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Peter Weissbach = PW
Alec Newald = AN

PW : Thankyou for joining me this morning ladies and gentlemen, it’s an
honour to sit in for Art Bell on Coast to Coast AM. Coming to you from
Seattle this evening. We’re going to hook up with a gentleman in New
Zealand, which will mean normally there’s just that split second delay when
we’re talking back and forth.


PW : One Monday in Mid February 1989 Alec Newald set off on what should have
been a three-hour drive. He arrived at his destination feeling tired and
confused, but was even more confused to learn that Monday was now Thursday
10 days later. He had no idea of what had happened in the meantime, when
Alec did retrieve his memories of those missing ten days he realised his
life had changed forever. Early on in that fateful trip, while driving
through a foggy mountain pass Alec was whisked from the road by Beings from
an Extraterrestrial Civilisation. They took him to their planet, told him
about humanities past. What is the secret no one wants you to know?


PW : Alec welcome.


AN : Hi Peter it’s really good to speak to you again.


PW : Listen when you were abducted you say be Aliens right?


AN : Well ... Dimensional Entities Peter, it’s very hard to label these
things when you’re searching for truth you don’t really want to put earthly
words to something you don’t really understand entirely.


PW : So you’re driving along, the next thing you know it’s ten days later,
you’re confused your tired and then tell us... you’re trying to make up for
the ten days, you think you suffered amnesia?


AN : Well there were a lot of things going through my mind Peter at that
stage. Yes basically I was concerned for my health and I actually had a
medical check up immediately after that, I passed with a clean bill of
health but one thing I did find that I had a rather rare blood group... Well
I was a rhesus negative blood group which I had never heard of before and I
started to do some research. And I found out over the course of the last few
years that people with Rhesus Negative Blood have certainly been having more
strange interactions with what we might call Interdimensional Entities than
those of the most regular blood group, so for whatever the reasons there’s a
tie up there with something in our past I believe Peter.


PW : Well lets go back ten years ago. So you’re back your confused your
putting pieces together, it’s ten days later, you can’t figure out whats
going on. How do you finally come to this realisation that says “hey wait a
minute, I was actually abducted”, “I was taken away by ET’s”.


AH : Well thats a long story Peter, you’ve got allow me to explain.... the
last five or six years I’ve been sifting through what happened and trying to
piece together what happened. What started me to recall was alot of bits and
pieces in dreams. I just kept on waking in the middle of the night with the
same dream and I started to write down what I believed what the dream was
about. Because I was trying to work it out, if you can understand, having an
unusual experience missing ten days and then having these dreams that were
almost trying to explain to me the missing time. So I started jotting down
what I believed the dream was about and in the end it actually pieced
together as a consistent theme or almost a storyline which I started to
believe was what truly happened over those ten days. And from that I’ve done
alot of research since and I’ve found at.... at that stage I thought I must
be the only one having these sort of experiences and could I believe them to
be true... until I found out when I did research and got onto the internet
and that, that I’m just one of many that are having these interactions and
unfortunately getting onto the mainstream media and trying to get this story
out to the general public is a no go, there just seems to be a media embargo
with anybody who’s having these types of interactions. You just can not get
anything out into the general public. So people remain ignorant to whats
going on to a large percentage of the human race.


PW : Right I want to get into whats happening with the Human Race. I just
want to get the background down. So when you arrived ten days later, you
must have been somewhat frightened, I would be if I couldn’t account for ten
days of my life. I mean it would really bother me - what was going through
your mind then?


AN : Well that’s exactly right. Thats why I went and had the medical
examination to start with, because I thought that the obvious thing was that
I’d had a nervous breakdown. But what actually happened in the car leading
up to this episode was from what I could remember, the last conscious
recollection was that it appeared that I had lost control of the car, and
for some reason the steering wheel had frozen and I couldn’t use the brakes
and the car appeared to me to be going to crash. And what followed
immediately to me was what could only be explained as a near death
experience. I truly believed that I had died Peter and what was confronted
me from that moment on could only be explained had I crashed and died. So to
me I was trying to relate to “I’m dead” “I’ve had an accident” and from what
I’m seeing from now on it after death. There was no thought of ET's,
Interdimensional entities, it was either - if I confronted something it was
obviously something that related to after life.


PW : So when you thought initially that it was a near death experience, did
you go through the tunnel the seeing of people that you knew before, being
drawn to the light - did you go through that kind of experience?


AN : No. It was slightly different, so obviously now in hindsight I realise
it wasn’t a near death experience, but because I had nothing to compare it
with and I obviously done alot of research on near death experiences since
this incident, trying to relate it to that which it wasn’t. The best I could
describe and answer that after the car accident, had it happened, I was in a
large cavan space surrounded by a blue light, I didn’t appear to have a
body, which certainly would sit with a near death experience, so I appeared
to be bodiless, weightless and I appeared really to be ghostlike, and when I
looked around me in the distance after some period of time, I noticed there
were other entities in the distance which didn’t look human either and were
only wisp like or ghostlike so I certainly got the impression that would
lead you to believe that “ok you’re dead” “you’ve gone up or down” and what
you’re going to meet next is your maker or something maybe much worse.


PW : Did you have fear at any time during that experience?


AL : Strangely Peter no. I felt quite comfortable with the situation I was
in. I had if you like recollection, I could conceive of my situation, there
was no fear involved and when these entities that were off in the distance
finally contacted me, my first instinct was not to run away basically but to
follow even though there was no verbal communication, I seemed to be drawn
to them, so it was a very unusual experience obviously and not anything you
would immediately relate to spaceships, ET's, UFO’s. I never actually during
the whole event saw what I would call a UFO, and it was only much later in
the interaction that I finally realised, basically they had to explain to me
that these entities were not of this earth.


PW: Of course, and they knew exactly what you were thinking about, because
they were telepathic were they not?


AN : Well the communication was being made in that manner, but of course I’m
like you Peter, up until that point in time I've never had telepathic
communication presented to me, I didn’t even understand the theory of it,
and probably still don’t.


PW : But they could read your mind couldn’t they?


AN : Well yes, this is what was going on. I was having these thoughts and
they were answering me but I wasn’t actually saying anything and strangely
enough neither were they. But at that point in time, initially very early on
I could not actually get any communication from them, they could obviously
communicate with me but it was only later on, they actually donned me with
what I would call an artificial skin or a body suit and some sort of
communication device was fitted to this sleek body suit and it enabled me
then, at that point in time, to read their thoughts.


PW : Right, just to catch up. Alec’s telling us a story that happened 10
years ago, and he’s written about it in a book called CoEvolution, The True
Story of Ten Days on An ET Civilisation. It’s published by Adventure
Unlimited, and is of course available at Amazon.com. The number to call to
get on the air and speak to Alec Newald is 18887006333, we have much more to
cover, as Alec says he was on a totally different planet, a planet by the
name of Haven and the ET's that had abducted him, told him something that he
feels compelled to share with the world. And we’ll be getting onto that in
just a moment.


PW : So you disappear for ten days. How long does it take you to realise
that you’re not even on Planet Earth?


AN : Difficult question Peter. I was told that there was a period of time
where I went through some sort of phase change .... I couldn’t even think of
the right words to describe it really, this change took about 24 hours. So
part of that time I wasn’t even conscious of what was going on and if you
believe it they were actually building another body for me, from what I can
gather, from what I’ve been able to understand. Something that would take me
to a different dimension.


PW : So you’re saying that this isn’t like a distant place, it’s like a
planet in a different dimension?


AN : It has to be a different dimension Peter because there was certainly
dimension travelled involved and they did go to some lengths to explain to
me what was going on, but the technicality of it was way beyond me and it
was probably beyond most of the scientists on this planet. You’ve got to
forgive an average guy off the street for probably not getting all of it
technically right. But certainly there was a shape involved and a vehicle
that was involved, and believe it or not the shape by pyramidal ,
Tenterden - certainly they told me that this shape is definitely required
for dimentional travel. And that was the type of vehicle I was on.. it was a
mobile Pyramid.


PW : A mobile Pyramid?


AN : Well it brings back memories of the movies that came out not so long
ago, I think if I remember correctly in 1995, there was a movie made by
Hollywood that had indeed mobile pyramids and believe it or not, my drawings
and everything had been presented to my editor before that, so makes you
wonder who’s spying on who in Hollywood and how they get some of these
ideas, it really does.


PW : So why did they in essence abduct you? What did they tell you?


AN : Well it’s a very very long story Peter. But evidently these people are
involved in Earth’s history many many 1000’s maybe even a hundred thousand
years ago. They created alot of hybrid humans on this planet, hence maybe,
quite possibly the rhesus negative blood that a small percentage of earth
population have, about 10-15% and these people hinted to be that they’re
descendants on this planet would have this blood group, which I obviously
had and that they had seeded a line of people on this planet to be rulers of
some description and through royal Bloodlines, this I’ve found out more
recently through the works of others, Laurence Gardner etc who has very
scholarly work and research. So I’ve got to believe what these people were
telling me is true, that we have had, if you like to call them
Extraterrestrial Interdimensional entities interfering and altering the
bloodlines and grouping and genealogy of the human race.


PW : For what purpose? Why are they doing this?


AN : Well they lived here, many many thousands of years ago, as I was about
to explain and interbred with the human race, so there blood is mixed with
ours. Unfortunately it would appear with the dimensional situation that they
are in is life threatening and they basically have to leave their present
situation which maybe dimensional or at least in another planet in another
solar system, they have to come back here - evidently though, because their
physical makeup has altered through time travel as well as dimensional
travel - and they are in our future by a million or more years, they have to
come back here and re-splice in with the bloodline left behind, which could
well be this Rhesus Negative bloodline.


PW : When you say they have to come back, are you saying they created
mankind?


AN : Not perse, they created a race of people on this planet which are
slightly different to everyone else.


PW : For what purpose... why?


AN : For what purpose... Well I believe that when they were here they were
using the Human Race as slave labour.


PW : What?


AN : And I believe they needed a ruling class of humans to basically
overseer the human slave labour race and what they created was a race of
earthly leaders, but they had a large percentage of their own personal
genetics.


PW : Are they intending to come back to enslave us once again?


AN : I don’t think... I think the purpose for the slave labour has long
since gone, and we’re talking about maybe more than a million years into the
future here Peter. Reasons have changed and situations have changed and I
think, I believe they are actually asking and have interacted with earth
governments... they have almost come cap in hand asking to be able to come
back to this planet. I do believe they’ve got rather a cold shoulder from
the miliary regime that run this planet at the moment.


PW : Are you saying that they have been in touch with earth governments?


AN : Evidently for a very long time Peter, at least since the Second World
War. Since the atomic experiences in I think White Sands Nevada is it?


PW : Well we’re going to have to find out exactly what it is that they want.


PW : Ladies and Gentleman our guest is Alec Newald, he is in New Zealand, he
has this fascinating story he’s telling us. Ten years ago he was abducted,
he left on a three hour drive and didn’t arrive until 10 days later. He
ended up being abducted by ET's which are on a different vibrational level
according to Alec... And you’re saying that these ET's have been in contact
with earth governments Alec, but a number of years.


AN : It would appear so Peter, I’ve only got their word on that and I’m not
in a position to get the inside track from US Military sources of course.
But the rumours that appear all over the place and appear from leaked
documents and secret documents on the internet as you probably know would
suggest that perhaps something did go on in the mid 40’s and 50’s.


PW : So what is it that they want - what do they want from our Government?


AN : Well they wanted permission to settle here. This is what I was being
told and they actually did get permission in some sort of deal they worked
out in the mid 1950’s that they were given an area of land, I’m not privy to
exactly what area of land that would be. But in exchange for some form of
technology a deal of made and they were given permission at a time that
suited them, which I believe is in the next 100 years, they would be
resettling back here on this planet. And I believe that there had been,.....
that earth governments have reneged on the deal at some stage after
accepting the technology and now there appears to be a not so secret war
going on in our atmosphere.


PW : A war between who?


AN : Well, it’s a star wars scenario, it’s actually occurring daily in our
atmosphere between unknown UFO craft and earth based, laser or particle beam
weapons, and high powered microwave technology - and basically what I can
gather is that the earth’s miliary are trying to prevent these people from
a), liaison with people like myself and b). from coming back here
altogether.


PW : They must be so far superior in terms of their power and capabilities
to those that we possess here on earth, it’s inconceivable that the US
Military could keep them out.


AN : They’re in very small numbers Peter. They’re not here in force, they’re
not coming here as an invasion force to start with, they’re very very
reluctant to retaliate un any circumstances anyway and I believe will only
fire back when directly threatened or when contact has been made and one of
their craft has been hit. Thats my believe, but I’m getting alot of this
information second hand, but I was told first hand by them that this is
happening but of course I can’t prove that.


PW : Now you’ve talked alot with the ET called Zeena right?


AN : That was one entity that identified itself to me because she was
related.


PW : She was related to you?


AN : Yes by birthright, her mother which was also a pure bred human I guess
you could call it, so it would make her a hybrid entity - half human half
alien and the same mother, her mother was related to me.


PW : In what way?


AN : I don’t really want to go into details there Peter, because there are
alot of people involved here that I don’t want to hurt or offend and lot of
this stuff I have kept to myself. If you can just take it from me that this
hybrid entity was related, hence the communication in a way.


PW : Now as I understand it from the reading I’ve done through your book,
there’s more than one ET race that wants to get here?


AN : Oh for sure, I mean I have information that there are 20-30 ET races
making contact with the human race or with Governments or with individuals.
One of the more well known ones is the Zeta Recitular or the Greys, these
people I interacted with were not those. But they did know of that race at
lease and several others, they didn’t seem to be in party with them and they
were more inclined to go about their own business. They didn’t seem to be
interacting or being part of a universal group of ET's that you might have
heard.


PW : Now do all these ET races, are they all benign, do they all have good
things in store for us. Or are some of them hostile.


AN : I couldn’t comment on that really Peter, not accurately because I have
only met one particular race and it’s only of them that I can comment. But
they did warn me that many years ago like centuries or thousands of years
ago there was some form of a force that did interact with the human race and
did in some form took it over. But they weren’t really clear in the
identification of what that was, except that it was more like a mind control
force. Not something that you could see or comprehend in the physical - it
was a non physical entity if I may say that, and in some way could
manipulate human thought or mind process and actually lived off fear - or
the creation of fear and the creation of death and fear of death. But of
course I’ve never seen this entity either but perhaps we all live with it
every day, I’m only taking their word on that Peter.


PW : Let’s take some phone calls. Jeff from Florida, welcome to Coast to
Coast AM.


Jeff : Hello


PW : Yes Jeff, please speak up.


Jeff: Did you ever feel like you were in any danger from these aliens.


AN : No Jeff, these appeared to be a friendly benevolent race and they
actually took great care of me, I was almost a precious commodity to them, I
got the impression that if anything should befall me it would be a great
misadventure and they would take it personally.


PW : Melissa in Texas - go ahead to Alec Newald.


Melissa : Hi, I was wondering was there any purpose and did you maybe seek a
mate or something?


AN : You’re taking perhaps about interbreeding? The reason they choose me
was because of the was of the same genetic line as they were, Rhesus
Negative Bloodline and yes there was a hope that they could splice into my
genes, use some of my DNA if you like and create other stronger beings of
their own race because I actually was in a parallel bloodline.


PW : Well have to find out in a moment from you Alec whether they were
successful in this breeding program.


PW : Why have you gone so public with this? Whats pushing you to go so
public with this?


AN : To tell you the truth Peter, they wouldn’t let me rest, I had decided
along time ago when this first happened that I was going to keep it to
myself. Unfortunately some factions or some covert agency here in NZ - I don
’t particular know how they found out about it, I have a few ideas but we
can’t really go into it here as it’s too long winded, but I got visits from
what we call the DSIR here in New Zealand (the Department of Science and
Industrial Research), and they posed as DSIR Scientists and I believe
through further research they were not DSIR Scientists at all. They came
hunting me actually and wanted to know where I had been, they had some
photos of some odd things that had happened to the car that I had at the
time of this event occurred.


And the printed circuit board and the fuel injector system was a mirror
image of what it should have been. After I’d sold the car soon after this
event when I’d moved up to Auckland here in New Zealand, and somebody else
got hold of this car and it ended up in the hands of the DSIR or some
scientific bureau and through that some other agencies covert agencies got
wind of something unusual happening, whether they can track ET craft through
our atmosphere, or whatever happens to people when they have these
experiences - it brings back memories of the Men In Black and such stories
that have been around in UFOlogy for a long time, people have visits and
being warned off speaking of these events after it’s happened to them. Well
I got visits from two well dressed, dark suited men - one Englishman and one
New Zealander and they virtually wanted to know everything that had happened
to me.


PW : So they knew?


AN : Some covert agency had got hold of what had happened to me and they
virtually never let me rest for 8 years.


PW : Are they through with you now?


AN : They’re certainly through with me now Peter because I wouldn’t
cooperate with them, they actually framed me and put me in Jail.


PW : What!


AN : Basically I was a political prison in jail for six months in New
Zealand. Because I refused to cooperate with them. All this is real, I mean
you can’t make stuff like this up and my life was hell for the first 4 or 5
years, they threatened my life they sent some thugs around of my house, they
beat me up one night in front of the family while one of them stood over the
phone so they couldn’t call the police. Basically because I wouldn’t
cooperate they did threaten my life and those of my family - I had left my
family at the same instance as this happened and I never went back to my
family for fear that I would involved them in some form of death threat.


PW : Let’s takes some calls we’re going to go back to the phone lines.


PW : Stan in Chicago, welcome to Coast to Coast am.


Stan : I understand that you believe that the Governments are involved in
these phenomena, considering that the world right now is in a state of
geological change to you believe that the Governments know more and are
maybe in collusion with other governments involving these strange
experiences that people are having.


AN : Well I believe everything's timing Stan, and I do believe that the US
Government are on some sort of a standby or even on some threat to clean up
their act - it seems strange that I was told that that was what was
happening from ET sources and it’s strange that the same year I had my
interaction the Berlin Wall came down, the Cold War finished and everyone
wanted to be a peace maker and it seems from 1989 onwards alot of things
have changed in the political scene around the world, I mean I’m only
guessing as I don’t know what goes on behind government closed doors but
certainly you would agree that things have changed, even in Ireland there
seems to be a peace deal. Wars that have been going on for ages are suddenly
all drying up and everyone's trying to be friendly and you’d wonder why.













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PW : Well isn’t that good evolution for mankind?


AN : I believe thats a brilliant idea and if there’s a push from some
benevolent ET civilisation behind it, that might perhaps be a true sign that
these people are not the ogres and the little green men with the ray guns
that are depicted from Hollywood.


PW : Teresa in Tennessee


Teresa : Thankyou, hi Peter hi Alec. My question is when Alec when you were
abducted could you at any time touch these beings or could you see them, and
if so what did they look like, and how did you know when they contacted you
that they were there.


AN : Well after the first initial indoctrination or rebuilding of bodies
they were as physical as I could touch their bodies just like I could touch
you if you were in the same room as me. They were real and I knew they were
real and that made a difference to me.


PW : Joe in Vancouver BC


Joe : I wanted to relate some experiences that have been happening lately,
abductions, mine aren’t as heavy as Alecs are but I wanted to relate that
there is a war going on out there, an intergalactic war between good and
evil and that there may shortly be an event that might have something to do
with the Anti-Christ and that it is time that everyone as we prayer that we
pray globally and think of the global consciousness and the earth so that no
hard should come to us.


PW : What about this Alec, is that a intergalactic war going on between good
and evil?


AN : Your asking me Peter?


PW : I am Alec.


AN : I believe that there certainly is a war going on in our skies, in our
atmosphere. If you call if between good and evil I just wonder which is
which.


PW : So you have no idea.


AN : Oh I believe there is a war going on alright - I was told there is and
I’ve seen reports I’ve seen NASA shots of particle beams weapons being shot
from Australia into the atmosphere at glowing disk shaped craft which are
not normal space craft. I’ve seen evidence from earth that there’s something
going on and I’ve been told from the other side there’s something going on,
I have to believe it Peter.


PW : Alec are you still in touch with these Aliens now?


AN : Not physically Peter, from 1989 the direct contact was cut, actually if
we get time to get back to it later, there was alot of childhood
interactions that I didn’t fully understand at that stage so it wasn’t new
to me I just didn’t put it in the right context early on in my life.


PW : So since that meeting some 10 years ago, you’ve had no further contact
with the Aliens?


AN : Not that I’m physically aware of or can remember Peter.


PW : Do you think telepathically?


AN : I have to believe they had to help me write the book because I’ve never
ever written anything than a letter home in my life and yet I sat down one
day that book just flowed out of me and I don’t fully believe it was all my
own work.


PW : You know this is a fascinating story, and in his book he talks about
how he was told that these people told him, or these aliens told him that
homosapiens and Cro-Magnon species were artifically engineered and that
these ET’s that artifically engineered us are trying to get back to earth
but that the world governments are trying to stop them. Alec are all of us
artificially engineered by these ET’s according to what your belief is?


AN : I can’t really say for the overall human race Peter, I just know of
particular bloodlines that were generated for particular purposes but in the
research I’ve done since my own experience, if you want to count what I’ve
found out since then, it would appear that more than one extraterrestrial
race has had a go at playing with human engineering and genetics. So we
could well be a universal mixing pot more so than we ever believed, I mean I
don’t know of anybody that can really explain all the different races on
this planet anyway... black, yellow, white... they seem to be all different
and yet in many aspects the same, so maybe I’m not really qualified to
answer that question.


PW : You talk about spending this time with Zeena, you write about it, and
she says that evolution is you understand it is a myth, changes are never
slow and that they are always planned and later I shall show you that
nothing in this universe, past, present and future, in your timescale is
left to chance. Is she saying that we are predetermined and programmed?


AN : What I gathered from that Peter, was that perhaps evolution is a
universal step that runs rampant through all of existence and everything has
it’s time and everything moves up a scale according to it’s turn and perhaps
doesn’t happen haphazardly as the Darwinian theory suggests but it happens
in large steps and stages and it may well account for why there are no
missing links and there are gaps and there are unexplained evolutionary
steps on this planet that and even now geologists and scientists can not
explain. You’d think with all our advances in science and technology we’d be
able to find the missing link. There just appears to be steps through
evolutionary series of stages which does not just happen by accident but
happens on a grander scale that we can comprehend.


PW : Back to the phone lines. Ron of Atlanta.


Ron : Yes I was wondering through his experience and the Beings he’s in
contact with ever mentioned the Anunnaki - they were called Anunnaki by the
Sumerians.


AN : I’m fully versed with the Anunnaki as Zechariah Sitchin and Laurence
Gardner whom I mentioned before who has researched extensively in our past
ancient scripts and manuscripts that seem to have been left by most of our
modern day scholars alone as if they’re taboo. The Anunnaki would appear to
be one very advanced race of indeed genetic gene splicers. A group of people
that could manipulate entities and build a race of people it would seem from
the research I’ve done and Laurence Gardner’s done, the Anunnaki could well
be the ancient remnants of the group of people that I ran across. Hope that
helps you Ron.


PW : Right lets go to Scorpion in Idaho.


Scorpion : I just wanted to say to Alec, that you definitely have alot of
guts here coming out with these experiences, I’ve noticed alot of folks who
are starting to come out now with very similar experiences and the thing I
want to comment on, as far as the argument on evolution and so forth, I
think you’ll find that archaeological digs will just about prove at least to
some degree the statements that you’ve given as far as we not going through
the slow evolutionary process, because if you notice on alot of these digs
and so forth they find remains that show that there is not a continuous line
of procession over a long period of time. When like in the theory of
evolution it says it takes many thousands or millions of years to make minor
changes - where the evidence shows some of these changes for some reason are
major changes, probably not just in the human race but in many other races
on this planet. I would definitely comment that what you’ve given us seems
to be a very good descriptive picture and in at least some the archological
findings will even add some proof to that, at least a very strong argument.


PW : Right thanks for your call. Did you want to comment on that Alec.


AN : Just the fact that that was what I was told and I have to believe it
because I don’t think that earth science is able to disprove it.


PW : Did they not also say - did Zeena not also say about a dark force
having altered our DNA, or attempting to alter or DNA?


AN : Yes, and I can only sort of relate it back to that there is alot of new
age people around that are suggesting that the human race has 12 strands of
DNA when fully active and I believe we only have two now that are active, I’
m not quite up on that, but something happened that seemed to de-tune us in
our history at some stage, perhaps we were a greater race at some earlier
stage than we are now. I don’t know what truly happened to the human race
many many thousands of years ago, but something certainly seemed to switch
off.


PW : But what was this force? Was it a force of darkness?


AH: Well that would be a way to describe a negative force. Interestingly
enough in the same voice, in the same mood that she mentioned that they
altered our life and whether it’s negative or positive it’s part of creation
and you must respect it and to try and eliminate it because it’s a negative
force in human eyes you may well be fighting yourself, I think we’ve still
got alot to learn to life and recognise things that you don’t get along with
and things that you do, and perhaps when you recognise these forces they
loose their grip on you. In otherworlds don’t fear anything.


PW : Here’s Evelyn in Seattle - Welcome.


Evelyn : Hello, Hi Alec it’s good to talk with you, I just have a couple of
questions I’ll ask you then I’ll listen. Have they equipped you with any ear
or eye devices and if so does that cause you any irritation , and the other
question is are there any symbols or numbers that have strong meaning to
you?


AN : No bugs, no implants that I know of ... hopefully. I have had x-rays of
my scull when I got beaten up by those couple of thugs, but there was no
implants in there that showed up on the x-rays. As the to next questions
about special meaning for numbers.... No. 12 possibly in the human resonance
scale because I believe thats when these people are coming back to this
planet, when the earth goes through a human resonsnone level of 12.


PW : When does that happen??


AN : It could happen any time in the next 100 years, I believe the human
resonance used to resonate between at 7.8 and had done for 100’s and 100’s
of years or since recorded history with that scale, and within the last 30
years it’s been moving up the scale possibly to around about 11 now I
believe. We could be looking at something happening in the next 100 years.


PW : Jack welcome to Coast to Coast


Jack : Don’t these aliens look like locusts depicted in Revelation. I mean
if Revelation is true then this is actually going to take place.


AN : I’m not if the entities described in Revelations Jack. These ones weren
’t Insecoids, for sure they had cats eyes and they had white skin and they
were warm blooded just like you and I so, they were not Insecoids sorry
Jack.


PW : Bud


Bud : Good morning everyone worldwide, it’s very nice to listen to the
broadcast. I wanted to make two comments, ask Alec a question and then pose
a question. The WTO (World Tyrant Organization) wake up people! Second
comment - Mars, I don’t believe that we could blunder so bad. And the
question I want to ask Alec - why do you think you targeted you and how to
you think you’re being tracked now? And do you believe that they are of
religion origin or ET.


AW : No. 1 23 out of 31 Mars probes failed - thats less than a 30% strike
rate. You’ve got to worry about the technical side of NASA. Anyway, why me?
Very simple really, when I look back at my own health Peter and Bud I’ve
never had chicken pox, measles I’ve hardly ever had a sick day in my life,
it’s very strange, I’ve obviously got a very very super strong immune
system, I’ve vertically never even had a common cold, so something in my
genetic makeup which has made me quite a healthy individual just through
luck of birth obviously. That could be the key there in answer to that
question.


PW : Right in your book you talk about being abducted and taken to this
planet. Is the Planet pronounced Haven?


AN : Thats correct, although I should admit that people shouldn’t be sort of
confused by the name of anything thats written in the book because they don’
t have words that would relate to earthly words and what I’ve done is just
used an appromation to something that is rather a resonance or a colour.


PW : Sounds alot like Heaven doesn’t it? It’s just one letter off Heaven isn
’t it?


AN : Well Haven is related to a “safe haven” home, territory or homeland. So
Haven is a very apt description to what was to them their home base.


PW : Well describe to us just what that planet was like?


AN : Very briefly Peter. It seemed to be about the size of our moon, I
couldn’t see any stars in the sky at night and yet the sky at night was
black both day and night. There seemed to be some sort of a force field or
some sort of a network or grid in the atmosphere that seemed to pulse, so
maybe I wasn’t able to see directly out into space, but I could see what was
pretty obviously a sun - the sun was reddish in colour, very very potent -
in fact we had to wear very shopficitaced anti-radiation suits if we ever
went outside which were a sort of a yellow-gold reflective skin suit really,
nothing more than a skin suit but these were very very high tech, so it was
a hostile environment - like being in the middle of a desert.


PW : No vegetation?


AN : Very little, very stumpy, stunted growth - nothing that we’d call trees
and nothing that you’d say was green. All the vegetation of what I saw was
in-house or under cover.


PW : Any animals or insects?


AN : No other life whatsoever Peter. It was very strange because there was
no sound, wherever I was there was no sound and of course they didn’t
communicate by sound. We were discussing telepath tic which was really a
colour resonance harmonic... is the word.


PW : Any children?


AN : Yes, there were younger Beings, or younger entities - they were small
anyway, the statue of this race would be about 5 foot tall. That would be
the tallest.


PW : Right we’ll take some more calls, Tony welcome to Coast to Coast am.


Tony: You say that these entities were from past and future correct?


AN : They were time travellers Tony so yes that is correct.


Tony: Did they mention to you on what is going to happen from then and to
wherever they’d at now. And did they tell you what is going to happen with
your future.


AN : They certainly explained what I could expect on an evolutionary step,
we did touch a little on that earlier on, on evolution, and that is one of
the reasons I incorporated that name into the Book was because definitely
the earth is going to go through some sort of phase change, that would be
the best way to describe it and I was mentioning before about the human
resonsense of the planet. The planet beats to a pulse, it has a resonsense
and that resonsense was on a 7.8, it’s now I believe near 11. And I believe
their planet pulsed a rate of around about 12. Now this is on a arch scale
of nature, the next step up from 8 would be 13 and I’m calling 7.8, the
human resonse close enough to 8, and I do believe we’re moving up to the
next sequence which is 13. And we’re going to pass through 12 on the way up,
now this is. Now this is another evolutionary phase change where we could
well see a different group of life form on this planet. Whether we can take
that step up ourselves or whether we become eliminated or waste products
along the way I do not know. These people seemed to suggest that the human
race would survive the next phase change. And we would have a planet at a
different frequency, different density and so would we be, thats a pretty
exciting sort of step and the key to it is it’s in the next 100 years so
there is a good chance alot of us alive now are going to see this happen.


PW : When the Government agents came after you in New Zealand, and you said
they continually harassed you, and you weren’t cooperating. Were you ever
concerned that they might try to get you certified as insane and commit you.


AN : Well when they finally locked me up Peter, and sent me to jail, I didn’
t think I was going to come out. I did think that was just an excuse to get
me away somewhere, away from the public eye. I mean accidents can happen in
Jail very easily, fights, knives whatever and I thought I’d been set up. But
in actual fact they interrogated me while I was in jail quite severely. I
even met a gentleman from S.A, well he had a SA Accent and he was sent to
integorate me and it’s interesting to note that many years later when I was
researching UFO events, there was a major UFO scare in SA in 1989, the same
year, in which a craft was believed to have been shot down by a SA air force
plane which crashed in the desert there in SA. And they were believed to
have recovered some ET bodies and a craft from that and were shipped to
America. And it’s strange that the markings that were shown to be by this
gentleman with a SA accent were very very similar to what I’d seen myself -
and if they expected me to be able to read and identify these markings for
them, they seemed to think I’d know where they came from and what they
meant.


PW : Lets to to CJ, Welcome to Coast to Coast AM


CJ : Hi Peter, I just wanted to comment you as a guest host you’ve done
great! My question is to Alec, is he familiar with the Philly Experiment.


AN : Yes I am.


CJ: Is there anything familiar in that to what he experienced in his life?


AN : No, not to any great degree.


CJ: Have you read the book?


AN : The Philly Experiment?


CJ : Yes.


AN : Yes I’m familiar with that. I just realise that time travel is not so
far away from the human race as what we’ve been led to believe in fact I
think it’s all a crock that we’ve been fed about the state of our technology
and I think HG Wells probably had it far more on the nose than alot of
modern science.


PW : Sorry we’ll have to let it go there CJ. Right Alec whats the one thing
you want to get across to people, whats the big thing.


AN : I don’t think we’re getting a fair deal Peter, I don’t think the powers
that be are letting all out that they know, I think we’re being controlled
by Big Business for big money, and I think we’re kept dumber than dumb for
reasons best known to them, we’re being milked like cows quite honestly and
I think it’s about time the human race took back the planet from the people
that are running it and I think give back the power to the people Peter, the
consumer always has the last say and I’d like people to think about that.
You get what you pay for and if you stop buying it they’ll stop giving it to
you, so maybe we should just wake up!!


PW : Well thats pretty earthly what you’ve just said. But the reason you
wrote the book was because you have contact with ET’s. So what are they
saying, what is the message they wanted you to bring back to earth.


AN : They’re coming back, they want to interact, the people that are running
this country don’t want them here. I think that the people who are running
the country hasn’t been asked... I mean the people that live in the
countries, you and I, haven’t been asked because we don’t know. We’re not
being told and you’re got to wonder why we’re not being told.


PW : Wouldn’t it be difficult to cover-up such a big story though?


AN : Oh I don’t know Peter, I think the technology we’ve got on this planet
could run everything from a kitchen sink full of water and they’ve kept that
pretty quiet, they’re pretty cleaver these people, alot cleaver than the
average guy in the street - I just don’t think we give them enough credit
for it, they can keep things quiet when they really want to and they’re
keeping this one very quiet.


PW : Now you would welcome these ET’s back, you want them back here on earth
right?


AN : I’ve had an interaction with them Peter and I can only go on what I
know and I hope they were up front with me - I mean maybe I’m not cleaver
enough to see through a lie.... well I’ve seen through the earth lies from
earth governments, but maybe they’re to cleaver for me. But if they’re
honest and genuine surely something in the universe is honest and genuine
Peter and if they are I would have no fear from them whatsoever, I fear my
own Government more than I fear them and I can absolutely guarantee you
that.


PW : So what do you think they would bring.


AN : They would bring a life style that would maybe clear us out of this
muck, but it’s still up to us to use it, they don’t seem to want to control
us or run us, they would offer us a gift, a gift to live a clean and healthy
life. I mean too many children are dying Peter, to many people are dying on
this planet for reasons on contamination and chemical poisoning that doesn’t
need to be there, it’s just money. Money speaks and I think we need to look
at life style before money. It’s a shame that people won’t but maybe we have
to take a step back before we can take a step forward.


PW : So these Aliens would be able to help us deal with our pollution? AN :
Well they’ve already given us technology to do that Peter. But the people
they gave it too weren’t trustworthy enough and goodness knows where it’s
lying now in some cave in the Nevada desert somewhere in Area 51 or
something like that. It’s either been stockpiled away or it’s being used for
miliary purposes - it’s use could be turned around and used for something
evil no doubt, use it as military controllers would do, use it to destroy
human race instead keeping it alive.


PW : The Book is called Co-Evolution, published by Adventures Unlimited.
Alec thank you so much for being with us today.


AN : It’s an honour Peter, thank you very very much for giving me the
opportunity say a few words.
















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