Area: I:OOBE
  Msg#: 2080                                         Date: 09-19-93  09:15
  From: Glenda Stocks
    To: All
  Subj: Planes in the desert

               Original From: CARLOS MANZANARES
   FORWARDED              To: ALL
    MESSAGE      Date/Number: 09/15/93 - 0013803
                          On: PC-OHIO - 1166 - PARANORMAL-IN
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I had an interesting astral projection - at least I believe it was an
a/p.  It happened near the fourth of July, either the fourth, fifth or
sixth (the exact date I am not sure of as I have been a bad boy and not
keeping my dream diary since the move - something I really must start
again).

I went to bed attempting an a/p.  My conscience awoke to find me in the
desert.  It was dark.  There was a tall fence behind me.  The fence was
capped with barbed wire, the kind that leans out, away from then fence.
It was interesting, I noted, that the barbed wire leaned both away, and
into the fenced area.  As if to serve two purposes.  Leaning out to keep
people out, and leaning in, to keep people in.  There was a sign on the
fence, but I could not read it, as the signs back was turned toward me.
I had no desire to read it, as I knew it would boast a warning to keep
out, that this was a military installation, and that the fence was
electrified.  I could see large, round gas tanks.  Military trucks of
all sorts were parked here and there.  People in uniform moving
around, taking no notice of me whatsoever.  Guards, with guns and dogs
on leashes.  One dog seemed to be uneasy when it was walked by me.  Then
I saw it.  It looked like a commercial jumbo jet, only bigger.  But
there was something else besides the size that looked odd.  There were
engines on it's rudder fin.  The plane was moving down a runway, but the
engines were not firing.  As the plane headed down the runway, the tail
section seperated.  There was something inside, another aircraft, but
smaller.  As the plane lifted off the runway, the nose section split in
two pieces, down the center, and fell to the runway.  Then, very odd
shaped black air craft darte upwards, into the night sky.  I could not
get a good look at the craft, as it was simply to fast.  I don't know
why but I had no desire to follow it.

As I looked around, I noticed somebody in an Army uniform by a door to a
large building.  I knew the building would lead underground (how this
was know, I haven't the foggiest).  Then I realized I must be somewhere
I shouldn't be able to get into, even in the astral realm.  As I looked
at the man in the olive drab garb, I noticed he was looking directly at
me.  He could see me!  Not only that, but he RECOGNIZED ME!  I don't
know how, I do not recall ever seeing this person before.   Once he saw
that I knew he could see me, he quickly ducked into the building.  I
tried to follow, but upon entering the building, was frozen and could
not move.  All I could see were  the bright, flourescent lights that was
illuminating the stark white hallway.  I was then yanked back to my body
and woke up.

As I went back to sleep, I found myself about our house, floating
towards the starts, when I tried to go somehere, I was sent back to my
body and woke up.  Upon going back to sleep, I was again heading for the
stars, again, I tried to will myself somehwere else, but only succeeded
in waking myself up.  After several attempts, I simply let my self drift
towards the heavens.  That is the last thing I remember.

Well, that's what I've been up to.  Nothing else spectacular has
happened here.  The prescence that was felt in our house in Kansas City
has not, at least as far as I can tell, followed us here.  NIko has not
awaken in dreadful fright since we arrived.

carlos/denver

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