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Msg#: 418 Date: 09-22-93 11:27
From: Sheppard Gordon Read: Yes Replied: No
To: All Mark: Save
Subj: Manipulative Groups
Manipulative Groups
RECOGNIZING DESTRUCTIVE AND MANIPULATIVE GROUPS
By Al Seckel
"When you meet the friendliest people you have ever known, who
introduce you to the most loving group of people you've ever
encountered, and you find the leader to be the most inspired,
caring, compassionate and understanding person you've ever met,
and then you learn that the cause of the group is something you
never dared hope could be accomplished, and all of this sounds
too good to be true it probably is too good to be true! Don't
give up your education, your hopes and ambitions, to follow a
rainbow."-Jeanne Mills, former member of the People's Temple and
subsequent victim of assassination a year following the November
18, 1978 Jonestown suicides/murders of 911 adults and children.
In the United States alone, according the latest estimates,
there exist over 2500 destructive and manipulative groups, which
fall into four separate and sometimes overlapping categories:
1. Religious, i.e., Children of God, Unification Church, etc.
2. Self-Awareness/Personal Development (Pseudo-Therapy), i.e.,
Scientology (Dianetics), EST, Lifespring, etc.
3. Political groups, i.e., Lyndon LaRouche, The Order, etc.
4. Commercial Pyrimid Enterprises and "Training" Seminars, i.e,
Amway, Herbal Life, Union Circulation Company
On the surface, many destructive groups seem to offer:
A. A strong feeling of community.
B. A sense of purpose
C. Spiritual fulfillment
D. Esoteric knowledge.
E. Wealth
A group can be deviant or even heretical WITHOUT being
destructive. And a group can also be destructive without holding
particularly unusual beliefs. Destructive groups are not
interested in helping you, but in helping themselves. Their
hidden agenda reveals that they only want your free, fulltime,
and lifetime commitment as a recruiter and fund raiser.
It is important, therefore, to learn how to tell if a group
employs manipulation and deception, is exclusive, psychologically
or financially exploitative, totalitarian, and disruptive to
families, friends and society.
A good way to begin is by realizing that the two basic
principles of psychological coercion are:
1. If you can make a person BEHAVE the way you want, you can make
that person BELIEVE the way you want.
2. Sudden, drastic changes in environment lead to heightened
suggestibilty and to drastic changes in attitudes and beliefs.
Any of the following are characteristics of destructive groups,
sometimes not apparent in the first stages of indoctrination.
IMMEDIACY: You are pressured into making important decisions
right away.
CHARISMATIC LEADERSHIP - A leader who claims divinity or special
knowledge and demands your absolute obedience with power.
DECEPTION - Recruiting and fundraising with hidden objectives,
use of "front groups" with innocent sounding names. Followers
are secretive or vague about their activities and beliefs.
ALIENATION - Groups that try to separate members from their
family, friends and society, with a sudden change in values and
substitution of the group as the new "family."
FATIGUE - Result of extended classes and/or training sessions,
long working hours, and repetition of hypnotic practices
(meditating, pseudo-speaking in tongues and chanting).
LACK OF PRIVACY - Interference with private contemplation and
independent thought -inhibiting the ability to question.
EXPLOTATION - Financially, physically and mentally (including
relinquishing goods and assets to the group, lack of fringe
benefits, sexual abuse, child abuse, punishment and the use of
fear and guilt).
TOTALITARIAN - The members of the group are always expected to
think, feel, and act in a manner prescribed by the group.
MYSTICAL MANIPULATION - Use by the leader of staged "miraculous"
or "psychic" powers to impress disciples of his special divinity.
NEED FOR PURITY: Convincing the subject of his former impurity
(before joining the group) and the necessity of becominig pure or
perfect as defined by the group.
CONFESSION: Getting the subject to openly discuss their innermost
fears, anxieties, and deepest secrets.
LOADING THE LANGUAGE: Creating new words with special meanings
understood only by members of the group, or by giving new and
special meanings to familiar words and phrases.
DISPENSING OF EXISTENCE: Teaching the subject that all those who
disagree with the philosophy of the group are doomed, liars, or
agents of Satan.
EXCLUSIVENESS - The group claims or implies that they have the
only right answer to a specific question or problem.
RULES: The group requires strict adherence to trivial rules.
If you are asked to join a group that has any of the above
characteristics here are some suggestions:
ASK QUESTIONS: Never accept vague generalities and inadequate
explanations in response to your questions. Learn to recognize
when a message or answer is actually confused or ambiguous,
perhaps intentionally so. Beware of those who try to silence you
through group intimidation.
YOU CAN SAY "NO": You can always answer "none of the above" to
any multiple choice before deciding. Recognize group pressure to
decide quickly. Sleep and carefully think out your decision
before deciding. No one knows what's right for you except you!
After all, the group will not disappear in the next few days or
months. Be willing to disobey simple situational rules when you
feel you should. Never do anything you don't believe just to
appear normal or get someone off your back.
KEEP YOUR SELF-WORTH: Try to focus on what you are doing, rather
than on thoughts about yourself. Avoid giving personal
confessions that may be later used against you. Many destructive
groups and mind-control systems use in-group confessions, self-
exposure "games," and the like to cataloge the weaknesses of
their members for later exploitation.
LOOK FOR THE HIDDEN AGENDA: What is really being said? What is
not being said. Beware of invitations to isolated weekend
workshops having nebulous goals.
KEEP OUTSIDE CONTACTS: Maintain outside interests and sources of
social support. Reject the appeal that devotion to the cause
requires severing these ties.
PHYSICAL ABUSE: Exit those situations in which you are exposed to
or threatened with physical, emotional, or sexual abuse.
People who have left destructive groups must deal with feelings
of victimization, isolation, repression, and self-worthlessness.
When beliefs are shaken, it is difficult to start over. After
all, every exit is an entrance to somewhere else.
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Msg#: 441 Date: 09-24-93 20:48
From: Sheppard Gordon Read: Yes Replied: No
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Subj: Bigfoot Tracker
A `Bigfoot' Tracker Is Hot on the Trail In the Buckeye State
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The Shy, Hairy Beasts Live Not Far From Cleveland,
Many Eyewitnesses Say
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02/24/92 WALL STREET JOURNAL
ALLIANCE, Ohio -- Robert W. Morgan crunches across a
frozen cornfield on the outskirts of town after midnight,
hooting like an owl, sniffing like a dog and pausing here and
there to listen.
"Come on, you big hairy beast -- scream," he shouts into
the darkness. But there is not a peep from anything big and
hairy, only train horns, highway noise and protests from a
farmer's dogs.
Disappointed, Mr. Morgan hikes back to his car and tries
to excuse another unsuccessful search in Ohio for the
mythical beast, Bigfoot. Only he doesn't think the
human-like, ape-like being is a myth. "Anybody who thinks
Bigfoot isn't in Ohio hasn't lived here," he says.
Since arriving in October to visit family, Mr. Morgan has
clearly boosted Bigfoot awareness in the Buckeye state. As
sort of a professional Bigfoot tracker and promoter, he has
been giving speeches to high schools, sitting in on talk
shows, and setting up an 800-number to report Bigfoot
encounters. He also sells copies of a "Bigfoot Pocket Manual"
containing a "Bigfoot Encounter Report" form asking readers
to mail in even third-hand details of sightings. The response
has been (what else?) monstrous.
He says he has received Bigfoot sightings reports from all
over the state -- 50 in all -- some near Cleveland. Mr.
Morgan, who says he has spied Bigfoots three times in
Washington state, estimates there are 18 living in Ohio, the
seventh most populous state. "Bigfoot is very urbanized and
intelligent around here," he says.
Ron Brunner, an Alliance farmer, saw a 9-foot-tall
creature in a field across from his house in December -- just
50-odd miles from Cleveland. "My friends tell me I was in the
silo drinking too much corn juice," he says. "But what I saw
definitely was Bigfoot." He says his 50 cows were scared,
too.
Barbara Bilinovich, in nearby Barberton, says three
"humongous" creatures chased her from the woods one night.
"It's just going nuts around here" with all the Bigfoot
sightings, says Steve Jones, host of a hunting and fishing
radio show in Akron. While Mr. Morgan was a guest on his
program, several sightings were called in to the station.
The Bigfoot fuss is nothing new in Ohio. A few years back
a Columbus TV station reported that a band of Bigfoot hunters
were taking women into the woods to lure the animal. But no
Bigfoot took the bait. A decade earlier in Minerva, a 7-foot
Bigfoot peeked in on Mary Ackerman's family through their
dining-room window.
Paul Rozich, a leader of Canton's TriCounty UFO Study
Group, says Bigfoot has become the main topic at its monthly
meetings since several of its 85 members spied the animals in
recent years.
Mr. Morgan, 56 years old, is strictly an amateur
anthropologist. On the evolutionary scale, he is about as
distant from Bigfoot as one can get. He is short and pudgy
with a shaved head and blue eyes.
Nevertheless he feels for the Bigfoot, or Sasquatch, as
the beast is sometimes called. He fears their population,
which he puts at 2,500 in North America, is shrinking fast.
His reasoning: Bigfoot is so good at keeping out of sight
that he rarely runs across potential mates.
Mr. Morgan says the creatures -- "gentle people," he calls
them -- are nocturnal, semi-nomadic and highly intelligent.
They use a written language, scratched on rocks, which he
claims to have seen in Arizona and the Northwest. He is using
a computer to decipher the symbols.
The scientific community finds Mr. Morgan's claims a bit
Neanderthal. While bones of a Bigfoot-type creature,
Gigantopithecus, have been discovered in China, and some
scientists believe the beast may even live today in the
Pacific Northwest, Mr. Morgan is practically alone in
believing the creatures are smarter than apes -- and live in
Ohio.
"There's no scientific reason under the sun to expect such
a creature would ever have been in Ohio," says Frank Poirier,
professor of anthropology at Ohio State University. "The
existence of Bigfoot in Ohio is more in these people's minds
than in reality."
Jim Shannon, a police captain in Stark County, which
includes Canton, rejects Bigfoot on more empirical grounds.
"We're a pretty urban county, so there's not too many places
for this guy to hide," he says. "When Bigfoot walks into one
of our liquor stores and pulls a hold up, then I'll believe
it."
Mr. Morgan compares himself to Galileo and Columbus, a
"lone ranger" shunned by an ignorant, arrogant society that
fears the truth. His goal is to have the species protected,
but he's in a bind. The government requires proof that the
thing exists, and Mr. Morgan is reluctant to catch one
because he considers Bigfoot human. Capturing a Bigfoot, he
says, would bring the American Civil Liberties Union on his
back.
Instead, he plans to get close enough to rip off a hunk of
Bigfoot's hair and flesh, though he hasn't yet decided what
he'll do if this angers the creature -- which, he admits, it
well might.
He says he first spied a Bigfoot on a bear hunting trip in
Washington in 1957. After seeing a Bigfoot article in a 1969
Reader's Digest, he says he quit his job as a computer
specialist to track Bigfoots full time. He lives in Montana
but has pursued his quarry in Florida, New Mexico and the
Northwest.
Mr. Morgan says he supports himself with money from
various business ventures in marketing and films, many of
which have failed. But he is optimistic about his next
project: filming a detective movie in Romania. While there,
of course, he'll hunt for Bigfoot. (Mr. Morgan did appear in
the 1975 docudrama, "In Search of Bigfoot," which aired on
network TV.)
Some have tried to take Mr. Morgan for a fool. In Washington,
he recalls, someone offered him, for $1 million, film of a man
in an oversized jacket shaking a tree. In Oregon, he says, a man
tried to throw him off the track by running nude through the woods
at night, covered in fish oil. In Ohio, he persuaded Canton's Daring
Publishing Group, specialists in military and spiritual healing books,
to print his handbook and provide an office. He has recruited the
publisher and a local paramedic to help him track Bigfoot. Daily, they
pore over encounter reports at the office: A 38-year-old electrician
in Mantua spied the beast walking in the middle of the Cuyahoga river;
another man found Bigfoot crying one morning at a campsite off Route
87; another found the beast covered with berries and walking down a
dirt road in Sharon.
They plot the sightings on a map, and head out to
investigate. It isn't long before he pulls the car off the
road and darts into the woods. "Hmmm," he says, pointing to a
broken sapling. Yards later, some bark is scraped off a tree,
and a patch of moss is missing from a log. "Hmmm." Nearby,
there's a smell of urine, or perhaps fertilizer. "Hmmm." He
finds a cluster of dried leaves draped over a branch. A
signpost left by Bigfoot? "Hmmm."
He admits the find is not "conclusive." Even so, Mr.
Morgan believes, he's getting warm. "We're on the verge," he
says, "of a serious contact."
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Msg#: 457 Date: 09-25-93 07:34
From: Walter Bartoo Read: Yes Replied: No
To: Ed Hackett Mark: Save
Subj: Walter's wave physics
> AREA:BAMA
> On 09-2093, WALTER BARTOO wrote to SCOTT ECKER:
> WB> I am in a sense a scientist but I deal in a field of science few
> WB> understand yet...
> WB> It's called Meta-Tronic Science and deals with advanced wave physics.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I can't resist...
> Why don't you see if you can explain to us what these words mean.
> I'm relatively sure I'm not the only person on this echo intrigued by
> your statement.
> Please start with BASIC wave physics, for those of us who haven't
> mastered the advanced stuff...
> Ed (Anxiously Awaiting Enlightenment) Hackett
(WB) There is nothing basic about any of this, but there is
a need to understand that everything is energy period. From
that point of view things begin to make sense.
(WB) Ok Ed. What I'm referring as to a definition in what I mean in
referrence to Wave Physics. First Physics my referrence
to my slant here. Websters New College Dictionary. (Physics) A science that
deals with matter and energy and there interactions in the
fields of (Some deleted For clarity here) mechanics,
acoustics, and magnetics. The Physical processes and
phenomena of a particular system. (Wave) what I was
referring to. A disturbance or variaton that transfers
energy progressively from point to point in a medium and
that may take the form of an elastic deformation or of
pressure, electric or magnetc intensity (Deleted for
clarity). The term i'm using as a definition on my idea of
Wave Physics.
Metatronic Science: This source referrence is much longer
my secretary will type it in later. Along with that I will
post another file on Pyramids that will explain how the two
inter act and what I'm up to on this mountain in referrence
to Pyramids, Wave Physics, and Metaronic Science.
Metatronic Creation: In this referrence it will also
explain Wave Physics and how energy effects matter, and
creation.
Hoagland in the Mars face, Pyramid etc. Stumbled on to a basis for fuller
understanding of parts of this in relation to Metatronic
creation or how creation works. Add to his stuff what I
understand about energy paths, grids, and wave forms then
all sorts of impossibilities suddenly become possible.
Two experiments relating to this are the Montauk project,
and the Philadelphia experiment. I had these guys here for
three days and alot of this was discussed from my
perspective and theirs that interrelated in many ways. We
are dealing with dimensions here, time travel, vortexs,
creation and a host of other things things that can be
altered in referrence to certain things effecting each area.
So even thou I never pursued any degrees. I did pursue
specific areas before they became unlisted, unavailable and
or classified areas blocked as sources of information in
research in these areas on these topics. Beyond that
keeping an open mind led me to where this all now makes
sense to me. Whether It will to you or anyone outside this
I can't say.
When I talked to Duncan Cameran or Al Bielik, or Preston Nichols we
understand and talk about things many others don't know
exist. These guys just being a few heard of people versus
many more less heard of sharing certain things in these
fields that are doing things privately in many of these
areas.
To Hoagland this became really clear when certain pictures
depictng energy patterns and holes and their relationships
bore out and verified his other findings that created a
control that made sense. I had these tapes but they went
out of here and I for the life of me can't remember who
borrowed them.
All matter solid or otherwise is energy. Change energy
through wave action in physics and you can change matter,
and even it's relationship in time.
From here on out I will probably loose you guys but as long as we are having
a discussion on this not a flame war, I will try and make
some sense about this to anyone interested. I'm using as
requested the scientific approach. But understand some of
this gets out of any boundaries set by a field and this is
where an open mind must come in, in order to continue. In
that being agreed by you Ed I will proceed with you in
this. Otherwise there is no sense in getting into any long
discussion on anything I'm saying here. I have several
Physicists working with me who understand what I'm doing.
But who are not steadfast text book junkies in this and
these see a new understanding not yet fully understood that
bares out certain things. But again if you read my last
message I said I'm not an expert but do understand the
parts I'm playing with to a certain degree.
Regards Walter
P.S. Posts coming: Pyramids3, Metatronic Science, and Metatronic Creation
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Msg#: 463 Date: 09-25-93 20:51
From: Walter Bartoo Read: Yes Replied: No
To: Ed Hackett Mark: Save
Subj: Walters Wave Physics
( Metatronic Science And Pyramids)
Here are your definitions ED: Enjoy!
1.Metatronic Sciences: The disciplines to create and completely
restore life systems of creation in the outer universe.
2.Pyramids: The select Pyramid time clocks built in various
planetary sectors by earlier rounds of higher intelligence for
watching or directing the destiny of an experiment. Coded time
structures. Under ground Amazonian time vaults.
3. Pyramid of Light: The Central model used in connecting the
biomagnetic of the body, the planetary body, and the interplane-
tary body of the cosmoses with higher evolutionary orders. The
Pyramid of Light is connected with a specific throne center for
the filtering of Divine Wisdom. A deca delta model for creation ,
initiation, and regeneration. Note Orvotrons Pyramid dezign.
4. Pyramid-five formation: The use of a pentagon or pentagon like
geometry by the Higher intelligence for the control of certain
experiments of life. The Geometric coordination which permits
interconnections between certain activities in the nucleotide
base and astrophysical activities connecting levels of seed
programming.
Referrence: From The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch, J.J.
Hurtak
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Msg#: 464 Date: 09-25-93 20:53
From: Walter Bartoo Read: Yes Replied: No
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Subj: Genesis story 1 of 6
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Want to solve the Mystery of The Missing link? Find the answers
to sacred Geometry? Read about this planets hidden history
Genisis is for you. I submitted Davids Fairly tale because I
liked it but the book will open your eyes and astound you I
recommend it as a high reader towards understanding your past and
your future in what it relays, This just being a story at the end
the rest is a sscientific journey of revealing facts that none
can put down. regards walter
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Epilogue: To David Woods Book Genisis
The Fairy Story
Then said another-"Surely not in vain
My Substance from the common Earth was ta'en
That He who subtly wrought me into Shape
Should stamp me back to common Earth again."
We have completed a voyage of discovery into uncharted
areas. Many others will follow and one day, God willing, all
will be understood. For the moment I am asking the reader to see
the connections in items far removed from each other in location
and time. This book shows, to the best of my ability, the mean-
ing contained in the primary stages of the geometry of Rennes and
that meaning includes events which may pre-date even our wildest
estimates for the existence of an intellect on this planet.
Outside the scope of this investigation, but still
harmonizing with it, the imagination rules, for the moment at
least. Many scenarios come to mind which could take us from our
present findings, remote as they are, back to the very origin of
intellect. To provide food for thought I offer here just one of
many possibilities. It is no more than a story, a fairy story if
you will, no proof this time, no confirmation, ignore it if you
choose.
As far as I am able, I will use names which were given by
man, so that the reader may more easily equate events with those
which he knows. The ape I refer to could have been Neanderthal,
a primitive creature of Earth's past history with a 500cc brain
capacity. The two created creatures, the Seths and the Cains,
are collectively known as Cro-Magnon. The explanation of that
small colony of Neanderthals of much higher brain capacity in
Western Europe will be easily understood as the story unfolds.
Once upon a time, long ago and far away, in the planets of
the star of Sirius, lived a race of beings who had developed, to
a level of intelligence almost beyond our comprehension. They
knew nothing of the problems which beset mankind today. They had
total control over their environment and millions of years had
passed since any disease had been known to them. Their bodies
served only as vehicles to transport their brains and to perform
the simplest of tasks.
The most physically active period for these beings was when
they were involved in bringing up a child. The sexes had long
since merged, so that there was no male or female; they were
androgynous, and any one of them could reproduce if it so chose.
But this is not to say they did not experience emotions, although
these were not the violent animal emotions of mankind. They had
a great deal of love for their children and derived immense
pleasure from music and art. Not that we would ever recognize
it, for the harmony that would please them was so subtle it would
be imperceptible to our senses. Their faculties worked on prob-
lems so advanced we could not even comprehend them, save one-
their desire to achieve communication with the force of creation.
The conquest of space was a thing of the past to them and
starships had been constructed during their development that
could reach the ultimate speed of light. Their sphere of influ-
ence was governed only by the time they were willing to expend on
such a journey. This restriction and the accompanying problem of
the Lorentz transformation of time had never been solved and to
some degree, they were psychologically depressed by it. Their
boundaries, though infinite in one sense, were certainly finite
and bounded when related to their origin of operation. In their
history of exploration they had been surprised that, as star
system after star system was visited, although they found an
abundance of life on many planets, they had never found an ad-
vanced intelligence other than their own.
Long before, in the pioneering days of their development,
they had mastered genetic engineering, producing any number of
sub-intelligent creatures to carry out tasks of mining, farming
and so on. As they progressed their medical science had almost
totally cured them of the disease of ageing. The population was
strictly controlled to the environment, so that the need for
manufactured creatures had long since vanished. New levels of
ethics had outlawed the practice of breeding these sub-intellects
as it had been abused in the past. To all appearances, this
stable intellectual society was established to a point of being
indestructible. There was however, a terrible secret, known only
to a select few in the governing body.
The other stars in the Sirius system were interacting in a
manner at variance with calculations which had been made a
thousand times before and considered to be perfect. Wheat was
more, the effect was increasing at an alarming rate. It indicat-
ed that a nearby star which had served as a 'refuse disposal'
station for hundreds of thousands of years was no longer
functioning as predicted. They had anticipated it would remain
fairly stable for millions of years finally moving towards the
'red giant' phase, another slow process involving a vast period
of time. The immense and finely balanced forces in the star had
however elected to follow the unlikely and unpredictable alterna-
tive-a vortex in time. Within a hundred thousand years or so
they knew the mesh of space and time at the core of the star
would fracture and its celestial neighbors would eventually
inexorably be drawn into the void. Not wishing to alarm the
people, the governing body devised a plan. Under the guise of a
revival of an intergalactic voyage to verify a suspected intelli-
gence, three massive spherical star-ships were constructed in
orbit round one of the planets. They were named Nosira, Setorion
and Isinos. Although a good deal of speculation had arisen as to
why such vast ships were required for such a mission, it was all
forgotten when the government arranged a grand tour for all those
who were interested to see the ships for themselves. On the
first day the visitors were those specially invited by the Coun-
cil. The plan succeeded and hundreds were shuttled to the orbit-
ing ships. When the target figures were achieved the ships moved
off. By the time it was realized what had happened, the vessels
were deep in space and only by using great diplomacy, did the
Council eventually persuade the majority that this act of deceit
had been executed for the salvation of their species. For count-
less years they traveled and finally approached our solar system
in the year 200,000BN (Before Now). They despatched probes to
the planets and began to monitor the results.
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Subj: Genesis Story 2 of 6
The Fairy Story continued
These probes could analyze instantly the environment of a
planet by a method unknown to us. Simply, the movement of a
celestial body creates a pattern in the light that strikes it.
The analysis of the reflected rays produce harmonics which carry
a complete diagnosis of the planet. These could be transcribed
into sound and even those people who were not trained in this
science would recognize immediately the compatibility of the
environment of the sphere under examination. There was no doubt-
ing the symphony of Mars; it came to them like a long forgotten
melody, its harmonics were almost identical to those of the
planets of their origin. The strong chords of the fifth harmonic
of Earth indicated an abundance of water, but the gravitational
field was far too oppressive for comfort. Also there was that
slight 'grating' pulse in its axial movement, caused by a large
degassed comet having impacted the planet during its past histo-
ry.
The three huge vessels of the Elohim, for that was their name,
moved gracefully into their obital positions in the Martian sky.
The colonization progressed rapidly and within a few hundred
years, the cities of the Elohim were established all over the
surface of the planet. Culture centers provided breathtaking
holograms of landscapes of the neighboring planets. The Earth,
teeming with animal and plant life, was particularly exciting to
them.
In time it became increasingly obvious that it would be far
more economical to farm the planet Earth than to maintain the
agricultural domes of Mars, where water was quite scarce by
comparison. The technology was no problem to these people, but
there were two factors which perplexed them. The first, although
not serious, was the dense humid atmosphere, the quality of the
air was perfect, but there was just too much of it. A simple
restrictor valve and a light-weight helmet was designed to solve
the problem.
The second was insurmountable. It was the gravitational
field of the Earth, which almost trebled their weight. Even
those who had been specially trained could not tolerate this
burden for more than a few weeks at a time.
The only logical step was to create an orbital station.
This could be used as a staging post of the freighters which
passed between the planets and also provide a rest station to
rotate the Earth contingent. The duty was, nevertheless, very
unpopular, as it was both exhausting and menial. Great pressure
was brought to bear on the Council to reverse the ban on genetic
manipulation. Surely, it was argued, if it had achieved its
objectives once in the history of the people, the present circum-
stances qualified to an even greater extent.
The Council conceded. Five specimens were produced from a
female ape-like creature who had been brought back to Mars from
Earth. Four of the specimens were perfect, two male and two
female. The last, the 'runt' of the litter, was a much smaller
male and the scientists jocularly disclaimed it. They said two
of the larger offspring must have mated while still in the womb.
The names given to the males were Set and Osiris, to the females
Isis and Nephthys and the 'runt' was named Horus, supposedly the
offspring of the largest male and female, Osiris and Isis. They
were all trained in the laboratories of the Martian faculties and
the intellectual level of the creatures surprised even their
creators. Obviously, it would be a cruelty to subject such a
high intelligence to the tasks of mining and agriculture on
Earth.
Having a standard to work from, a male specimen was produced
with a slightly lesser intelligence than the original five. It
was named Nephilim. The prototype was approved and the work of
'cloning' was transferred to the orbiting satellite of Earth,
which was under the control of Shaitan, a senior executive of the
Council.
A suitable base was prepared on an island continent in the
Atlantic and a thousand or more Nephilim were trained to super-
vise the affairs of Earth.
The Elohim were vegetarians and would never have considered
eating any mobile life form. On Earth there was an infinite
variety of fruit trees and between the middle latitudes of the
planet conditions prevailed which produced a continuous supply of
fruit. The problem was simply how to gather it. Therefore
initially, the task of the Nephilim consisted of:
1) training colonies of Neanderthal apes to collect the
fruit,
2) transporting it to the Atlantis base by boat,
3) washing, sorting and packaging it ready for the shuttle
craft.
Atlantis was designed to accommodate the continuous coming
and going of the fruit-boats and the layout was most ingenious.
Viewed from the air, Atlantis appeared as a huge target of
three concentric waterways, the outer one of which was connected
to the sea by a canal. This canal was divided in such fashion as
to form a way of approach and departure. The water was pumped
from a lock near the exit to the sea and thus a 'round-about'
system operated which enabled the ships to lower their sails at
the canal entrance and to be drawn into the approach waterway.
By means of rudder alone, they could then negotiate to the posi-
tion where they desired to unload their cargo. Having done so,
by casting off, they were drawn round the canal until they
reached the departure lock. At pre-arranged times the pumping
ceased allowing the sea to flow back into the lock until its
level equated with the outer ocean. Thereupon the vessels could
set sail and depart.
The second of the concentric canals served as the washing
area for the fruit prior to it being taken to the central island
for packaging. This was the landing area for the shuttles.
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The space shuttle used Hydrox as the propellent mass. By
subjecting water to a precise harmonic it was dissociated to
hydrogen and oxygen, which expanded into the combustion chamber
where it was ignited before exhausting as a searing flame. The
Nephilim were puzzled by this burning water and the legends of it
survived the aeons. Before their eyes they saw the structure of
earthly matter disrupted into nuclear chaos, water transformed
into vapours of the same elements as the air and with them ignit-
ing in a thundrous roar as the shuttles rose to the realm of the
gods. Huge transporters plied the journey from Earth to Mars and
back every few months. One could always find one of these
immense vessels in Earth orbit receiving the shuttles from Atlan-
tis. Earth had proved to be the ideal source for fruit, but
vegetables were also required. Unlike the gathering of natural
produce, the growing of vegetables would necessitate the clearing
of land, planting, sowing seed and the labors of husbandry.
Furthermore the rich mineral deposits of the planet Earth had not
escaped the notice of the Elohim, and mining was under considera-
tion. For this function the large Neanderthals were not suited,
or able. The Council of the Elohim considered the possibilities;
other creatures of smaller stature were required. As it was
contrary to the law of the Elohim to kill any living creature
themselves, the Nephilim were requested to take steps to reduce
the Neanderthal population of Earth preparatory to the arrival of
the improved species. This the Nephilim did, with awesome effi-
ciency.
Meanwhile the genetic engineers were working on another
specimen with the higher levels of the mind cauterized. This was
achieved by subjecting the brain to an intense level of
radiation, beamed at a specific area. This limited the
intelligence of the creature by isolating the highest functions
of the mind which were present by virtue of the genetic origin of
their brains- the Elohim. The creature was named the Cain and
was cloned in thousands. They were trained and put to work in
mining projects on Earth. Their smaller stature than the Nephi-
lim facilitated their movement underground. The intellect of the
next group was retarded even further, for they had only to
prepare ground and grow food. They were called the Seths and
were similar to the Cains in size.
Things went well for a time and the supplies required by the
Elohim flowed from Earth to Mars. Meanwhile the first five had
been utilized by the heads of scientific faculties for duties in
the laboratories.
Eventually in the course of the routine medical examinations
of the Seths and Cains, it had been noticed that they appeared to
be suffering slightly from malnutrition. The reason was soon
established, for in their indigenous environment they had been
largely carnivorous. The trap animal meat on the planet, to
augment the food supplies of the Seths and Cains, would have been
a tedious business involving the Elohim in spending time on the
planet hunting. Therefore the decision was taken to create two
docile animals that would provide the necessary meat. Also it
would have the secondary benefit of providing skins which could
be used to make protective clothing. The names of the creatures
created for this purpose were sheep and cows. Certain of the
Seths were trained to care for them, as the intellectual require-
ment for this task was minimal.
By now Isis had become a beautiful young woman and together
with her brothers and sisters, had acquired a comprehensive
education. With the exception of the knowledge of generating
nuclear power, they ranked close to the Elohim and were permitted
free movement round the city. They were very popular, and always
an added attraction at the banquets of the Council members of the
Elohim. Inevitably the time came when Shaitan requested that
they should come under his jurisdiction and be given control of
the Atlantis base, responsible to him. Shaitan had his way, for
no logical reason could be given to keep them on Mars.
The administration of Earth was no easy matter, for jealousy
existed between the groups and in them too. The Cainites were
the most resentful, for their work was dangerous and many of them
had been killed in mining operations. Also, in contrast to the
Seths who could always augment their food supplies with extras
from the field, the Cainites received their rations and no more.
Isis and Osiris requested laser equipment to make the work
of the Cainites less arduous. It was refused, on the grounds it
would put a weapon in the hands of a sub-intellect, which was
contrary to the law of the Elohim. They next requested the
number of Cainites be doubled to allow Isis to reduce their
working hours. This was also refused. The topping up ratio had
been laid down and the Elohim saw no reason to change it.
Isis pleaded with Shaitan to use his influence with the
Council, which he did, but to no avail. Shaitan being nearer to
the problem could appreciate how Isis felt and he recognized
something that the Council had not taken into account. It was
the affinity which had developed between Isis and her subjects.
She was of almost equal intellect to the Elohim and could argue
with them as equals, but she was of the flesh of an Earth crea-
ture and she was female. The one animal emotion that was residu-
al in her composition was the mother instinct. She had no great
love for the Nephilim, in fact, their arrogance, a residue of
their animal characteristics, had caused her to reprimand them on
many occasions. On the other hand she sympathized with the hard-
working Cainites and was fully aware they had nicknamed the
Nephilim the 'watchers',resentful of the fact that they never
seemed to do anything useful.
Isis and Shaitan had become close friends over the years and
in consequence of this she confided in him a plan she had de-
vised. She argued thus: as no Elohim had visited Earth for
hundreds of years they were unlikely to do so in the future.
Therefore, if she were able to produce the necessary additional
subjects, no one need know of it. The supplies would continue to
flow and her sense of responsibility to the welfare of her sub-
jects would be satisfied. Being fully aware of the animal repro-
ductive processes, she wished to arrange the impregnation of
female apes by certain of the Nephilim. The resultant females
might well be suitable mothers to produce creatures of equal
intellect to the Cainites. Shaitan listened with sympathy, but
agreed to no more than to look the other way.
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Isis proceeded with her experiment and many years elapsed
before she had to admit failure. All the offspring were of the
Sethite level of intelligence. Furthermore, they were breeding
faster than she had anticipated. It would have been a simple
task for her to have destroyed them, but once again she was
hampered by her animal mother instincts. Again she approached
Shaitan and this time he conceded that, with great secrecy, he
would use his skill to impregnate some female apes for Isis in
the laboratory of the orbital station. This would produce off-
spring of Cainite quality.
It is interesting to mention that during these frequent
excursions of Isis to the orbiting station, the Seths and Cains,
never being able to see the station, were under the impression
that Isis was visiting the sun. By virtue of the obvious respect
she showed to the unseen Shaitan, they looked upon the sun as the
superior deity and even named it Shaitan. They created images
illustrating the head of a man surrounded by a nimbus or halo.
We know this experiment of Shaitan's succeeded, and the
problem was solved but for one thing. Unbeknown to Isis, the
Nephilim, who had been used in her first experiment had conveyed
to their associates, that they had experienced an incredible
sensation while impregnating the apes, So vivid were their
descriptions that when the Nephilim were inspecting the produc-
tion areas, they were making secret sorties into the forests,
searching for female apes, or any other animal similarly
equipped, that they may experience the sensation for themselves.
The hideous creatures that resulted from these unions are
well known in our mythology. When Isis and Shaitan discovered
what had happened they were furious. They ordered the Nephilim
to round up the mutations, or at least all they could find, and
assemble them in the cities of the plains, a place far-removed
from the Atlantis base. When the Nephilim and the mutations were
all present and were expecting to be severely reprimanded, Isis
and Shaitan destroyed them all by nuclear devices which had been
placed in the cities.
The Earth was supposedly thereby cleansed, but as one might
imagine, Isis and Shaitan could never be sure that they had
located every animal wherein lay the seed of the Nephilim. Isis
had good reason to believe that the Nephilim had also impregnated
some of the Sethite women of her original experiment. Recall the
scriptures:
-that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they
were fair and they took them wives of all which they chose.
But Isis decided to overlook this fact. Fortunately, noth-
ing of this had leaked back to the Council on Mars and as far as
they were concerned everything was proceeding according to plan,
and so it did for a very long time.
Shaitan should have been replace much sooner than this, but
could see no way that he could have explained the vast increase
in the Earth's population, or what was even worse, the existence
of female Sethites and Cainites, breeding like flies all over the
planet Earth. He knew the truth would be bound to come out
eventually, but he decided to delay the event as long as possible
and not apply for his transfer. He knew, however, that the time
would come when an explanation would be required. It came sooner
than he expected.
An astronomical faculty on Mars had recorded, deep in
space, a massive comet moving towards the solar system and as the
years went by they refined their calculations.
Eventually, they had no option but to report to the Council
that their original fears were now confirmed; it would pass
through the solar system, resulting possibly in collision or
violent disruption of the planetary orbits.
The Council were dumbfounded and great argument ensued, in
which process one of the Council was sent to the Earth station to
inform Shaitan of the impending disaster. It had been agreed in
principle, that the three star-ships should be overhauled and the
population of Mars and Earth should be taken to a safe stand-off
position in space. From there the passage of the comet could be
observed and hopefully Mars and Earth would survive. They would
then be able to return to the planets. For this comparatively
short flight, the ships could be overloaded with people. The
Council had calculated that the greater majority of the Earth
clones could be accommodated; then if the situation demanded it,
they could eventually be utilized to carry out any necessary
rebuilding. Inevitably Shaitan's secret was exposed, the vast
population of earth became known to the Council and Shaitan was
recalled to Mars to answer the charges.
Meanwhile there were further complications. In their com-
placency the Elohim had allowed their star-ships to deteriorate.
Various faculties had requested certain sophisticated items of
equipment for their research and the ships had been cannibalized
to such a degree that only one, Isinos, could be made ready in
time. The Council decisions were as follows:
1) Isinos would stand off with as many Elohim as could be
packed into it.
2) Shaitan would be sent back down to the orbiting station
to take his chances in the 'other world' or the 'under-
world' as it had been referred to.
3) Earth would be left to its own devices but the five
would be taken aboard Isinos, if they so chose.
4) The Council reasoned therefore, that they had not been
responsible for condemning anyone. The results of the
passage of the comet through the system were unknown and the
outcome was therefore, in the hands of the Creator (the
Architect of the Universe).
The five decided to stay on Earth for varying reasons:
Isis because of her love for her subjects, the people of
Earth.
Osiris because of his allegiance to the Queen.
Set, because he preferred his position of importance on
Earth to becoming an inferior being among the Elohim again.
Nephthys, by reason of her allegiance to her consort, Set
and her great love of her sister, the Queen.
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Horus, because of the compassion shown to him by the Queen
and Osiris, which had been misunderstood by all on Earth, to such
a degree, that due to his size he had been thought of as their
son.
Shaitan insisted that the chances of survival would be
better in the station and the five agreed to join him there to
await the outcome. Contrary to the instructions of the Council
however, certain information was given to the people of Earth, to
increase their chances of survival.
Isinos moved off. The comet struck! The system reeled
under the massive forces of celestial powers. Asta, the planet
between Mars and Jupiter shattered to millions of fragments, many
of which rained 'fire and brimstone' on Mars, Earth, Venus and
Mercury as it fell towards the sun. The planetary axes moved and
were left tilted to inharmonious angles destroying the music of
their spheres. The sea washed over the land. The temperatures
of the inner planets was raised to an intolerable degree and the
dense clouds of water vapor, united with the particles of dust in
their tropospheres, to obscure the light of the sun. Venus and
Lunar, the two planets between Earth and Mercury, were disrupted
from their orbits. Venus came dangerously near to the Earth and
Lunar was captured by it. They moved further from the sun and to
this day, they swing together in their crazy dance round their
new orbit. Venus at one moment went so close to the sun it
steamed like a cauldron and still does. Earth and Mars, their
surfaces in darkness due to the mantle of dense vapor absorbing
the sunlight, grew colder. The massive clouds precipitated as
snow on to the dry cold surface and compacted to ice.
Isis was heartbroken to see her people drowned in the mud.
Wherever she was able, she assisted their survival and when the
ice came she took them to places where caves would give them
shelter. Eventually, convection currents formed, as the Earth
swung annually, for now there were seasons on the planet. The
grip of the ice was broken and the streams began to flow. Mars,
being further away from the sun, never recovered and to this day
a mile of ice covers its surface. Under that ice lie the aban-
doned cities of the Elohim.
Volcanoes eventually forced through the ice and showered
their ashes and gravel over the surface, until the ice could no
longer be seen. In fact, if you were to visit that planet you
could mistake it for a stony desert. But look at the density of
the planet and look at those great canyons veiled with dust, they
merely mark the melting of the ice where lava once flowed.
The rest you know. The five returned to Earth, Isis and
Osiris taught the people how to survive. The natural food had
been largely destroyed and the seasons restricted the development
of the trees which had provided great harvest of fruit in the
past. Corn was the answer-and sheep, and cattle, and deer, and
Isis provided them.
The land mass in the Atlantic had ruptured and slid to the
floor of the ocean. With the main Earth base at Atlantis de-
stroyed, the five operated from a small island to the north of
where it had been.
They selected their staff from the elite of the Cainites,
entrusting them with scientific knowledge which would have
previously been considered too dangerous to be in the hands of
creatures of such low intellect. The Cainites were taught to
build with stone and to use levers and how to make weapons and
tools from the metals their ancestors had mined for the Elohim.
The Cainite women were instructed by Nephthys in medicine;
also in the art of curing themselves by extracting chemicals from
plants and in the skills of weaving. She taught them how to make
potions and perfume which could be used to influence men to be
attracted to them; she instructed them in childbirth.
It was the responsibility of Osiris to develop the necessi-
ties for the small groups of known survivors throughout the
world. For this he used one of the fleet of shuttle-craft which
Shaitan had donated to Isis from the orbiting station. To Osiris
and his staff was also given the task of distributing corn and
barley seed. Instructing the people in its uses, emphasizing
that it could not be taken for granted. This gift would not
always be there. It was their responsibility to conserve part of
their harvest as seed for the ensuing years. Naturally, his
visits were timed to coincide with the planting season and har-
vest time. This gave rise to the Tammuz-Adonis Rites of the
Syrian and Greek legends. The arrival of Osiris was a time of
celebration and his departure was lamented, for they considered
that he had returned to the underworld or the land of the dead.
Which he eventually did, for as we know he was murdered by his
brother Set.
To Horus was given the task of teaching the science of
light, its properties and its uses for analysis. It was the
ultimate constant and as such was the measuring rod of the uni-
verse. He showed them the power of the harmonics of light and
how to build tools that could cut stone with light. It is unfor-
tunate for mankind that Horus was not a popular tutor. As he was
much smaller than the other 'gods', his pupils were inclined to
treat him with less respect. His subject was also harder to
teach, as it was largely theoretical and would be of use to them
only in their future development. He was tired of explaining how
his instruction was the most important of all the subjects. In
fits of anger he would try to convey to them how the sun was the
source of that which could eventually raise their descendants to
acquire the power of the 'gods'; but his pupils were more con-
cerned with what would affect them in their time. Horus consid-
ered his task hopeless and took the problem to Isis, who consult-
ed with Shaitan.
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It was recognized by them there could be no immediate
solution. The Shaitan and Isis conceived a brilliant plan to use
mankind as the vehicle to carry this critical knowledge into the
future. A number of diagrams were devised which, although simple
to construct and to remember, incorporated the basic elements of
the ultimate relationship between life and matter and the
harmonics of light. They had laid down the units of linear
measure which would automatically generate the essential harmon-
ics when applied to the geometrical diagrams. The Cainites were
informed that those who showed the most promise were to be
instructed by Isis, the supreme goddess herself. Until that
time, she had always functioned in an administrative capacity.
The chosen ones felt greatly honored and watched with awe as Isis
traced out the figures. These figures, she told them, must never
be seen by any but the highest intellects. They had magical
power and one in particular, which she knew they must preserve at
all costs was the pentagram and its divisions.
So she showed them the division of the pentagram that no man
had ever seen, that they could never forget, for no mortal man
had ever her unveiled.
And she taught them secret numbers that they could write
down and told them how, from these secret numbers, the holy
number could be known, but never written knowingly.
And she divided her hand, that they should know her not only
as 8 but as 18 and that was a secret number, but not the holy
number.
And she taught them the reflections, of the circle and of
the sphere and the numbers and how to reverse them, lest they
should forget the reflections.
And her circle she divided and showed them the divisions of
it and the numbers by which they would know it.
And the circle was 360 and 1080 and the numbers of her body
she showed them and they were 72 and 36 and 108 and from these
number was the figure made and the sum of the numbers she showed
them and it was 1800, but this was not the holy number.
And she showed them the number of man and how with her it
would unite and they would have the understanding of that which
they had in common with her.
But of the number of her father she told them not.
And she showed them a distant star and the planet that bears
her name and number to this day. Even she and the mighty Shaitan
watched in awe when they saw the Architect of the Universe arrest
that wandering orb in the fashion of her sign: As Above So
Below; the first-ever positive demonstration of the presence of
the Great Architect and in a form which expressed approval of the
work of Shaitan and Isis.
Then Isis told them of a place on Earth where all she had
told them would be marked with standing stones, and she told them
of the stone that was here name and how it would show where her
final resting place would be.
Although they could not comprehend it at the time, the
chosen Cainites knew that, coming as it did from the supreme
goddess, it must be vital. So they guarded the secrets jealous-
ly. Some eventually pretended to know the ultimate secret con-
tained in the teaching. With the passage of time, some tried to
destroy all reference to it, fearing they would be exposed as
frauds for having accepted high office in religion, knowing that
they were unqualified to be there. However the plan succeeded
and those numbers, or even more veiled methods of arriving at
them, were passed down through the centuries. May it be our good
fortune that the time will come, when men of science will recog-
nize or remember the message they contain.
Of the work of the five you now know, of the jealousy of Set
you now know, of the death of Osiris you now know, and of the
secrets of that Great Queen, born of the gods, who mothered
mankind and yet was a virgin, you now know.
But what came of Shaitan?
The orbiting station fell to earth, of that we can be sure,
and with it the last of the Nephilim who comprised the staff of
Shaitan; but did Shaitan choose self-destruction? Or is he still
present, here on Earth, Rex Mundi (King of the Earth)?
The Elohim looked back at Mars, there could be no return.
They looked to the stars again, maybe Orion?
Again one thing is certain, they cannot escape their respon-
sibility; whatever ensued, it was their coming which released an
animal intellect into the universe. An intellect which should
have evolved over millions of years to allow the ethics of the
creature to equate with the intelligence that gave it power.
Their burden-that they left behind them a confused hybrid,
handicapped by animal instincts of self-survival, sex and terri-
torial obsessions. Yet this creature carries a brain of such
capacity it could unleash immense destructive power. The severed
parts of the mind, so cleverly retarded by the Elohim, are al-
ready known to exist. It is only a matter of time before, by
chance or design, the connection is made. Then we will see the
fearful danger in the Man who is Beast:
Here is the wisdom. Let him that hath the understanding
count the number of the beast: for it is the number of man;
and his number is 666.
And to the Elohim we say, the guilt is yours, to have left
this creature with crippled mind believing that he, like all
about him, is part of the work of the Great Architect of Time and
Space, is to perpetuate the crime of which you stand accused:
that by neglect you would APE the ALMIGHTY.
Genesis
David Wood
The Fairy Story
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Hi Gorden: Well I must say that was a very good post. But
after a careful analysis it became apparent this takes in
everything from organized religion to people fed up with
society. It reminded me of a fella who was down on this
organization or that race group. Judi when he was done
stated well I guess that includes everyone because what
you just stated wiped out the human race none barred
yourself included as no one was left.
If you are saying here different ideas and or beliefs are
dangerous to society I have to agree, but only in a society
that controls it's system and programs it's citizens and
looks down on creative differences in it's people as to be
free thinkers.
The word cult or for that matter and revolution are being used in there
most negative forms today by those in control. Anything it seems having
membership falls under the loose definition of a cult. Revolution a good word
meaning change has been turned into something it is not by
those not wanting anything going on interferring or
exposing the controls mounting daily over the masses and is
labeled anti american or subversive. It might interest you
to know most positive changes were brought in by crazies
that
brought out ideas that were different than the masses. If
everyone was to think the same there would never be any
change po or con. My vote goes for free thinkers verses
think alikes who contribute very little in any society.
Just recently they Labeled Clair Prophet a cult because she
had everyone chant God is Love. They called this programing
and mind control. But just try to revealed and expose what
these same people are doing in their own mind control
programs and the shoe gets a heavy borrage of denial and
gets quickly hidden under the rug by a controled media.
I personally don't believe any of the Waco stuff the media
hyped on the affair or for that matter anything in your
post. Granted there are cults brainwashing people. But
everything out there connected to any group is not
necesssarily a cult and there are MANY good organizations
working for a freer better world ours being one.
The other thing I wanted to say there has been enough info circulating that
Jones Town did not go down the way the story was told. Did
you ever see the other slant on it Gorden? Jonestown is
another hoaxed story dreamed up and sold hook line and
sinker to a gulliable public. If this is a true statement
then how much of all information is false and is being
force fed to the public? I think the facts if revealed
would surprise the most hard headed skeptic.
Give us a break Gorden where do you constantly dig this stuff up from?
regards Walter
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