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From: rsullivan@clipr.colorado.edu (Rae Sullivan)
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I am looking for information regarding Amber. What
folklore is associated with this stone - good/bad.
Would the intensity of the stone change with lack
of impurities (insects, etc) trapped within it,
as opposed to a clear stone. Thanks for any
information.
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From: petelev@convex.com (Pete Levinthal)
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In article ,
Rae Sullivan wrote:
>
>I am looking for information regarding Amber. What
>folklore is associated with this stone - good/bad.
>Would the intensity of the stone change with lack
>of impurities (insects, etc) trapped within it,
>as opposed to a clear stone. Thanks for any
>information.
Amber - ranges in color from pale yellow to orange or dark brown. It is
composed of fossilized resins from prehistoric pine trees. It eases stress,
improves memory, overcomes depression and helps the body to heal itself.
Data transcribed from leaflet purchased at Marie Laveau's House of Voodoo
in New Orleans (Rue Bourbon).
I hope that this helps. Anyone know of a gemstone server with all of this
data on-line?
Agur...
Pete
From tinne@eskimo.com Sun Oct 2 01:10:31 EDT 1994
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In article ,
Rae Sullivan wrote:
>
>I am looking for information regarding Amber. What
>folklore is associated with this stone - good/bad.
>Would the intensity of the stone change with lack
>of impurities (insects, etc) trapped within it,
>as opposed to a clear stone. Thanks for any
>information.
Hi. Amber and jet both have two characteristics in common. They, when
rubbed with wool, silk or cotton build up a static charge that attracts
dust. Traditionally, in some religious groups in ancient Greece, the
necklace worn by the High Priest or High Priestess was made of
alternating amber and jet beads because of this ability supposedly being
proof of the high energy inherent in the stones.
Both Jet (a gem formed from the original coal, but not yet a diamond)
and Amber (a gem formed from the resin of certain sap prodoucing trees)
are vegetative in origin.
@}->- :) Tinne Laughter Heals :D -<-{@
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From: tmptru@eua.ericsson.se (Truls Parsson)
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I was wondering wich gemstones are normally connected to healing and what are their powers.
The Troll (a.k.a Truls Pärsson)
Ps. Is this group alive ?
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In article <37bmee$t6a@euas20.eua.ericsson.se>,
Truls Parsson wrote:
>I was wondering wich gemstones are normally connected to healing and
what are their powers.
>
>The Troll (a.k.a Truls Pärsson)
>
>Ps. Is this group alive ?
I archive this newsgroup in my alternative healthcare Gopher at sunSITE.
You should find answers to your question there.
Access:
anonymous FTP:
ftp sunSITE.unc.edu
cd pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/discussion-groups/newsgroups
cd alt.folklore.gemstones
Gopher:
gopher sunsite.unc.edu
The Worlds of sunSITE
Browse sunsite archives
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From jboggess@owlnet.rice.edu Sat Oct 15 00:33:47 EDT 1994
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From: jboggess@owlnet.rice.edu (Jennifer Carolyn Boggess)
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In article <37bmee$t6a@euas20.eua.ericsson.se>, tmptru@eua.ericsson.se (Truls Parsson) writes:
|> I was wondering wich gemstones are normally connected to healing and what are their powers.
|>
Amber. Hematite. Most stones have some sort of healing/medicinal
attributions.
Let me get a reference and get back to you.
--
- Boggles
jboggess@owlnet.rice.edu
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From tkslick@netaxs.com Tue Oct 25 13:42:23 EDT 1994
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From: tkslick@netaxs.com (TKslick)
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From: s925955@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (XTC Spectrei)
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Hiya peoples :)
Can anyone please inform me of the properties of rose quartz, I understand
it has the properties of healing and love, but I'm not sure.
Tankx :)
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From susanm@indirect.com Sat Nov 5 21:36:17 EST 1994
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From: susanm@indirect.com (Susan C. Mitchell)
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XTC Spectrei (s925955@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU) wrote:
: Hiya peoples :)
: Can anyone please inform me of the properties of rose quartz, I understand
: it has the properties of healing and love, but I'm not sure.
"Healing and love" -- that about covers it, from what I understand.
Diane Stein (_Women's Spirituality Book_, _Women's Book of Healing_) uses
it for the Heart chakra, as an alternative to the more traditional green
stones:
"Rose quartz, a massive form of quartz, opens the heart, particularly if
worn as a necklace or in a bag over the breastbone. Emotional release
results from this, and the healing that follows this release. The stone
is also used for a loving, positive outlook and emotional state, for
forgiveness, self-acceptance and cheering. Rose quartz stimulates a
feeling of oneness with the goddess' universe. In healing, use rose
quartz for heartache and emotional pain, for dis-ease of the throat,
ears, nose and sinuses, for the kidneys and high blood pressure and for
adults recovering from abused childhoods."
And, to again quote Stein: "Patriarchal law requires that I make this
disclaimer: no attempt is made in this book to claim cures. In time of
illness, see the care-giver of your choice." (For "book," substitute
"Usenet article.")
Think globally, act locally.
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From sjd121@psu.edu Sun Nov 6 09:31:46 EST 1994
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From: sjd121@psu.edu (Sara J Dymek)
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Does anyone ahve any info about garnets? They're my favorites, but the
closest I can find in my admittedly limited resources is ruby, and I know
that's not right. Any additional comments would be appreciated.
Sara J Dymek "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
--Albert Einstein
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Anyone know the properties of hematite? It is one of my favorites for
especially rings and necklaces.
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From: petelev@convex.com (Pete Levinthal)
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In article <1994Nov2.165916.76598@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>,
Magik Girl wrote:
>Anyone know the properties of hematite? It is one of my favorites for
>especially rings and necklaces.
>
Hematite - is an iron oxide, gray to black in color, sometimes having deep red
spots on the surface. It is found in the U.S., Brazil and Canada. Ancient
healers used it for headaches, blood disorders and hysteria. It is
energizing and enhances personal magnetism.
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Does anyone here know of any newsgroup or email list that focuses on
rockhounding and/or lapidary?
Amberlyn
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Sara J Dymek (sjd121@psu.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone ahve any info about garnets? They're my favorites, but the
: closest I can find in my admittedly limited resources is ruby, and I know
: that's not right. Any additional comments would be appreciated.
: Sara J Dymek "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
: --Albert Einstein
Hey! Here ya go!:
Source: Minerals Of The World, Walter Schumann - Sterling Publishing
(GREAT book!)
Garnet
A group of differently colored minerals with similar crystal structures.
Streak white. Mohs' hardness 6 1/2 - 7 1/2. Specific gravity 3.40-4.32.
Characteristics: all colors except blue. Lustre: vitreous, greasy,
resinous; translucent to opaque. Cleavage: incomplete. Fracture:
conchoidal to splintery, brittle. Crystals: (cubic) rhombododecohedral,
icositerahedron; intergrowth, and surficial growth; seldom twinning.
Aggregates: rough, grainy to dense; present in metomorphic rocks, also as
gravel and sand in alluvial deposits. Accompanied by: quartz, feldspars,
mica, calcite, chlorite, idocrase, magnetite, chromite, wallastonite.--
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In article <393bc2$6at@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> s925955@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (XTC Spectrei) writes:
>From: s925955@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (XTC Spectrei)
>Subject: Rose Quartz
>Date: 31 Oct 1994 18:00:34 GMT
>Hiya peoples :)
>Can anyone please inform me of the properties of rose quartz, I understand
>it has the properties of healing and love, but I'm not sure.
>Tankx :)
>--
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> | ' ` * Your undoing can answer the questions you didn't have" * ' ` |
Dunno about healing, haven't read about that, but it is definitely (almost
universally) associated with love in all its forms, as also innocence. I make
a habit of charging rose quartz and giving it to people I love strongly as
a link between my spirit and theirs. It works. Try it. ;-)
John E."Papa John" Mayer
papajohn@cybernetics.net
"I'm easy...I ain't cheap, but I'm easy!"
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In article sjd121@psu.edu (Sara J Dymek) writes:
>From: sjd121@psu.edu (Sara J Dymek)
>Subject: What about garnets?
>Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 18:59:30 GMT
>Does anyone ahve any info about garnets? They're my favorites, but the
>closest I can find in my admittedly limited resources is ruby, and I know
>that's not right. Any additional comments would be appreciated.
>Sara J Dymek "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
> --Albert Einstein
I don't have my books available right now, but I do remember that garnet is a
very powerful charm against nightmares. It is also used in conjunction with
golden topaz to enhance productivity.
John E."Papa John" Mayer
papajohn@cybernetics.net
"I'm easy...I ain't cheap, but I'm easy!"
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I'm interested in finding out about the curses which each gemstone is
supposed to carry, e.g. opals being bad luck, "pearls are for tears",
etc. It's really the "species" folklore I'm looking for, as opposed to
individual gems (such as the Hope diamond).
Can anyone help? Or point me in the direction of a reference? Thanks.
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From: petelev@convex.com (Pete Levinthal)
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In article <1994Nov7.180725.27172@lafn.org>, Gina Black wrote:
>
>I'm interested in finding out about the curses which each gemstone is
>supposed to carry, e.g. opals being bad luck, "pearls are for tears",
>etc. It's really the "species" folklore I'm looking for, as opposed to
>individual gems (such as the Hope diamond).
This isn't really a story about the "curses" associated w/opals, but could
give a clue to their purported "bad luck". Hope this helps..
Pete
Opals - are precious white or milky stones with shifting colors inside. They
are extremely sensitive and must be treated with great care, because if
cracked they will lose the water they contain which is responsible for their
opalescence. Opals are best worn on the left hand, as far away from the body
as possible. When worn properly, they emit love to others. Opals can enhance
cosmic consciousness and bring love, joy, creativity and intuition. However,
any time one feels uncomfortable wearing an Opal, the stone should be removed;
because an Opal can intensify one's emotional state.
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In article papajohn@cybernetics.net (John Mayer) writes:
>>Does anyone ahve any info about garnets? They're my favorites, but the
>>closest I can find in my admittedly limited resources is ruby, and I know
>>that's not right. Any additional comments would be appreciated.
I remember something about Afghani tribesmen who used to make bullets out of
garnets, on the basis of sympathetic magic...i.e. the dark-blood color of the
stone would itself cause or worsen wounds. But this was over a century ago.
A good book to check for legends and lore would be George Frederick Kunz's
__The Curious Lore of Precious Stones__ from Dover. I hope I've got the names
right, it's been two decades since I read it .
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> Does anyone here know of any newsgroup or email list that focuses on
> rockhounding and/or lapidary?
>
> Amberlyn
>
There are 2 that I know of:
rockhounds@infodyn.com
To subscribe, send an email to
rockhounds-request@infodyn.com
with the word "subscribe" in the subject line.
rocks-and-fossils@world.std.com
Subscribe via majordomo@world.std.com.
HTH,
TC
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Hematite used to be ground to powder to stop bleeding
especially in hemophiliacs,in medieval times up to the last
century. Hematite amulets were also popular and mentioned in
Pliny's "naturalis historia" We also have rare hematite scarab
>from circa 800 B.C. Egyptian, which were used also as amulets
we hear even though this is the first one we've seen from this
period.
steve-212-221-1145
tinne@eskimo.com (Susan Profit) wrote:
>
>
>
>In article , Elspeth
>Sapphire wrote:
>>nona@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Magik Girl) writes:
>>-> Anyone know the properties of hematite? It is one
>of my favorites
>>-> for especially rings and necklaces.
>>I tend to use it for two things, grounding and
>healings.
>>Elspeth Sapphire
>>
>Natural cabachons of hematite can be used for scrying,
>according to a friend who does. YOu have to be
>extremely careful of the tendency of the hematite to
>get a scratched (and then rusted in the scratches)
>surface by protecting it carefully with cloth or other
>soft wrappings. But an unscratched hematite surface is
>incredible for dark mirror scrying she says.
> @}->- :) Tinne Laughter Heals :D -<-{@
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From: babylon@pipeline.com (Stephen Kilnisan)
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the only unlucky thing about opals is not having them. many
peolple aren't lucky enough to have found a nice rich in color
one with plenty of fire. once you own one you will see how
unlucky people who don't owm one are.
steve-Traders of Babylon Fine Jewelers-212-221-1145
kaoldham@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Katherine A Oldham) wrote:
>
>
>My understanding of the opal=bad luck story is a
>little different..
>
>I was told by a respected estate jewelery dealer the
>following story.. seems that in victorian times/turn
>of the century opals were prized very highly, and were
>quite rare. They commanded very high prices and were
>in high demand. Now, during the midst of this, opals
>were discovered in Australia, and flooded the market.
>suddenly all the opals that the nobility/wealthy had
>purchased were worthless. Hence, opals are
>unlucky....
>
>don't know the validity of the tale, but it's an
>interesting story at any rate. sorry i don't have a
>book to point you to for more info. Please post if
>you find one, as i would be interested in reading it
>too.
>
>-Katy
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hematite was used by grinding up to stop bleeding and aid
hemophilliacs to stopping bleeding since at least medeival
times. Pliny mentions the many uses in his "naturalis
historias". we happen to have a very interesting example of a
hematite amulet from 800 B.C. egyptian scarab.
() wrote:
>
>
>
>In article , Elspeth
>Sapphire wrote:
>>nona@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Magik Girl) writes:
>>-> Anyone know the properties of hematite? It is one
>of my favorites
>>-> for especially rings and necklaces.
>>I tend to use it for two things, grounding and
>healings.
>>Elspeth Sapphire
>>
>Natural cabachons of hematite can be used for scrying,
>according to a friend who does. YOu have to be
>extremely careful of the tendency of the hematite to
>get a scratched (and then rusted in the scratches)
>surface by protecting it carefully with cloth or other
>soft wrappings. But an unscratched hematite surface is
>incredible for dark mirror scrying she says.
> @}->- :) Tinne Laughter Heals :D -<-{@
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Ambers are fossilized resins from pines. They are also complex mixtures, for
what the principal components are polymerized terpens, from 10 to 40 carbons.
However, the point is that polymerization of terpens normally gives flexible
rubbers, except if the mixture can get a high degree of reticulation.
Chemists know that reticulated products cannot melt at high temperature,
however, the amber does!... What is the process of fossilization? What
happens during 40 millions of years to these natural resins?... The answer
is maybe in the book (I don't have it!) from Poinar "Life Remember?", Stanford
University Press. Could anyone give me a clue?
Thanks !
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In article boule@chm.ulaval.ca (Anne Nabet) writes:
>From: boule@chm.ulaval.ca (Anne Nabet)
>Subject: Re: how does the amber form?
>Keywords: amber.terpens.geology.archeology.gems.
>Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 00:26:05 GMT
>In article boule@chm.ulaval.ca (Claude Guay)
>writes:
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>Ambers are fossilized resins from pines. They are also complex mixtures, for
>what the principal components are polymerized terpens, from 10 to 40 carbons.
>However, the point is that polymerization of terpens normally gives flexible
>rubbers, except if the mixture can get a high degree of reticulation.
>Chemists know that reticulated products cannot melt at high temperature,
>however, the amber does!... What is the process of fossilization? What
>happens during 40 millions of years to these natural resins?... The answer
>is maybe in the book (I don't have it!) from Poinar "Life Remember?", Stanford
>University Press. Could anyone give me a clue?
>Thanks !
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>/ hpcc01:alt.folklore.gemstones / sjd121@psu.edu (Sara J Dymek) / 10:59 am Nov 1, 1994 /
>Does anyone ahve any info about garnets? They're my favorites, but the
>closest I can find in my admittedly limited resources is ruby, and I know
>that's not right. Any additional comments would be appreciated.
>Sara J Dymek "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
> --Albert Einstein
>----------
Hi Sara,
Garnet is garnet. It comes in all colors, purple, green, yellow, etc.
It is certainly not a ruby. Get yourself a gem book from the bookstore
and learn about the different kinds of minerals that make up these gems.
Jay
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shain@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jay Shain) writes:
>>/ hpcc01:alt.folklore.gemstones / sjd121@psu.edu (Sara J Dymek) / 10:59 am Nov 1, 1994 /
>>Does anyone ahve any info about garnets? They're my favorites, but the
>>closest I can find in my admittedly limited resources is ruby, and I know
>>that's not right. Any additional comments would be appreciated.
>Garnet is garnet. It comes in all colors, purple, green, yellow, etc.
>It is certainly not a ruby. Get yourself a gem book from the bookstore
>and learn about the different kinds of minerals that make up these gems.
I agree with your thought. But from a folklore point of view, garnet
and ruby really aren't all that different in a lot of ways. Most of
the folklore ascribed to either is based on Sympathetic Magic. So if
the stones look alike, similar uses will often be ascribed to them.
FWIW.
Walk in Power,
Crone
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In crone@netcom.com (Crone) writes:
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>shain@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jay Shain) writes:
>
>>>/ hpcc01:alt.folklore.gemstones / sjd121@psu.edu (Sara J Dymek) /
10:59 am Nov 1, 1994 /
>>>Does anyone ahve any info about garnets? They're my favorites, but
the
>>>closest I can find in my admittedly limited resources is ruby, and I
know
>>>that's not right. Any additional comments would be appreciated.
>
>>Garnet is garnet. It comes in all colors, purple, green, yellow, etc.
>>It is certainly not a ruby. Get yourself a gem book from the
bookstore
>>and learn about the different kinds of minerals that make up these
gems.
>
>Anyone have any information on moonstones? I adore them and am drawn to
them but they are so hard to find both info on and sources to obtain
them. Thanks!
EFord
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Ford) wrote:
> >Anyone have any information on moonstones? I adore them and am drawn to
> them but they are so hard to find both info on and sources to obtain
> them. Thanks!
Moonstone is a type of opalescent feldspar, usually white or bluish-white.
Obviously, they are traditionally associated with the moon and were/are
often thought of as sacred to lunar goddesses, such as Selene; they are
often set in silver, traditionally a lunar metal.
According to Scott Cunningham, moonstones can be used for scrying and
supposedly increase one's natural psychic abilities. They are also
a lovers' stone.
--
- Boggles
jboggess@owlnet.rice.edu
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Is there anyone home on this board?
Can anybody answer some questions for me about gemstones and their
connection to mysticism and meditation? I'm looking for what might pass
for an authority in this field. Please mail me privately.
Thanks
From sportiga@uoguelph.ca Sat Dec 3 22:26:19 EST 1994
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From: sportiga@uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
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Read alt.config, and take this offthe ridiculous choice of groups you posted
to.
alt.folklore.gemstones? Fuck
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From 2mi6reinfeld@vms.csd.mu.edu Sun Dec 4 17:04:34 EST 1994
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In <00988388.D5A36E88@vms.csd.mu.edu> 2mi6reinfeld@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
In amclghln@tcd.ie (Austyn Mcloughlin) writes:
>>Anybody else think that they deserve their own newsgroup?
>Yea ,Definitly but how does one set it up ??
I don't know myself, net terrorism and general paint throwing perhaps?
Dan
From m_spagno@husky1.stmarys.ca Thu Dec 15 20:53:31 EST 1994
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From: m_spagno@husky1.stmarys.ca
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what is it?
what's it for?
From m_spagno@husky1.stmarys.ca Thu Dec 15 20:53:32 EST 1994
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where can I get some?
From m_spagno@husky1.stmarys.ca Fri Dec 16 13:39:32 EST 1994
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Subject: MOLDAVITE/DREAMSTONE
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RE: moldavite
I made the posting earlier asking
calling it a "Dreamstone" was
related to what piqued my interest
in moldavite. This is what I have
heard about it. Does anyone have
more info one the "Dreamstone"
aspect?
about moldavite. The response I got
From sunnyway@aol.com Sat Dec 17 22:54:10 EST 1994
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From: sunnyway@aol.com (Sunnyway)
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In article <3cgacl$326@crl9.crl.com>, roadgoat@crl.com (Timothy Wong)
writes:
Jade doesn't change color, but Alexandrite does. Bluish-greenish in
outdoor light, sort of reddish-lavender in artificial light. Star
saphires can fade if kept in the dark for years. Some stones change color
when irradiated, quartz and diamonds, for example.
From sleeping@rahul.net Mon Dec 19 00:38:47 EST 1994
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In article <3cgkq1$394@newsbf01.news.aol.com>,
Sunnyway wrote:
>In article <3cgacl$326@crl9.crl.com>, roadgoat@crl.com (Timothy Wong)
>writes:
>
>Jade doesn't change color, but Alexandrite does. Bluish-greenish in
>outdoor light, sort of reddish-lavender in artificial light. Star
>saphires can fade if kept in the dark for years. Some stones change color
>when irradiated, quartz and diamonds, for example.
does anyone know where to get alexandrite jewelry?
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From pciszek@nyx10.cs.du.edu Mon Dec 19 00:38:48 EST 1994
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From: pciszek@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
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dawn@MCS.COM (Dawn E. Kuczwara) writes:
>Sunnyway (sunnyway@aol.com) wrote:
>: Jade doesn't change color, but Alexandrite does. Bluish-greenish in
>: outdoor light, sort of reddish-lavender in artificial light. Star
>: saphires can fade if kept in the dark for years. Some stones change color
>: when irradiated, quartz and diamonds, for example.
>Yes, but both of the stones that you listed are man made.....
There *is* naturally occuring alexandrite. Natural star saphires also exist.
Naturally irradiated quartz is common, I don't know about diamonds.
Paul Ciszek No nation is drunken where wine is cheap.
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From: papajohn@cybernetics.net (John Mayer)
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In article <3cl0rc$snc@knot.queensu.ca> 3rgd@qlink.queensu.ca (Darragh R Graeme) writes:
>From: 3rgd@qlink.queensu.ca (Darragh R Graeme)
>Subject: Bloodstone info
>Date: 13 Dec 1994 20:40:12 GMT
> I'm just looking for a little information on bloodstone. I mean
>other than knowing that it can be used as a birthstone for March I'm
>pretty much lost. Thanks.
>Graeme
Bloodstone helps the circulatory system, detoxifies the blood,
and increases courage. Benefits bones, heart, and reproductive
organs, counteracts tumors. Also called heliotrope. Supposedly
promotes extremes of weather.
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From jtoedter@ub.d.umn.edu Mon Dec 19 11:46:17 EST 1994
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From: jtoedter@ub.d.umn.edu (john toedter)
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:In article <3cigme$kb8@mars.mcs.com>, Dawn E. Kuczwara wrote:
:>Sunnyway (sunnyway@aol.com) wrote:
:>: In article <3cgacl$326@crl9.crl.com>, roadgoat@crl.com (Timothy Wong)
:>: writes:
:>
:>: Jade doesn't change color, but Alexandrite does. Bluish-greenish in
:>: outdoor light, sort of reddish-lavender in artificial light. Star
:>: saphires can fade if kept in the dark for years. Some stones change color
:>: when irradiated, quartz and diamonds, for example.
:>
:>Yes, but both of the stones that you listed are man made.....
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Correction, Alexanderite and Star Saphires CAN be man made, but
they are NOT only man made. Both are incredibly rare naturally occuring
minerals that cost a fortune for the natural ones. They value at
something like several times (5Xs? for Alexanderites) the cost of a
similiarly sized diamond. The price actully is on par with their rarity.
They are FAR more rare then diamonds are or other precious stones.
Alexanderites are listed as one of the June birth stones (along with
Pearl [which isn't a stone, but we can save that for later ;) ] and
another or possibly several others). I don't know about the Folklore of
Star Saphires other than a story I was told by my Grandfather (Who was a
geologist), who said that one of the geologists he was friends with (and
I guess this friend of his was rich because of oil exploration work he
did, which explains how he could afford it) gave his wife a natural Star
Saphire as part of a wedding ring that was greater than a Karat (maybe
several, it's been awhile since I heard the story). Anyway that is why I
remember that Star Saphires are so rare.
I hope this helped clear up any confusion.
John
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In article <3cfs9s$39s@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, rotnapple@aol.com
(RotnApple) writes:
Moldavite is in fact a tektite from outer space --it's also a channeling
stone and you can obtain rough pieces at gemstone shows; new age stores
carry them --or you can buy one on Home Shopping Club (whose rates are far
more reasonable than most gemshows... oddly enough...)
From sunnyway@aol.com Tue Dec 20 11:01:55 EST 1994
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From: sunnyway@aol.com (Sunnyway)
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Subject: Alexandrite jewelry
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In article <3cjg22$8eo@hustle.rahul.net>, sleeping@rahul.net writes:
::Where can one get alexandrite jewelry::
I've seen it advertised in jewelry store ads in the Chicago area. I can't
quote you which jewelry store, but you might ask a local jeweler. If he
doesn't carry it, he might be able to get it.
From jamiefostr@aol.com Fri Dec 23 00:54:33 EST 1994
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From: jamiefostr@aol.com (JamieFostr)
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Subject: Re: Alexandrite jewelry
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In article <3cra3r$eec@newsbf01.news.aol.com>, sunnyway@aol.com (Sunnyway)
writes:
Our store has alexandrite, as do many jewlery stores that specialize in
"colored stones." For more info, E-Mail me privately at JamieFostr@aol.com
As for value, alexandrites can be far more valuable than a mere 5x similar
diamonds. This has to do with the fact that stones are extremely rare in
sizes around 10ct. At this size they become museum pieces - sell yours
and retire.
For a real bit of trivia, the highest price ever paid per carat for a
gemstone was for a red diamond, less than a carat, round brilliant cut,
that wasn't all that great looking. It sold for just under $1,000,000/ct.
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Subject: What gem should I wear to a job interview?
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What gem should I wear to a job interview?
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From: benitoite@aol.com (Benitoite)
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Subject: Re: Folklore/info on jade
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Alright, let's put this one to bed. Jade does change color, for several
reasons. One: skin oils can penetrate the surface and fill minute cracks
at the surface and seemingly darken the color of natural jade. Two: if the
jade was dyed, then the dye substance can, over time, come out or be
effected by sunlight to become lighter in color. Three, your jade is
dirty, and needs to be cleaned.
Actually, there are two kinds of jade. The most commonly seen in stores
would be the lighter to good green, which is jadeite. This can also come
purplish, but most of that material is dyed, but cannot be detected. Most
jadeite is white, and only a small amount, usually in bands, has any color
at all. The second kind of jade is nephrite (that's right, two different
and distinct species), and is typically dark green. This species is found
in Wyoming and New Zealand.
Now, alexandrites and star sapphires are natural stones, but as someone
also said, they can be synthesized. The claasic locality for alexandrites
is in the Ural Mountains in Russia, but they also come from Lake Manyara
in Kenya, and recently, from Brazil. This last locality produced some
large material, but in my opinion, is a little dark. Actually, synthetic
alexandrite is fairly rare itself, with most of the stones sold as
"synthetic alexandrite" being synthetic color-change sapphire.
Star sapphires are produced in quantity today, mostly from Sri Lanka, but
thirty years ago, were being produced synthetically by Linde Corp., part
of Union Carbide! As time goes by, even these synthetic stones are
difficult to come by (they are easily identified by a fancy "L" engraved
on the bottom of the stones).
Just because your local jewelry store doesn't have these items doesn't
mean that they don't exist. The next time a gem & mineral show comes
through your town, go to it and look at the number of stones that are
available on the market. If it's not one of the "Big Four" (diamond, ruby
sapphire, emerald), your local jeweler probably wouldn't even know
anything else existed.
Many good books on gems available at your bookstore, with a lot more info
than I can write here. Good luck!
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From: nira2u@aol.com (Nira2U)
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Subject: Re: What gem should I wear to a job interview?
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lapis lazuli & rose quartz
Your eyes are the windows of your soul... And some of you need contact
lenses!
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I'd suggest wearing something You own and something You wear rather than
It wearing you....under that standard almost anything goes.
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From: sunnyway@aol.com (Sunnyway)
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In addition to lapis and rose quartz, I'd add sugelite and sodalite and
maybe amethyst. You want to be as calm and at ease as possible, retaining
good judgment and intuitive ability.
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P.S. Carry the crystals in a purse or briefcase, rather than wearing them.
I already got one flame suggesting that one would look rediculous wearing
all this stuff. I assumed (naively) that one would have the sense to know
this. Frankly, the only jewelry I'd wear to a job interview would be
gold: tasteful earings, a wring and a watch.
Good luck on the interview.
Regards,
Sunnyway@aol.com
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N > lapis lazuli & rose quartz
N > Your eyes are the windows of your soul... And some of you need contact
N > lenses!
....the gem to wear to a job interview should be the interviewers
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I recently purchased a moldavite ring. I'm interested
in finding out the history/origin of the stone.
Any info would be appreciated!
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Will someone talk about moonstone. Its history and uses. Thanks.
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From: uklawler@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Lawler Keith)
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Duane Champion (drc3@psu.edu) wrote:
: Will someone talk about moonstone. Its history and uses. Thanks.
Ok, here ya go:
Moonstone is a gem variety of a feldspar. Actually, two different
feldspars; adularia orthoclase (potassium aluminum silicate) or albite
plagioclase (sodium aluminum silicate). They are identical in appearance
and both are considered "true" moonstones. Their are hard (6 to 6.5 on
the Mohs hardness scale) with a vitreous luster. They have a white streak
and are insoluble in all acids save hydroflouric acid. The gem variety of
these is translucent. They come in many different colors from white to
pale blues, creams, yellows, pinks and browns.
Uses:
To the best of my knowledge, there are no known industrial uses for
Adularia Orthoclase. It's only commercial use is as a gemstone. Albite
plagioclase, on the other hand, is an important industrial mineral used
in ceramics and refractories.
History:
Greeks had called the moonstone Aphroselene, a composite of the Moon
Goddess names, Aphrodite and Selene. (Because of the name Selene, some
people confuse selenite gypsom with moonstone. "Selenite" in direct
translation means "moonstone". But it is NOT moonstone. The only gem
called moonstone are the minerals described above.) In India, moonstone
was held sacred by lovers. If kept in the mouth during a full moon, it
was thought to have given the persons prophetic powers. Indian gem
merchants will display it on yellow cloth, the sacred lunar color. The
Basques belived that the moonstone would make its owner serene and placid.
They also believed it was a cure for epilepsy!! It was also believed that
it could be used to see the future during the "crone time" of the waning
moon.
More recent beliefs:
Will help make you invisible.
Can tell "all that has and will be".
Will aid in travelling to the astral plane.
It will increase the yield of plants it is hung on.
Will protect travellers, but especially those traveling over water.
Will help prevent swimming accidents.
Can realign the spine, and treat cancer, edema, ulcers and emotional
problems.
Any questions? Most of the info here was taken from a book called "The
Book of Sacred Stones" by Barbara G Walker. I highly recommend this book
if you have more than a passing interest in stones and minerals.
All in all it is a pretty mineral, even the non-gemstone varieties. I was
at the Gem and Jewelry show in Chicago a few weeks ago, and nice gems were
running a fairly high price (don't remember exactly but maybe
$20.00-$30.00 a carat(???????)). While on the other hand you can find
yourself a nice, natural piece of the non-gem variety for a couple of
bucks.
Hope this helps you out,
Keith
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From: uklawler@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Lawler Keith)
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Carole Carnovale (ccarnova@pc-carnovale.webo.dg.com) wrote:
: I recently purchased a moldavite ring. I'm interested
: in finding out the history/origin of the stone.
: Any info would be appreciated!
Moldavite is a glass. It is a non-crystalline substance that may be
brownish or yellowish but more typically it is a muddy green. They are a
variety of tekite, an "extraterrestrial" mineral. It is believed to form
either on the outside of meteorites, where it is melted and fused while
passing through the atmosphere, or it is was a terrestrial rock that was
melted upon the impact of the meteor.
History:
It is said that moldavite, rather than emerald, was the substance of the
Holy Grail.
Moldavite has many names, depending on where it comes from. Australite
is from Australia, and georgiaite is from the state of Georgia. It is
also called Bouteillenstein, which means "bottle stone". The reason for
this is that moldavite gems are just cut glass and any faceted peice of
darkish green glass can be easily passed of as moldavite.
Keith
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I don't know what type of stones are a gem stone. Should I ask
such a ? I really don't know. Help
Denver Wayne
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Sunnyway (sunnyway@aol.com) wrote:
: In addition to lapis and rose quartz, I'd add sugelite and sodalite and
^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
: maybe amethyst. You want to be as calm and at ease as possible, retaining
: good judgment and intuitive ability.
If she is going to wear lapis lazuli she will be wearing sodalite. The
mineral sodalite is a main portion of the rock lapis lazuli, along with
diopside, streaks of calcite, and pyrite flecks (maybe others??).
If I were her, I would whatever jewelery made her feel most comfortable.
A trick I use is to relax with a stone. I just pick one, doesn't matter
what kind, as long as it has a relaxing appearance (lapis lazuli has very
soothing colors). I associate relaxation with the stone. Then, when I
get nervous, I use the stone as a reminder to relax. I use various
stones to remind me of certain things. When I study for a test, I hold a
stone or keep it near me, then I bring that same stone with me into the
test. It is a symbol for me to focus on when things get out of hand. It
helps me to "step back" from the current situation and remind me of
exactly what it is that I am trying to do.
Keith
From loyl@delphi.com Tue Dec 27 23:06:32 EST 1994
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Hi,
Can anyone tell me the lore about sapphires? Especially black star
sapphires.
Thanks in advance,
Loy
From rachels785@aol.com Tue Dec 27 23:06:33 EST 1994
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Hi all,
I would like to know any legend or lore about aquamarines, and also
any facts. It's my birthstone, so I have a preference for this stone :)
Thanks in advance!
Rachel
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ccarnova@pc-carnovale.webo.dg.com (Carole Carnovale) writes:
>I recently purchased a moldavite ring. I'm interested
>in finding out the history/origin of the stone.
>Any info would be appreciated!
There's a book I saw recently at the library, which I didn't check out.
It's called _Moldavite: Starborn Stone of Transformation_, by Robert
Simmons and Kathy Warner. It was published 1988, has a lot of color
pictures of the stuff, and seems to ramble on in fairly grand style for
a couple of hundred pages. (The authors' claims seems to be a little
"Cure All"-ish, which is why I didn't bother to check it out.)
It was pretty enough, and I suppose I'll check it out eventually, but
I was loaded down with Tom Clancy and James Clavell (gratuitous plug!)
at the time, and likely to have my arms fall off if I tried carrying
anything else.
But I thought I'd at least mention I saw the book, so y'all can go
look into it on your own.
Walk in Balance,
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From: modok@aol.com (MoDok)
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May I suggest a "Pocket Stone"; that is a gem that is large enough to hold
in
your hand for "good luck" but not so expensive that if scratched or lost
you
would feel devistated. Pick a gem that is known for the influence you
desire:
Smokey Quartz is good for relaxation and grounding oneself. It would keep
you from getting nervous and chatting about non esential things.
Citrine is good for safety and the ability to get along with others. To
tune
into the other person's wants and thought paterns.
Amethyst protects against danger especially when traveling and clears
mental
unrest. It initiates wisdom and greater understanding.
If you need more information then call Talisman Catalog 1-800-777-9940 for
a free
catalog of gemstones.
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From: modok@aol.com (MoDok)
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I find this group most fascinating and informative. I have published
Talisman Catalog for 4 years specializing in natural gemstones and their
influences. We have just started researching the possibility of making
gems and jewelry available online. Through Internet or ________? Since you
as subscribers to this forum have good computer and neetwork experience,
if there are any leads you can give me in putting our catalog and products
and services online, then please let me know. All leads would be
appreciated.
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>>>>> "MoDok" == MoDok writes:
In article <3e7l52$djp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> modok@aol.com (MoDok) writes:
MoDok> I find this group most fascinating and informative. I have
MoDok> published Talisman Catalog for 4 years specializing in natural
MoDok> gemstones and their influences. We have just started researching
MoDok> the possibility of making gems and jewelry available
MoDok> online. Through Internet or ________? Since you as subscribers to
MoDok> this forum have good computer and neetwork experience, if there are
MoDok> any leads you can give me in putting our catalog and products and
MoDok> services online, then please let me know. All leads would be
MoDok> appreciated.
Make your catalog available via the World Wide Web. Generally, I think most
netters find this to be the least abusive medium for commercial postings. Then
you could just post non-intrusive messages with pointers, rather than big
bandwidth wasting news articles.
Since your net connection appears to be via AOL, send e-mail to the AOL
adminstrators to see how you might go about making your Web page available via
AOL, or maybe look on news to find a site that will allow you to place your
Web page there.
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From audi.burr@delta.com Fri Jan 6 14:19:43 EST 1995
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Does anyone have any information on byzmuth (I know it's a bit off
topic)? I've held a piece and have gotten some pretty fantastic positive
feelings from it.
Anyone have any opinions on dyed stones? I have two pieces of tiger
eye, one dyed red and another a deep blue. I also have another that
looks like it's been sliced off of a piece of hematite.
Last but not least .. I have another stone given to me for Christmas.
It's 1/4 of a geode (meant to be a bookend!). The outside is a bright
magenta color and continues inside the piece about 1/4". Next is a ring
of clear crystals and then another ring of magenta. Then there's more
smaller crystals that are exposed. It didn't come with any information
on the piece at all, and being new and a bit ignorant, I have no idea
what it is!
Thanx for the information in advance!!
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From rsullivan@clipr.colorado.edu Sat Jan 7 22:53:13 EST 1995
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I have a dear friend that will be receiving a heart
transplant in the very near future. Does anyone have
any suggestions as to what kind of stone would aid
her healing after the surgery. I heard that a chunk
of amythest might help. What about a stone that
could be used for a calming effect until she is called
in for surgery.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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From: uklawler@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Lawler Keith)
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Do you folks REALLY believe in magic crystals???
Keith
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U >
U > Do you folks REALLY believe in magic crystals???
U >
U > Keith
...If it isn't because of the "magic" of the crystal
.....quartz,vibrating,as it does...when current is applied
..... then the computer your using wouldn't work!
but I don't believe ingesting crushed emeralds will improve
my eye sight...but then again I've not tried it.
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Shucks, I'm disappointed to hear that my reddish and bluish tigers eye
stones are probably dyed. I thought I'd lucked into some unusual natural
colorations.
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From: sunnyway@aol.com (Sunnyway)
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Keith, I don't know that users of crystals believe they are "magic", but
we've learned that they do have certain capacity for enhancing skills. It
is a scientific fact that some crystals hold energy like storage
batteries. Other minerals are used as medical compounds.
I know that I am sensitive to obsidian, kyanite, citrine and rose quartz.
I also am attracted to lapis, sodalite and sugelite. Now some of these
are not particularly "pretty" stones, so I'm hard pressed to explain their
attraction. However, I've learned that having discovered an attraction to
a crystal, eventually I will also discover how it will aid me.
Obsidian makes me cry-- drawing out my fears. Rose quartz comforts me, a
warm fuzzy feeling inside. Kyanite centers and grounds me. I an unable to
stay angry if I pick up a kyanite crystal. Citrine amplifies my mood and
psychic energy, sort of a telepathic or empathic booster.
Keith, continue to maintain your skepticism as you explore this concept.
Not every stone will attract you. Not every one will be useful to you.
Keep touching and holding and collecting crystals and other stones and
eventually, I'm confident, you will stunned to discover some to which you
have a sensitivity or bond.
From midiot@holli.com Tue Jan 10 16:58:25 EST 1995
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says...
> but I don't believe ingesting crushed emeralds will improve
> my eye sight...but then again I've not tried it.
You might try making crystal water, take a cleaned crystal, drop it into
a glass jar of spring or distilled water, and leave it overnite. The
water absorbs the energies. You can also make colored waters by using
colored bottles, or wrapping the bottle in the color of tissue paper for
the effect you desire.
Cindy
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From: uklawler@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Lawler Keith)
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MarkDavis wrote:
:> You might try making crystal water, take a cleaned crystal, drop it into
:> a glass jar of spring or distilled water, and leave it overnite. The
:> water absorbs the energies. You can also make colored waters by using
^^^^^^^^
What energies are these Cindy? (Or is it MarkDavis?)
:> colored bottles, or wrapping the bottle in the color of tissue paper for
:> the effect you desire.
You will have much faster (and better) results if you use food coloring.
And exactly what effects does one desire when making colored water?
:> Cindy
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Magic crystals and colored water! I would drop this newsgroup if it
wern't for the laughs I'm getting!!!
Keith
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In article <3esaed$pts@news.ecn.bgu.edu>, uklawler@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu says...
>:> You might try making crystal water, take a cleaned crystal, drop it into
>:> a glass jar of spring or distilled water, and leave it overnite. The
>:> water absorbs the energies. You can also make colored waters by using
> ^^^^^^^^
>What energies are these Cindy? (Or is it MarkDavis?)
It's Cindy... I'm using my hubby's account. Are you denying that everything that exists
possesses an energy? The principle of crushing crystals and eating them is to absorb the energy
the crystal element emits. It is the same principle with the crystal waters and colored waters.
Have you ever heard of colored light therapy for healing? I'm referring to Gem Elixirs and
Vibrational Healing by Gurudus
>
>You will have much faster (and better) results if you use food coloring.
>And exactly what effects does one desire when making colored water?
Possibly, but then you are introducing foreign and sometimes allergic substances into the water
directly. You can reference this type of light use with The Power of Rays, The Science of
Colour-Healing by S. G. J. Ouseley. Some chiropractors have utilized this technique with much
success.
>Magic crystals and colored water! I would drop this newsgroup if it
>wern't for the laughs I'm getting!!!
>
>Keith
I'm glad you have a sense of humour. I was only replying to the previous messages about
crystal vibrations and personal uses of them.
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From jill@jill.seanet.com Sun Jan 15 23:42:50 EST 1995
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From: jill@jill.seanet.com (jill)
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In article <3esaed$pts@news.ecn.bgu.edu>, uklawler@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Lawler Keith) says:
>
>Magic crystals and colored water! I would drop this newsgroup if it
>wern't for the laughs I'm getting!!!
>
>Keith
I agree that talking about rocks and colored water may seem strange,or
comedic. I felt much the same way until a particular piece of quartz
crystal introduced itself to me. This piece of quartz had traveled all
over the country, being handed from person to person until one day it was
handed to a total skeptic/cynic (me). I thought the whole thing was silly,
but being that it was such a well traveled rock, I held on to it. It was
a very persistent crystal, and against my own skepticism led me to dreams,
meditations and healings I would not have been able to imagine. A year later
I sent it on to it's traveling while commencing a long journey of my own.
Perhaps you need some humor in your life and that is why you have chosen
this newsgroup. Or perhaps you are interested in geology, or any other
number of paths that are somewhat different to the ones you are presently
following. As I came in late to this discussion, I don't know what the
original intent was, but I know that a journey sometimes starts in places
you would never have consciously chosen. Good luck on your path(s).
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From: sunnyway@aol.com (Sunnyway)
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Subject: Re: "Magic" Crystals???
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Thanks, Jill, that was my experience also. I was a total skeptic until an
obsidian globe made a believer out of me. I don't mind skeptics, I just
keep handing them more stones.
I think a good point has been made by the various responses. I haven't
heard anyone say that crystals are "magic", but there are many who
experience _something_ that leads them to the conclusion that crystals are
conduits of the power source. We experience the power source in many
ways--some of us in fundamentalist religious faith, others in metaphysical
experiences. The power source and its manifestations exist regardless of
our belief systems.
From radarman@halcyon.com Sun Jan 15 23:42:52 EST 1995
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From: radarman@halcyon.com (radarman@halcyon.com)
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Introducing TreasureNet, a place for treasure hunters to swap information,
advertise their products, or just enjoy the stories.
http://www.halcyon.com/Treasure/TreasureNet.html
Please let me know how you like it.
Thanks,
Marc
From Jarl@wyrd.demon.co.uk Sun Jan 15 23:42:53 EST 1995
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From: Jarl@wyrd.demon.co.uk (Jarl Love)
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In article audi.burr@delta.com "Audi Burr" writes:
> Does anyone have any information on byzmuth (I know it's a bit off
> topic)? I've held a piece and have gotten some pretty fantastic positive
> feelings from it.
The bismuth that's available from Germany or the States is the pure metal
(refined from wismud) which has been melted in a graphite crucible then allowed
to cool slowly under inert gases perhaps usually poured out over wires whereupon
it grows into incredible crystal shapes bursting into all the colours of the
rainbow in the process.
It is of special interest because it happens to be impervious to gamma
radiation. Often a layer of wismud is found between any naturally radio-active
minerals in the ground and the surface so it protects the animals and plants
above from harm. In nuclear power stations, plutonium sources are kept in vats
made of bismuth and even X-Ray operator's special protective gloves are dusted
with it. People buy crystals from us to counteract (or somehow immunize them-
selves?) against harmful rays pouring out of their computer screens and tv sets
or when they go for x-rays. We link it alchemically to Uranus.
> Anyone have any opinions on dyed stones?
We don't traffic in them because colour is usually integral to how a crystal
works so it defeats the purpose of looking to nature for cures and benefits.
It confuses the issue for us and the crystals.
> I have two pieces of tiger eye, one dyed red
We sell naturally red tiger eye from Australia. It picked up the redness from
haematite in its surroundings while it was crystallising out of asbestos. South
Africa has no naturally red tiger eye so they dye some of their own yellow tiger
stone to red.
> and another a deep blue.
Deep blue tiger eye known as hawk's eye is a naturally occuring colour. We have
never heard of this being dyed. However blue may be produced from yellow by
using heat to change the states of iron. This mimicry of nature is pretty hard
to detect.
> I also have another that
> looks like it's been sliced off of a piece of hematite.
This is tiger iron: it is mostly from Australia so it should be undyed.
> Last but not least .. I have another stone given to me for Christmas.
> It's 1/4 of a geode (meant to be a bookend!). The outside is a bright
> magenta color and continues inside the piece about 1/4". Next is a ring
> of clear crystals and then another ring of magenta. Then there's more
> smaller crystals that are exposed. It didn't come with any information
> on the piece at all, and being new and a bit ignorant, I have no idea
> what it is!
This is a nodule of agate with quartz most likely from Brazil where they tend
to dye any agate that doesn't look fantastic enough to sell otherwise.
Crypto-crystalline agate is porous so it soaks up colour like a sponge leaving
any big impervious quartz crystals inside clear/white in contrast. This magenta
colour and inky blue are the most popular unnatural colours.
Try to find a shop near you that doesn't sell dyed stones.
Jarl
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17d Station Parade,Kew Gardens,Surrey TW9 3PS U.K. Opposite Kew Gardens Station.
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From: nira2u@aol.com (Nira2U)
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notsomuch magic as USEFUL--what are you afraid of?!
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From: sac62489@saclink1.csus.edu (Starlette L. Vaughn)
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Does anyone out there know the significance of garnets? I had a dream in
which they figured prominently, in the form of a bracelet.
Let me know...
Thanks,
Star
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Subject: Re: Copper and Silver, sometimes gold...
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Traditionally, copper bracelets are worn to treat arthritis.
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From: SunAngel@ix.netcom.com (Angelia Bate)
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In <3fhki2$ns4@news.csus.edu> sac62489@saclink1.csus.edu (Starlette L.
Vaughn) writes:
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>Does anyone out there know the significance of garnets? I had a dream
in
>which they figured prominently, in the form of a bracelet.
>
>Let me know...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Star
>
Hi Star!
Garnet represents devotion, to yourself, to others, or to a goal. It
awakens creativity and inspires love and passion. It attracts good luck
and regenerates the body, protecting it from toxins, anemia, and
disorder. It is a stone that brings balance.
Sweet dreams!!
Angelia
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i may have a copy around this messy house somewhere - i can look but it
will take time! your jewelry sounds wonderful...
From starling1@delphi.com Fri Jan 27 20:44:39 EST 1995
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******* THIS IS NOT AN AD!******Just hoping to start a "thread"
In America Online's Graphics section under the search
name ABRAXAS.GIF, I have uploaded an enlarged picture of a Gnostic Gem showing
the symbol Abraxas carved in Heliotrope(Bloodstone) set in 14kt. gold and
Sterling Silver. It is thought to be an original(1st Cent.A D to 1500's)
Gnostic carving and is shown on page 126 of "The Curious Lore of Prescious
Stones" by F.Kunz. The image is cut "Intaglio" meaning cut into the stone
like a seal for sealing wax. The stone was left to me when I was 17 by my
Father who was a lifelong collector of artifacts and antiquities and I have
had it for 30 years. I am a Jewelry Designer/Gemcutter and set the stone
myself in this pendant about 10 years ago. To celebrate my 25th year as a
Jeweler(1995) I have made a mold of the stone in the pendant and I am making a
limited edition of 50-14KT.Gold and 100-Sterling Silver reproductions of the
stone and pendant. And will have a picture of #1(Artists Copy) which is in
22+KT. Online in this same section soon. Anyone with interest or
information about Abraxas or the Gnostics or Gem carving please contact
GEMSTAR588@AOL.com or Starling1@Delphi.com Thanx and Enjoy!
----Paul S. Tapley
"A rock IS a hard place"
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Does anybody know when the dealers will pull up from Quartzide and go the the
Tucson international? I want to attend the Quartzide show but I want to get
there before the big guys pull out for the big show. I hope to see some of you at
this year's show.
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