeologist who=20
  determined that the orientation of Tiahuanaco's Kalasasaya court was =
decided=20
  by the rising and setting of the solstitial sun sometime between =
15,000 and=20
  10,000 BC). I consider that these peoples continued to move =
northwards, both=20
  by sea and land, and ended up founding the Caribbean Atlantean culture =
focused=20
  on Cuba and the former Bahaman landmass. This was to be the original =
proposal=20
  of GATEWAY =
TO=20
  ATLANTIS before I finally came to realise that Plato was alluding =
to an=20
  island in the vicinity of the Caribbean and not to a major landmass in =
the=20
  south. 
So how were we to resolve these issues? After his =
lecture,=20
Flavio Barbiero came up and introduced himself. We entered into an hour =
long=20
debate of immense importance. I cited my differences of opinion and =
after much=20
discussion the two of us agreed that we are dealing with two separate =
periods of=20
activity - one surrounding the dispersal from Antarctica of its culture =
and the=20
second concerning the cessation of the Caribbean culture. He suggested =
dates in=20
the region of 9500 and 8000 BC respectively. I doubted this possibility, =

proposing that the two dates were simply a confusion of one single event =
around=20
8500 BC (+/- 500 years). Instead, I suggested that the dates were in the =
region=20
of 15,000 and 8500 BC. The earlier date can be taken as the earliest =
time-frame=20
for the beginning of the end of the last Ice Age, an event which was=20
dramatically curtailed with the rapid melting of the ice caps post 8000 =
BC. Only=20
time will tell whether either one of us is correct in our=20
assumptions


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