========
Newsgroups: alt.human-brain,alt.mindcontrol,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,soc.rights.human
Subject: Re: freedom of privacy and thoughts
From: caesar@brahms.udel.edu (Johnny Chien-Min Yu)
Date: 11 Dec 1995 18:06:44 -0500

Dear Readers,

         A readers ask me to re-post my original entires article (See
attachment after the slected article).   I would like to do it.
However, my original article's information has been increased and
extented to almost 100 page.  If I post it, it will use huge space on
Internet.   So I will select part of my article to re-post.

    The below is the selected article.
===================================================

    The Function Of The ELF In EMR Mind Machine or Mind Control Technique
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    Since the EMR mind machine had been invented in 1973, reading human
mind from a distance has become a fact and reality (please see my previous
article "Building the general consenus about the functions of the EMR
Mind Machine")

   In addition to reading the mind, the operators of EMR mind machine also
have the capabilities to deliever microwave voices to drive people mad,
or use the microwave voice to deliever instruction to their conspirators
who have surrounded the subjects to help driving the subjects mad.  It
can also be used to focused radio waves to hypnotize people and deliever
subliminal messages to the subject in dream by microwave voices or
induced artificial dreams by visual brain waves ( "fax" photo into the
subject's mind--- using the computer to translates pictures and images
into brain waves then send the ELF to target).   Furthermore, I do believe
that US civilians have lost their privacy & thoughts to the operators of
EMR mind machine (in the society) for a long time.

   Then, what is the function of ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) in EMR mind
machine & what is the special application of it?

     I would like to show you the information as below, before I express my
own opinion to it.

======
  The ESB's great potential for mind control:

     In the research of Dr. Jose Delgado, he showed us the ESB's
(Electrical Stimulation of Brain through wires) great potential for mind
control through the test.

   "The tested animal performed the same activity as many times as they
getting the same signal which was stimulated with.    Even these animal
was carrying out the electrical imperative, they can still avoid danger
or threat.

   Compare with other signal which made monkeys turn their heads, or even
smile.    It showed that. ----The monkey would do the exact same action
which the researcher expected, when they got the signal and no matter what
the monkey was doing.

     The final conclusion of Dr. Delgado was that:  "The animals just
looked like electronic toys." ("The Body Electric"-Dr. Robert Becker)

Some research show that the instincts and emotions can be changed whenever
signal was given by stimulating the pleasure and pain centers in the
person's (or animal's) limbic system.

   The above information proves the ESB can be used to change the
behaviors and the emotion of human.  If you consider the following
information, you will believe that ESB produced artifical mood and
behavior in a forceful manner. --(the comment of writer)

"I guess, Doctor, your electricity is stronger than my will. --quote from
an experimental patient in physical control of the mind by Dr. Jose Delgado."

   That's because the brain controls the whole body and all mental
activities, ESB could possibly became a master control of human behavior
by meamns of man-made plans and instruments.  (Cross currents--Dr. Becker)

      Dr. Becker concludes that:  All evidences show that through a
device to monitor the thoughts or mind state of the subjects and the
combination of radio-frequency and microwaves broadcast to generate
specific thoughts or moods, it is possible to produce a mind control
machine that would threaten civil liberties as we know it.

      Also, all of the scientists involved in mind control research all
sense that such type of mind control machine can be produced right now
(1970s).
       ( See "The Body Electric")

  Other researchers had the similar idea that focused EMR beam of high
accuracy would have same effect on human minds as electrical stimulation of
the brain (ESB) through wires.

   Since the mid-1970s, Delgado has shifted his interest from direct
electrical stimulation of the brain (ESB) to the broader area of the
biological effects of electromagnetic field. (Cross Currents- Dr. Rebert
Becker)

   Dr. Delgado has studied the infulence of specific frequencies of
magnetic field on the behavior and emotions of monkeys (without using any
implanted electrodes or radio receivers).   Using very low-strength ELF
magnetic field, he could produce sleep or manic behavior in monkeys.
Also he could use the ELF magnetic field to change effects from using
the ESB to animal's emotions center.  Dr. Delgado noted that "the
eletrical currents produced within the brain by exposure to such field
were hundreds of times lower in intensity than those require to ESB".
(page 225 Cross Currents--Robert Becker)
==================

  The above information tell us that since the mid-1970s, Dr. Degaldo has
shifted his interest from ESB to biologic effect of electromagnetic field (
ELF).   Why?!

    Do you have any logical answer to this question?

  However, I have a logical answer as beloew to the question.
 This only prove that EMR mind machine should have been invented in
1973, so since the mid-1970s, researchers of mind control would shift
their research method to the electromagnetic waves in order to influence
people without physical contact.

  Also the above information prove that the ELF can be used to replace the
function of ESB.  It means that the ELF can be used to force man-made
behaviors or emotions onto the target (subject).  This function is
very different with the function of simply reading the human mind.

  The normal human brain waves frequencies is at about the same
frequencies at that of ELF, so scientists have speculated that
transmitting strong signals at these frequencies (man-made ELF) might
interfere with the natural brain activities of people in the targeted
area.  According to the above experiment and the results, the assumption
is correct.

What's the difference between the function of reading human mind & changing
the human behavior by ELF?

   The strong singals of ELF can be used to forcibly to change human
behaviors as ESB (by overriding the electric signals produced by the
brain and replace in its place the man-made signals).  The normal
thoughts of the target (human beings) is suppressed, and then change the
people's behaviors, emotions, and even one's will.

   In the case of the reading minds, the brain waves of the target
(human) is collected and translated into words or pictures by CPU
(computer).   Then, these words or pictures are sent to a monitor for the
operators of these machine to view (thereby, reading the thoughts of the
subject).

  So, the ELF of mind machine is used to change human mood, behavior or
will.  The human brain waves pattern collected by the mind machine is
only used to read the mind of the subject and determine state of the
mind of the subject.

   The waves which is used to collect the human brain waves should be a kind
of plain carrier waves (without carrying any meaning).   Also this plain
waves should carry a fixed low frequency as ELF, but its singals should be
more weaker than human brain waves in order to graft the human brain
waves onto the carrier waves (This plain wave is weaker than human brain
waves in order to avoid to supress the original human thoughts).  Also,
since this is a plain carrier waves (without carrying any meaning), it
could avoid the human brain to respond to it.  In this manner, the
collected human brain waves will reflects the original thoughts of
subject (as it is), then these carrier waves (now, with the thoughts
encoded on it) is collected and send it to CPU (computer) to be translated.

This kind of process is that the target's human brain waves suppress the
passing plain waves (weaker waves) and change the plain thoughts waves as
its (human brain waves) own thoughts ( leaves marks on it like a pen would
leave marks on a paper).   Actually, It's like to print words on a plain
paper.

  Now let's see the West German scientists' report from the original
article ( New world order & ELF Psychotronic Tranny).

================================
The June-July, 1989 issue of the West German scientist publication,
RAUM & ZEIT carried an article by Dr. W. Volkrodt, titled:

 "Can Human Beings Be manipulated By ELF Waves?"
 ------------------------------------------------
   The article stated: "The technical principal of receivers for
electromagnetic waves is fully analogous with biological information and
communications systems. If several thousand of the hundreds of billions
of nerve cells in our brain resonate with man-made centimeter waves, the
carrier frequency has to be suppressed when the signal is passed on to
the synapses."

  "To overcome cell membranes, living organisms use electrochemical
processes involving sodium and potassium ions. This suppresses the
carrier frequency in the high-frequency range just as the demodulation
circuit does in man-made receivers. What remains is the signal impressed
on the carrier frequency, e.g. in the low frequency ELF range. This is
also the frequency range at which our own nervous system normally works."

"Using these frequencies, the nerve fibers convey pain sensations, the
feeling of hungry, tiredness, nausea, and signals on the sense of balance
to points in the brain which invoke these stages in a awake consciousness."

"IF INTERFERENCE SIGNALS ARE SUPERIMPOSE ON THE NATURAL SIGNALS GENERATED
BY THE BODY, E.G. BY USING ARTIFICIALLY CREATED CENTIMETER WAVES AS A
CARRIER, THE BRAIN COULD BE PRESENTED WITH SIMULATED STATES THAT WE
CONSCIOUSLY PERCEIVE, BUT WHICH DO NOT REALITY "

"A state of disturbed sense of balance, which seems to us to be real, is
enough to stop people from being able to run or make them feel dizzy even
when they are lying down."

"IN A 'PSYCHOTRONIC WAR' USING MICROWAVES MODULATED USING ELF WAVES, it
would no longer be necessary to kill whole armies by inducing cardiac or
respiratory irregular signals.   The enemy can simply be incapacitated by
disturbing their states of balance or CONFUSING THE ABILITY TO THINK
LOGICALLY. ...The manipulation of human beings, by means of ELF waves is
relatively easy to perform."
======================
  The above information prove that ELF can be used to supress the target's
thoughts & replace a man-made behavior (or will).  Also the target (subject)
might would still believe this will is his/her own.  It mean that the human
being indeed can be manipulated by ELF.

Now Let's see more evidences as below:

=====

The opinion of US scientist:

  Ron McRae's 1984 book, MIND WARS, described research in the 1970's at
the Stanford Research Institute on the subject of ELF and mind control.

"BECAUSE THE HUMAN BRAIN GENERATES ELECTRICAL SIGNALS IN THE SAME ELF
FREQUENCIES, SCIENTIST SPECULATE THAT TRANSMITTING STRONG SIGNALS IN
THESE FREQUENCIES MIGHT INTERFERE WITH THE NATURAL BRAIN ACTIVITY OF
PERSONS IN THE TARGET AREA, PRODUCING EFFECTS RANGING FROM HYPERTENSION
TO SUDDEN DEATH."

MaRae continued: " Initial results coming out of laboratories in the
United States and Canada (show) that certain amplitude and frequency
combinations of external electromagnetic radiation in the brain-wave
frequency STIMULATING HIGHER-LEVEL NEURONAL STRUCTURES IN THE BRAIN.

This electronic stimulation is known to produce mental changes at a
distance,...Because the power levels are so low, the brain COULD MISTAKE
THE OUTSIDE SIGNAL FOR ITS OWN, MIMIC IT (A PROCESS KNOWN AS BIOELECTIC
ENTRAINMENT), AND RESPOND WHEN IT CHANGES."

  In 1983 there was a public meeting at Loma Linda Va hospital and
released photos, information concerning a Russian Lida machine.
  This small transmitter could emitted 10-hertz waves for tranquilization
& more better suggestibility.   Such similar machine had been used to POW in
Korea. ( The above information prove that Russia used the same idea --the
ELF of eletromagnetic radiation waves as the mind machine tool.)

The collected information from Soviet:

In the 1950's, Nikolia Khokhlov, a Soviet KGB agent defected to the West.
In 1976, Khokhlov was asked by the U.S. Government to prepare a report on
secret Soviet parapsychology centers. He interviewed a number of
scientists who had recently left the Soviet Union. The 2\5\83 issue of
THE SPECTATOR reported -

Khokhlov stated: Soviet psychotronic (ELF) weapons "ARE ABLE TO JAM SOMEONE'S
THINKING IN THE SAME WAY THAT YOU CAN JAM THE SIGNALS COMING IN FROM A
RADIO TRANSMITTER. In simple terms, it means that YOU CAN SCRAMBLE
ANYONE'S THINKING PROCESS AND CAN PLANT FEAR AND CONFUSION AT WILL IN
THAT PERSON."
Khokhlov reported that these KGB devices could turn a senior officer
"into a traitor" to his own country.
(Both information see New World Order ELF Tranny--C.B. Baker)

===================

 The above information prove that the ELF can be used to supress
target (people) thoughts & replace the man-made will or emotion.

   The US information also proves that US & Canada have researched mind
control technologies with ELF in 1970s.  It prove that their research
way are correct & as same as the Russian which has invented the mind
machine & used its mind control techniques on the American POW in Korea War.

    This further proves that EMR mind machine should have been already
invented in the US for a long time ( in 1973).  This is because the research
conducted have already moved passed just simply reading the human
thoughts.  The researches have advanced to further change human mind and
behaviors since 1970s.

Why they try to develope the ELF or psychotronic weapon in US?

  According to Col. John Alexander, a expert of psychotronic weapon of
US, he explain that:

 The radiation waves of psychotronic weapon can be transmitted over
distances, thus inducing illness or death for no apparent reason.  "These
weapons would be able to induce illness or death at little or no risk to
the operator. ...The psychotronic weapon would be silent (and) difficult
to detect..."

 He then discussed the Soviet use of extremely low frequency (ELF)
electromagnetic weapons against humans in the U.S. Embassy in Moscow.

Such kind idea is obvious indication of preparation of using these
weapons in covert actions to achieve illegal goals.

  The following information prove US not only developed the psychotronic
weapon, but also purchase these kind weapon from Russia.  The final
evidence shows that these kind weapon will be mostly used on the US
civilians.

==========================
The 3\23\94 WASHINGTON POST reported: "The Pentagon and the Justice
Department have agreed to share state-of-the-art military technology with
civilian law enforcement agencies, including exotic 'non-lethal'weapons."

In March, 1993, the National Institute of Justice [NIJ]--(an office of
Janet Reno's Justice Department), issued a report titled: "NIJ Initiative
On Less-Than-Lethal Weapons." The Department is now encouraging local
and state police organizations to utilize Soviet-KGB psychotronic,
electromagnetic and mind control weapons against their local citizenry.
Targets for these KGB weapons include "domestic disturbances" meaning
that mind-control devices are even to be utilized against family
arguments.

The reports stated: "Short-term research will be completed TO ADOPT
MILITARY TECHNOLOGIES TO USE BY DOMESTIC LAW ENFORCEMENT...including
LASER, MICROWAVE, AND ELECTROMAGNETIC" WEAPONS.

The Justice Department is preparing to use these non-lethal psychotronic
weapons for "search warrent RAIDS." A 1994 Congressional report

NEXUS MAGAZINE stated: "Reports recently appeared that the FBI deployed
the weapon against David Koresh" during the siege at Waco. This type of
psychotronic weapon was able to confuse and plant false messages into the
targeted victims. Videos of the Branch Dividian compound, made during the
siege, showed a small microwave dish (used for TRANSMISSION) setting a top
a portable pole, POINTED DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE MAIN BUILDING IN THE
COMPOUND.

The 7\93 issue of DEFENSE ELECTRONICS discussed the FBI's use of Soviet
KGB psychotronic devices against the Branch Dividians at Waco, Texas.
There is strong evidence that such weapons were used. After the Feds
launched their mass-murdering, flame-throwing attack, some members of
David Koresh's church attempted to flee the burning building, but soon as
they got outside, they suddenly turned around and ran back INTO the
fire--which demonstrated an extreme mental disorientation of the type
created by psychotronic mind control weapons. The few victims who
survived the fire were visibly confused and unable to talk coherently or
move.

Prior to the massacre, the Feds targeted the church building with a night
and day acoustical barrage (that included the sounds of dying animals and
low frequency sound devices). The Feds also utilized a super-strobe light
show (pulsed at ELF frequencies).

The Feds appear to have also utilized psychotronic mind-zapping weapons
against the Montana-based Church Universal and Triumphant.

8\22\94 NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE reported on a secret Arlington, Virginia
meeting between experts from the FBI's  Counter-Terrorism Center and Dr.
Smirnov, whose work was described in the publication: "...Using
electroencephalographs, Smirnov measures brain waves, then uses computers
to CREATE A MAP OF THE SUBCONSCIOUS AND VARIOUS HUMAN IMPULSES, such as
anger or the sex drive.  Then through taped SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES, he claims
to physically alter the landscape with the power of suggestion."

( New world Order ELF Tyranny--by C. B. Baker.)
==================

  If the above information are all true, then the act of NIJ encourage
the Law enforcement to use the Nonlethal weapon (include the ELF
psychotronic weapon) & mind machine on civilians will be considered as
disaster for our society.   That's because their bad intention has been
revealed by Col. John Alexander's words--These weapons would be able to
induce illness or death at little or no risk to operators....it (use the
sound-less, invisible radiation waves) will be silent & difficult to detect.

   The above situation will threaten our society because they could do
any illegal thing (or even to get rid of any civilian), then avoid to be
held responsible by law.   The most important (or interested) question is
that whom will these weapons be used on by the local police organization?
(Since the NIJ encourage the local & state police organization to use
mind machine & nonlethal weapon--see above)

  Also, do they really need to use these nonlethal weapons or mind machines
on civilian?  What is the real reason to use non-lethal weapons or mind
machine?  The only reason of using the mind machine should be for
reading people's thoughts.  Furthermore, they would use these Nonlethal
weapon to silent these people who are aware of thoughts reading function
of Mind Machine in order to keep this function as a top secret.

   I do believe that if above reports are all truth, then it only prove
that they have built the EMR mind machine surviliance system in entire
nation for a long time.  However, right now, they are trying to slowly
inform the society of these facts with other excuse.  This is because if
the publics is suddenly to find out about the truth, there might be a
strong public outlash.  Right now, they are using the excuse that they
are building a mind machine system in order to use the Russian mind
machines and psychotronic weapons.

(The real reason might be that the Mind machine & the mind control
techniques has attracted the attention of the general public since the
EMR mind machine system and other surveilance technologies has been exposed
by many researchers and my articles in the past year)

  What kind of ELF we already have in our US society? Also what's kind job
it can do?

   To answer the above question, I think that let the original article
( which had collected scientist's opinion & scientific evidences) to show
the facts is the best way.   So I would like to show you the below excerpt
(information).

========================
Zbigniew Brzezinski, the founding director of David Rockefeller's
Trilateral Commission, also served as President Jimmy Carter's National
Security Director, where he founded the infamous FEMA (Federal Emergency
Management Agency) that is designed to implement world government
dictatorial rules over the U.S.A.

     Brzezinski predicted the exact types of electromagnetic psychotronic
weapons that the Clinton Adminstration is now obtaining for mass behavior
control of U.S. citizens.

He stated: "It is possible--and TEMPTING--to exploit, for strategic-political
purposes, the fruits of research on the brain and on human behavior.
...Accurately timed, artificially excited electronic strokes" (such as
those created by the Soviet ELF Woodpecker, the U.S. GWEN tower VLF
network and U.S. H.A.R.R.P.-style ELF transmitters) "could lead to a
pattern of oscillations that produce relatively high power levels over
certain regions of the earth. ...In this way, one could develop a system
that would SERIOUSLY IMPAIR THE BRAIN PERFORMANCE OF A VERY LARGE
POPULATION IN SELECTED REGIONS, OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD."

  ELECTROMAGNETIC TELEPATHIC INFLUENCE

 GS> Dr. Peter Beter warned us about this in the 70's.

The terrible effects of the KGB psychotronic devices, now being supplied
to the Clinton Regime, were publicized in the 1970's.  A 1975 issue of the
Soviet publication INTERNATIONAL LIFE, discussing electronic mind
control developments, stated that atmospheric electricity can be used "TO
SUPPRESS THE MENTAL ACTIVITY" of large groups of people.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  In 1977, the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) declassified a report
describing how vast advances in Soviet psychotronic technology can create

   THE ULTIMATE BIG BROTHER SOCIETY, BY USING ELECTRONIC MIND CONTROL
AGAINST POPULATIONS TO IMPLANT IDEAS AND THOUGHTS INTO THE HEADS OF
UNSUSPECTING VICTIMS: "SOUNDS AND POSSIBLY EVEN WORDS, WHICH APPEAR TO BE
ORIGINATING INTRACRANIALLY (WITHIN ONE'S OWN HEAD), CAN BE INDUCED BY
SIGNAL MODIFICATION AT VERY LOW AVERAGE POWER DENSITIES" (VLF & ELF).

   The DIA report also said that the Soviets discovered that secret
microwave radiation can be used to induce in unsuspecting victims:
"headache, fatigue, perspiring, dizziness, menstrual disorders,
irritability, agitation, tension, drowsiness, sleeplessness,
depression, anxiety, forgetfulness, and the lack of concentration."

NEXUS reported on the U.S. development of "High Powered Microwave (HPM)
Projectiles." The U.S. Government has already obtained "a portable
microwave weapon."

The 4\94 SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN reported that Janet E. Morris and her
husband Christopher C. Morris "have been involved in promoting a
'psycho-correction' technology, developed by a Russian scientist, that is
INTENDED TO INFLUENCE BY MEANS OF SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES EMBEDDED IN SOUND
OR VISUAL IMAGES."
  (It should be the Russian infrasound mind machine--See June 1993
the "Lobster" magazine of UK)
    In 1993, "the Morrises organized a meeting in which the technology
was demonstrated for U.S. scientists and officials by its Russian inventor."
  Morris reported that this particular weapon creates "BONE-CONDUCTING
SOUND WAVES that cannot be offset by protective gear These devices appear
to work at the Very Low Frequency (VLF) spectrum, the same frequency
range as generated by the sinister U.S. Gwen (Ground Wave Emergency
Network) system of transmitters.

   The GWEN towers transmit electromagnetic waves in the VLF range between
150 and 175 Khz. Dr. Becker reported, "The VLF range was selected because
its signals travel by means of ground waves--electromagnetic fields that
hug the ground--rather than radiating into the atmosphere. The signals
drop off with distance, and a single GWEN station transmits to a
360-degree circle radiating out from it to a distance of about 250 to 300
miles."

In CROSSCURRENTS, Dr, Becker stated: "GWEN is a superb systems,in
combination with cyclotron resonance" (the type of system utilized in
the new H.A.R.R.P. ELF transmitters), "FOR PRODUCING BEHAVIORAL
ALTERATIONS IN THE CIVILIAN POPULATION. The average strength of the
steady geomagnetic field varies from place to place across the United
States. Therefore, IF ONE WISHED TO RESONATE A SPECIFIC ION IN LIVING
THINGS IN A SPECIFIC LOCALITY, one would require A SPECIFIC FREQUENCY FOR
THAT LOCATION. The spacing of GWEN transmitters 200 miles apart across
the United States would allow such specific frequencies to be 'TAILORED
TO THE GEOMAGNETIC FIELD STRENGTH IN EACH AREA."

Dr. Frank Barnaby, Director of the Stockholm Peace Research Institute,
stated: 'If methods could be devised to produce greater field strengths
of such low-frequency oscillations,...by artificial means, then it might
become possible to IMPAIR THE PERFORMANCE OF A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE IN
SELECTED REGIONS OVER EXTENDED PERIODS.'"

In his earlier 1980 article, "The New Mental Battlefield," the Federal
Government's "non-lethal" psychotronics weapons tsar, Col. John B.
Alexander wrote: "Mind-altering techniques, designed to impact on an
opponent are well-advanced. ...Researchers suggest that CERTAIN LOW
FREQUENCY EMISSIONS POSSESS PSYCHOACTIVE CHARACTERISTICS. THESE (ELF &
VLF) TRANSMISSIONS CAN BE USED TO INDUCED DEPRESSION OR IRRITABILITY IN A
TARGET POPULATION."
  NEXUS reported: "Morris seeks to
establish a doctrine for the use of non-lethal weapons by the U.S. in
crisis 'AT HOME' " (MEANING USE AGAINST AMERICAN CIVILIANS) " 'or abroad'
..........................
Morris described so-called "Non-Lethal electromagnetic technologies."
These technologies are already being directed against American citizens
in the GWEN system, in various ELF transmitters inside the U.S.A., and in
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
secret collaboration with the Russians in electromagnetic weather-engineering.
  (New World Order psychtronic Tranny--by C. B. Baker)
===================

  The above information & scientists opinion all prove that the GWEN
tower VLF network & the ELF transmitters of the H.A.R.R.P. system
of US can be developed into a special system to use it (ELF & VLF) to the
large area or population.

   These ELF or VLF can be abused to induce man-made will or emotion
(such as depression) to the large population in a target area.

   The most terrible thing is that the vairous transmitters of
above system (inside the US) have been used as the NONLETHAL WEAPON to
get rid of any civilian.


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
  Alan Yu

  Do you really know yourself?

  Only the truth will triumph over deception and last forever.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


(attachment)
--------------------------------
>From kestern@terra.igcom.netSun Dec 10 04:02:46 1995
>Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 20:27:25 -0600 (CST)
>From: Kevin Stern 
>To: caesar@udel.edu

>       Please email or reprint your original entries to the newsgroup,
>we're fairly new to it.
                                        Thank you
                                        kestern@terra.icom.net