Area : I_UFO-S
Date : Oct 10 '95, 01:23
From : Paul West, 2:254/284.4
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Subj : Alien Persuasion


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Hi.

As the elements of `wierd' and `unpleasant' haven't joined forces
recently to mount an experience for me, I thought I should be working
some more stuff out about `them' to perhaps hold off such a
possibility.  This might sound like living in fear, except that the
fear isn't there, and I simply recognise the nudges which are given
should I become slack.  What I have certainly found is that if I form
a lull in my progress, something wierd tends to happen to give me a
shove, which can be anything from a bad dream to an `objective'
experience.  Inbetween such experiences I usually embark upon a little
feast of development, even if I haven't planned to, and such a feast
has been going on for several weeks now with the only `wierd'
experience being a few not-too-pleasant dreams and a very pleasant
experience with what is most probably a spiritual guide or some other
etherical entity.

So despite a continual progress ever closer to the truth, I was
inspired today to get and write something a bit more `original' about
the abduction situation.  I read that attacking message against
strieber the other day, but couldn't pluck up enough bother to get and
reply to it.  Then today we have this interesting attempt to explain
abductions, as in the previous messages.  So here goes with something
a bit newer, and perhaps of more help to the handful of abductees who
are here with their fears and anguish.

To start with, I want to look at the appearance of these entities,
firstly with their normally experienced `grey alien' form.  Wether
this is their true form or just a symbolic face is yet to be
discovered.  However, I notice some interesting features about their
makeup.

The eyes, big, dark, and on the most part pretty dam menacing and
penetrative.  I was wondering what this symbolises.  Black is normally
to do with evil, or wrongdoing, and the slanted nature of them can
present, to most if not all people, a menacing and horrendous
appearance, initially.  I am wondering if these eyes are there to
represent the way that we judge everything so dependantly on what we
see.  My main theme for this message is to explore ways in which the
abductions are educational, so I might as well start with the most
dominantly known feature, and I want to approach this by pointing out
ways in which these entities are generally considered to be a negative
of what we'd perhaps consider `nice'.

So maybe these eyes are symbolic of how a lot of our `evil' resides in
what we see.  They are dark and large, perhaps a way to depict the
cruelty, irrationality, and generally `wrong' lifestyle most of us
have.  I have found that there is an overwhelming amount of subjective
experience in every part of life, and that every perception goes forth
to mould the personality.  So, doesn't it then seem fitting that the
prominent element of these encounters is the dark eyes which so
fluently bring forth impressions of evil, power, control, and fear.
It is essentially a manifestation of the `wrong' aspects of the way we
view reality, how we base so much upon having to see to believe, and
how so SO many things are founded in the solidity of perceptions
rather than simply experiencing and intellectually analysing.

So if we say to start with that these eyes are a dominant feature,
what else do they bring to the situation?  Well, after a while, after
a period of time in which the abductee has bore witness to a great
deal of conditioning, they start to find something.  They start to now
see that there is life behind the blackness of the eyes, there is
light, colour, energy, and most of all, peace.  Is this a learning
mechanism in itself? You start out seeing all the things which you
initially associate with -evil, fear, pain, horror, cruelty, control,
etc..  But then, once you have so very firmly associated with these
elements of the eyes, during your slow perceptive persuasion, you then
end up tranforming your view of what these eyes represent, and you no
longer see all those bad things, you start to see love, peace, wisdom,
and life, and during the whole process (because the most important
element of the abductions IS the experience) you are transforming what
you associate to be `bad' into the truth (behind your subjective
sunglasses) of what is in fact `good'.

This single situation, in itself, is a learning process.  We firstly
associate with what we know, and then, over time, we're guided into
seeing what is really there.  In this we also learn not to take things
at face value, learn to overcome fear, learn to look for the beauty in
the world, and learn to see the potential for peace and love if you
would only change the way you perceive.  Another property of the eyes
is that they envelop you into a blissfull darkness, if you allow them.
At first you may struggle, or deny and try to resist them, and they
don't usually force the blackness onto you.  They allow you to dwell
in the blackness to calm and relax you, and to take away the pain of
whatever else might be going on, yet they don't force you to do it.
You have to learn on your own that it is better to cooperate with
these symbols of /real/ control, nature.

The black within the eyes envelops the abductee, and a calming bliss
ensues.  Some particularly lingual abductees have described a feeling
that they can be anywhere in the universe instantly, that they are in
a place of bliss and love, and that everything is very, very open.
This experience is reflective of death.  This situation is an
education against the fear of death.  First people are subjected to
what they initially perceive to be painful and intrusive procedures,
and they are offered escape to a soothing bliss.  Having begun by
associating strongly with the fear and pain of the procedures, they
now, as with the appearance of the eyes, start to learn and grow to
the experience, and now instead of experiencing pain or intrusion,
they can learn to be calm and unafraid, and in doing so learn that
what was once their normal reaction is now seen for the subjective
outbursts that they were.

This isn't a case of the aliens forcing people to feel certain
emotions, they ARE given the choice of wether or not to let the aliens
help them.  In learning to trust the detatchment which the engulfing
eyes give, you learn about trust in the other aspects of the eyes as
well as in the entities themselves.  You are also being conditioned
into learning that most of the struggles present in the perceivable
reality, the objective intrusions, only become struggles through fear,
denial, hate, anger, and all other possible `bad' things you
personally are bringing into the subjectivity of the experience.
Having perhaps gotten a taster of the black enveloping early on, and
having been teased with its possibility as time progresses, you
finally develop your once irrational view into a more sensible one,
where the pain doesn't /have/ to be felt, it is only felt because you
won't accept the truth of the matter and learn.

Many critics are frequently saying that the abductions are incredibly
evil situations where people are raped and so on, yet it's not quite
the case once an abductee learns the lesson at hand and realises that
once their view of reality is much clearer and controlled, all those
horrible things which once hurt your body and mind are now taken with
a pinch of salt and an encapsulating experience within the peace of
the eyes.  There is also, remember, the continued statements of "let
me help you" from the aliens towards the abductee, as they offer to
help relieve the trauma.  This in itself is forming an association
between the alien and help, and before long you're going to begin to
apply this association as you drop down your barriers and allow the
help to be given.

One wonders, though, how exactly are you supposed to go `into' the
eyes, which are supposedly solid parts of a solid alien, and enter
into a blackness, into a view of the universe unbridled by fear and
pain?  Surely such a thing must be a phenomenon of the mind, where
your mind and the mind of the alien intertwine and become as one.
When doing this, the abductee becomes detatched from the perceived
harshness of the experience and all pain and anguish are temporarily
removed, as if the love of the entity is forming a protective shield
around their perceiving mind.  This experience is something symbolic
of what happens at the death of `self', and what is seen to be the
ultimate unexperiencable voidal bliss which each of us heads for.  So
this experience not only promotes trust, control, rationality, and the
formation of a loving situation, but it also gives us symbols of the
harshness of life and the evolution of attitude which must be taken in
order to allow a meeting, confrontation, interaction, merging, and
helping hand from beyond our trivial physical lives.

This is also a way of demonstrating that we have a lot of evolving to
do before we can comprehend these entities under sensible terms. We
may think we are ready for an alien landing, but we're so full of
illusionary self-judged accomplishments so can't really even hope to
be treated with much respect. It is not so much a case of us humans
being visited by aliens, instead it is intended as a mutual meeting
halfway, under conditions where the aliens are seen for their /real/
appearance, beyond the destructive first-opinions and beyond the
insanity which most of us bring to such a situation. Is it any real
wonder that aliens don't want to come down here until we raise our
consciousness to something more sensible and controlled? They are
basically trying to bring us up closer to a level of reality-
comprehension from which we can accept them with something other than
a missile, bullet, or karate chop to the arm. It also seems potent
that in our current state, we would not be seeing aliens as they
really are, but would be seeing what WE wanted to see in them, and
what OUR minds allowed us to see. So if an alien civilisation is to
come here and make itself known, then it certainly wants to be known
for what it is, and not for a further invention of the mind.
Interaction with such entities is beyond us unless we can raise our
comprehension to a much more sensible and `mature' mental level in
which our subjective perceptions won't cloud the truth of these
entities. It might even be true that these entities DID come here once
in a craft, and were shot down, and so don't want the same mistake
again.

In continuing with the examination of the alien physique, we come onto
the less prominent facial features.  They have (sometimes) a small
nose.  This doesn't really seem to jump out and teach us anything,
except that maybe the physical senses work much less potently in their
realm of existence. If this is indeed what it means, perhaps as a part
of their evolution, then one should remember that senses such as smell
and taste are predominantly the result of chemical-reaction based
experience, and if you were to dwell in a place which is non-physical,
such as the alternative reality of the abductions, perhaps on a higher
plane, then it is also likely that your ability to experience physical
sensations (such as smell) would diminish, if not be removed almost
completely. These entities seem to have no important utilities with
which to obtain information from reality, other than the eyes and the
mind, which either shows heightened evolution, or some other
explanation which is only within the realms of assumption. But it also
seems to demonstrate to us that we are very much caught up in the
novelty which our external senses bring to us, and perhaps the
subliminal sight of an entity with diminished physical perceptive
tools (other than the eyes) is going to also condition us into a
persuasion away from our love of supplying such senses with continued,
but short lived, greedy pleasures.

So in having very small noses, and remembering that the /only/ reports
of greys with big noses come from the conspiracy theorists such as
Bill Cooper, it would seem that the aliens not only exist in a place
where sensations of taste and smell are un-needed, but also a place
where they are actually perhaps not possible.  Also, their lack of
taste and smell seems to tie in with a lack of use of the nose and
mouth for breathing purposes.  In fact, I don't think any abductee has
actually pointed out anything about aliens breathing, seeing the chest
expand, or anything even remotely related.  Their noses are small and
often don't even seem to have nostrils, so a warming of the breath
typical of humans would seem unlikely. And then one moves onto the
mouth and finds similar attributes.

The mouth is small, thin, and almost always void of change in
expression. It seems void of teeth, and too small to allow any large
volume of air to be sucked in.  Indeed, many have reported that the
mouth is often closed or that it seems covered by some kind of
membrane.  So, these aliens who seem not to have breathing facilities,
are somehow physical in body?  They come here and appear to operate in
objective and subjective realities (if there is a distinction between
them) and yet their mouth is closed or barely open and their noses are
very small or void of nostrils?  This doesn't exactly enthuse as to
these entities even /needing/ to breathe some kind of air. Still, the
human abductee finds that they are able to breathe while in the
abduction.  Does this mean that air is present, or can we draw
parellels to what astral travellers tell us about being able to breath
/anywhere/ while in a higher plane of reality?  If so, then does this
still allow a solid human being to be taken from the physical reality
into one where such a situation allows breathing to take place yet
also seems to go against it?

Astral travellers have often told stories of being able to dive
underwater and still breath.  In fact, there is one case in
`Abduction', by John Mack, where one abductee becomes immersed in a
tank of fluid, along with a hybrid child, totally under the surface,
and yet they can breathe easily, and the fluid didn't go into their
nose or mouth.  Is this perhaps depictive of the situation in which
these abductions happen - ie in a higher plane, and could it be
significant in saying that these entities, although real, do not exist
within the physical plane we normall dwell within? Then how might a
whole human body be taken from the physical reality, in which the
absence can be recognised by others, into a place where they and the
aliens breathe, yet also a place where the aliens seem to posess a
`light body'?

Then we move onto the head itself. It is large, and seems far too big
to be supported by the thin neck. Yet, if these beings are highly
developed then perhaps, if they have a light body, ie literally made
of `light', then perhaps this awards them anti-gravitational
properties which lessens their weight? It is certainly true that the
mind can remove weight from objects and levitate them, so how about an
evolved alien mind influencing its whole body to become lighter? And
what significance does the alien head have? Is it simply a way to
depict what we'd normally consider `intelligence', ie the typical
1960/70's horror movie with aliens having huge lumpy brains?

Anyway, these lesser facial attributes seem less important for
learning purposes than the eyes. So, moving onto the rest of the body,
we find a slim torso, much slimmer than that depicted in the alien
autopsy footage, which is usually said to be void of obvious ribs or
other bones. Then we have the arms and legs which are also very slim.
If you remember in the film `Communion', the greys were depicted as
having bendy arms which appeared to lack joints. I don't know if this
is significant, but the bones within the body (if there are any) are
not at all obvious from the outside, again much to the contrary of the
autopsy footage.

Might a frail body with all the `power' and intelligence within the
head area be instrumental in teaching us that, although these entities
are weak, they are perhaps more surprisingly resiliant? It is said
that the taller greys can use a very firm pressure if they really want
to, almost like a force holding you down, yet this seems to imply some
kind of mental ability rather than the result of strong musculature.
It is also known clearly that many abductees find continual urges to
reach out a hand and swat one of the little geezers like a fly, for
indeed they look pretty thin and weak. Might this teach us that power
struggles come about when failing to cooperate? These entities, and
abductions as a whole, continue to seem symbolic of `nature', as if to
demonstrate the ways in which the planet can operate in harmony with
humans, and that the humans need to learn various things on order to
allow this to happen.

Certainly, these entities are physically weak, in appearance at least,
yet should we try to take advantage of this and impose the needs for a
conflict where restraint becomes more potent, or should we instead
work WITH `nature' to save energy, and to create a more harmonious
situation where violence isn't needed and our arrogance doesn't
surface? Again it seems that even the very subtlest of mannerisms and
activies which these entities employ hold some kind of lesson to be
learned, some kind of subliminal persuasion which guides our viewpoint
into one much more beneficial not only for the self but for all
parties involved, working as a team instead of as enemies. Their form,
their activities, and the way they work all appear to be such an
accurate embodiment of what will achieve results the quickest that it
almost teases us with the idea that such impressions are just a
`front' for some group of entities who perhaps have no physical form
at all, perhaps spirits or other discarnate minds. Indeed, is it
really natural that these entities have the appearance, lifestyle,
manner, and performance which seems perfect as an educational tool for
the state of existence which humanity is currently in, or could these
things be just a face-mask for what is really performing these
encounters?

As we now move on into further details of the abduction events
themselves, we find a selection of interesting experiences which
manifest practically all elements of our existence which are polluted
or irrationally/illogically handled. To start with, we have the
staring. The alien just stands there, either at a distance or up close
(usually up-close means a mind-link is formed), and looks. He/she just
watches. What are they watching for? Appearing to be of such
immaculate evolution into the realms of logical reasoning, the aliens
would first find our powerful emotional basis to be of extreme
interest. It might not pose interest on the grounds of novelty or awe,
but instead might be just another way in which they are trying to
obtain some feedback on which to asses the current state of evolution,
or to even give us further learning, because our state of ego/emotions
depicts our spiritual growth and viewpoint.

It is certainly true that many of us have been to a zoo and gorped at
animals in cages, or in some kind of enclosure, and been mystified by
their grace, beauty, attitude, intellect, social structure, defense
mechanisms, and a whole host of other things which are also important
elements of the human being. So might this be a way to show us just
what it really feels like to be watched all the time and taken to be
pets who must obey and work to please our owners? Certainly, most
abductees feel owned by these entities because there seems no escape
from them, they all feel greatly intimidated and fearful of the
staring eyes, and the restraints we place upon nature in trying to
satisfy our needs seems to come through when these entities use their
staring eyes to invoke paralysis, control, and other mind games. How
does the human being like to be the lab rat now that the shoe is on
the other foot?

There is almost always staring going on. Some suggest that the staring
induces paralysis, although paralysis is usually an intrinsic element
of the situation within reality and the alertness of their
consciousness, which remains dominant throughout the experience wether
the black eyes are trained upon them or not. It certainly seems to
come forth that the staring isn't just the performance of a bunch of
emotion-sick puppies who delight in seeing us squirm and anguish, and
who also delight in observing our every move. Judging by the
`necessity' of all the other things which go on in the abductions, it
would also seem necessary for these entities to view us so closely all
the time. The thing which makes it appear worse is the size and depth
of the black/darkblue eyes, unblinking and unpausing in its analysis.
Is this too a lesson to break down our barriers of the ego? Does it
indeed teach us into an attitude where we no longer are really
bothered by the petty squabbles which ensue from consciousness of your
image, or what other people think of you? It seems to.

To begin with, abductees experience a tremendous fear of the eyes, as
described before, so it seems that not only do they condition us into
getting over our fears, but also a part of that process is done
through the staring, which not only allows us to remove our ego-based
barriers but also is a further element in learning the true nature of
reality and accepting it for what it is, because we are certainly
unable to change and control it while in these abductions, which too
is teaching us acceptance and a less judgemental attitude. And
perhaps, even if we don't realise it, experiencing these things
subliminally sorts us out right down to our depths of mind, because
the intensity is so strong, which is probably necessary to get any
level of success in a short period of time, so as to allow more time
afterwards for the application of this newly formed `tool of peace'
which the abductee seems destined to become.

So, in continuing an investigation into abductions, one finds that
every element of their character seems, so far, to not just be there
for the sake of it, or indeed as just the way they act, but instead
seems to be a cerfully `planned' schedule of non-stop learning
experiences to condition the mind into what you could class a
`spiritual awakening'.  Associations are first made with the elements
of the self to be remedied, such as sexual defences, ego-based
problems, and this is done by the abductee's initial state of mind as
well as through the things which are endured.

Then gradually the abductions change.  It is well known that they
follow a pattern, in the same order pretty much every time.  Whereas
sperm and ova are taken in the initial stages of the sequence, things
later progress into feotus-showing.  Later still the feotus are now
children, and hybrids might become involved in staging.  And further
still there is information given which the abductee is now conditioned
enough to pay /proper/ attention to. Is this sequence of events in
place to demonstrate what is physically happening to the hybrids, or
is such a situation being used as a perfect way to blow aside our
terribly wrong attidues towards sex, self-image, and life?  As the
physical appearance and personality of the greys is a constant
sibliminal course in consciousness evolution, might too the rest of
the abduction be yet more of the same, perhaps a course behind which
is some kind of `real' hybridization program, and what is the
significance of the hybridization?

Let's now start at the beginning of a typical abduction and take a
look at what sort of alien-persuasion comes into play. Even before the
abduction actually takes place, there are `known' symptoms present in
the perceptions of the abductee. Amongst these are headache,
toothache, drowsiness, sweating, uneasiness, lack of concentration,
and a general feeling that something serious is about to happen. In my
personal experiences I have experienced profuse instant sweating for
no apparent reason whatsoever, accompanied by headache, and toothache
earlier in the day. For some, these symptoms are experienced anything
up to several weeks before an event, but more commonly within a few
days or just a couple of weeks, that is if there isn't already a
perpetual feal in place which spans their whole waking and sleeping
life.

How could a person experience things like this way before having even
any idea that they are about to be abducted? When it happened to me I
didn't have any thought in my mind about being abducted, and I didn't
come down with any illnesses or anything, but suddenly there I was
sweating and aching and I couldn't work out why. At the time I wasn't
too troubled by it because I hadn't made any associations with
abduction yet. So, how does one experience these things prior to an
encounter without even really knowing that it's happening? It
certainly seems to be something to do with the mind. Wether this falls
into the category of the `subconscious' or into psychic perceptions,
it still is basically a mind thing. Many women get a `hunch' that it
is about to happen, yet men, who don't have as much natural intuition,
can also get `hunches' about these things.

Does this give us valuable information as to the mind-based situation
of abductions? If a person had been abducted before, then the event
would have deeply embedded itself into the mind of the perceiver, and
this would most probably be in vivid detail, just like most memories
are in nightmarish situations. So, having been there already, could
there be some really subtle change in the atmosphere or in the mind
just prior to the event, which the mind /knows/ means trouble, and so
it reacts to it in whatever way? If a person is to stand with sweat
dripping off their chest when seconds before it was as dry as could be
for a sweaty human, what exactly is this saying about their history?
Would their mind possibly react this way if there wasn't that subtle
`something' which it had picked up on as associating directly to
abductions or something previous experienced as highly traumatic?
People are also known to go to locations and feel very uneasy without
really knowing why, as if the subconscious has a vivid memory of
something that happened there and is reacting to it. I must say, when
it happened to me I thought I was perhaps going to faint or something,
because it came on so suddenly. Yet I didn't really perceive
/anything/ unusual, and remained so for many minutes afterwards.

In fact, it was perhaps a whole two or three minutes after that
happened that I actually perceived the first signs that something
serious was going on. I had sweated a little earlier on while
consuming a bowl of cereal, but I thought it might just be the way I
was sitting. Then later it happens again much moreso, only to be
followed by the impossibility of my bedroom window being closed, the
cat meowwing excitedly at something down there, rapid but light
footsteps up the stairs, and then a very intense `presence' outside
the door. Now if you'd asked me while I was downstairs sweating, I
wouldn't have even considered that it was abduction related, even
though I was in the middle of reading the book `Abduction' at the time
and had just gone down to take a leak. So why does the body react in
these often repeated signs just before such a thing happens? I'm no
psychologist but I feel that such a pre-event situation is brought on
by something in the mind. It is either something psychic, or there is
some very sublte `something' which I am picking up on and reacting too
without remembering why.

So, knowing that there is initially some kind of mind-influence, or
subtle perception, which begins the events, let us now move on into
the model abduction. One of the next signals, besides body signals, is
the detection of something external going on. With me, I first noticed
something very wierd was happening because my bedroom window was now
closed, whereas it was latched open before going downstairs moments
before, and everyone was asleep. This in itself was a pretty wierd
thing to encounter, but still, at that point, I didn't really know
that it was to do with abduction, but it was enough to start me
thinking and it also began the `uneasy' feeling. Next up the cat
suddenly starts to meoww several times in quick succession. You'd be
lucky to get more than two meowws out of her spaced apart at feeding
time, yet alone anywhen else. This shook me because it was almost like
hearing her meoww `at' something down there. Btw, the door is closed
downstairs, and I didn't hear it open.

Next I hear a patter of light footsteps come up the stairs. I had a
slight suspicion that it is the cat having got out, but as I said the
door was certainly closed when I'd been down there just before. These
footsteps also didn't go in the cat 4-legged patter, it was more like
two legs, and very quick. Then it stops, and I get real scared. In
what seemed like 10 minutes I read through an hours worth of book, and
there possibly was missing time because I was too shaken to be paying
proper attention. I was reading the book so casually because I was not
at all focussed on it, so I really cannot tell how much time passed or
wether there was a break. But still, there was this `thing' outside
the door, waiting, just doing nothing, watching. I couldn't see what
it was because the door was closed, but it sure `felt' the same as the
other presences I've felt. Soon after I went to sleep, and woke to
find the setting on my hi-fi all screwed up.

In this particular case, why, if aliens are here to do nasty things to
us and hurt us and rape us, why do they come and seem to do nothing,
just as if to show a sign? I'm forever asking that `they' somehow
confirm their reality, and at first all I got was waking in the night
feeling scared and watched. But this time round we're talking serious
underwear-soiling encounter. I /think/ I was fully conscious
throughout, I even looked at the clock several times when it was
happening. So why would they come and then do nothing? Surely these
brutal beasts would just come and take me no matter what I felt? What
I'm trying to get at here, is that not /all/ of their activities are
geared towards their apparent own goal. Instead, there are a wealth of
situations during the course of encounters in which certain tests are
done. I don't mean medical tests, I mean mental ones. A large number
of abductees have, at some point, been given the opportunity to
overcome fear and cooperate without pressure.

One report which sticks in my mind is that the aliens came for a man,
and did not take him, nor pressure him, nor do anything which seemed
that they had an agenda, and it turned out that they wanted him to use
his willpower to go on his own. To do this he had to walk through his
bedroom wall. This in itself seems to suggest either an alternative
reality on a higher plane, or some kind of advanced technology thing,
or just a mind game. The man tried to go through the wall, eventually,
but couldn't. Finally though, after a few attempts, he manages it and
this has a dramatic effect on all of his future abductions - they
become much more pleasant, and his fear diminishes. In my case, I was
certain that they were coming for me and that they were going to take
me somewhere. I was actually a little excited at one point because I
hoped I'd actually be conscious and able to perceive this happening so
that I can remember it. But they didn't come in, and they didn't force
me out. So, a test of will, which I failed. I was too scared at the
time, but they seemed to want me to go TO them rather than them coming
to me.

This activity of going TO the aliens is yet another element of the
mutual meeting which humanity is to have with them. They do not want
us to judge them on our current level, so instead they teach and raise
our level so that we can observe and work with them in cooperation. In
my case, I was supposed to go with them, but there was just too much
fear at the time, it is really overpowering. I know they'll be back
somewhen, maybe soon, because I told them with my mind (which I'm
pretty sure they are reading while the presence (telepathy) is being
felt) over and over that I wasn't ready yet, and that I would try next
time. So, why do these horrendous gargoiles who rape humanity and
torture us show such compassion, and continually demonstrate in wealth
that this all seems to be very much for /our/ benefit?

Tests of will usually come later in abductions, although they can
start much earlier is the abductee is less fearful. Being less fearful
represents a similar level that a hardened abductee would be at after
a certain amount of time. So, what we are also seeing is a great
amount of adaptability to the individual. It is not simply a case of
compulsory education, but also catering for the needs of the
individual and what things are necessary. Not everyone experiences
every aspect of abductions, and many bring immensely individual detail
to their experiences which many others may not have experiences, or at
least not /exactly/ the same. Why would these evil villians be not
only compassionate to our fears, but also educate us continually, AND
show us personal interest? If they were coming here just to abuse
humanity, surely there would be very little, if any, interest in the
individual human?

If a radically evil race of aliens are to come here, with intent on
rape, torture, mind control, and `forced' parenting, what sort of
maddened psychosis is coming through from their perpetual education,
training, teaching about peace, offers to eliviate pain, offers to
come unrestrained, and general focussed yet compassionate nature?
Imagine yourself as an alien race.  You come to a planet of humans of
whom you have intimate knowledge, able to undress and redress humans
who wear a variety of personal clothing styles, and cunning enough to
leave clues and signs, and you come intent on total control,
domination, and a fairly obvious long-lasting history.  Yet on your
mission of torturous terror, you show not a single ounce of cruelty,
nothing in the realms of malice, you comfort and help your clients,
you demonstrate sympathy for them, and yet you still have to be a
morauding rampant sex beast pervert?  It doesn't quite fit somehow.

So these aliens rape us, yet they carefully undress us, carefully
examine our bodies and check us over, paying special attention to
lesions, cuts, bruises, and anything out of the ordinary, becoming
particularly worried when even the slightest unexplained thing is
encountered, such as braces, and are generally working for our overall
wellbeing?  Which is the odd one out here?  Once into the abduction
proper, having defied gravity and reality in getting into the `craft',
the initial stages occur.  The abductee is carefully undressed.  The
abductee is able, usually, to get mad at the aliens should they get
their hands all over the place, and the little guys tend to keep away
from a maddened human.  This isn't really ringing bells of a blood-
thirsty death-dealing race.  Then, when undressed, the abductee is
taken to the designated area on the ship, which depends upon their
current evolution.

Normally, things start with a physical exam.  They examine the spine,
counting each and every vertibrae and carefully `feeling' each one.
They roll the head carefully from side to side, watching intently.
They raise and lower the arms, all the time focussed on the joints,
checking and examining.  Then they pay attention to the neck, perhaps
tilting the head back, and move on down to the legs.  They count
fingers and toes, they check each one carefully in case there are any
problems, or indeed in case there are any missing.  And how would they
know if any are missing or have `changed' since last time, unless
there WAS a `last time'?  They check the legs, they bend the knees,
they move the feet, they manipulate the hips, and then they also check
the torso.  Examining ribs and bones, they continue to `fondle' the
abductee with extreme concern, yet calmly and carefully. And just
wonder for a moment, if they were only intent on rape, why do it to
the same person over and over again throughout their life, as if they
have the interest of the individual at heart?

In this kind of medical exam, do these entities really sound like the
sort that is intent on rape and pillage?  No, they are most definately
concerned about every part of our body.  They pay attention to the
sexual organs particularly because it is important for the hybrid
program, not to fondle with manhood or womanhood to satisfy sexual
needs.  So there you have the first stage, the examination.  What is
this teaching us, if anything? Well, to start with they are extremely
concerned about ALL parts of our body.  If they find something
unusual, such as a cut, or braces, or an ankle bracelet, something
like that, they become extremely interested. They either gather a
group of others and confer, or they actually ask the abductee what
this thing is.  Again, this sounds more like a medical situation than
a sexual one.

The medical exam also shows that they seem more concerned about our
bodies than we are.  One woman was bolemic, and when an abduction
arised the aliens were particularly worried about her, asking all
sorts of questions. If I remember rightly, it went something like:
"What have you done to yourself?" - "I want to be like this".  "But
you are damaging yourself" -"What would you care".  "Why are you doing
this?" - "Because I want to be thin".  Then the alien looks at the
woman as if worried and dissapointed, and then tells her "you must eat
more often or you will become ill".  A rampant sex-beast alien from
hell doesn't exactly spring to mind when they show so much innocent
concern as to our welfare.  Or are they just wanting to fatten us up
for the slaughter?  I don't think so, overweight abductees also report
similar conversations.  If there is anything to learn from the medical
exam, then it is usually done through conversation rather than
appearances.

Moving on, there comes particular interest in the genetalia and
reproductive systems.  This is where the ego starts to do its thing.
I don't really know of any abductee who actually was happy with the
examination of their genetals, penis, vagina, anus, and ovaries.  Yet,
being sensible, there isn't really much wrong.  People find great
discomfort in how `cold' and unsexy these entities can be.  They do
these inspections, and they need to do them, yet they are so UN-sexual
about it that this can be even more disturbing to the abductee than if
it were perhaps a bit more romantic or sexy.  Again, this doesn't
really indicate that the aliens are into `rape'.  Still, the ego
resides and the abductee experiences all sorts of difficulties coming
to terms with what is going on.  What does this surface examination
condition into us?

To start with, it makes us realise about sex.  It breaks down our
defences, because we are usually paralised, and it shows us again a
situation where it is unpleasant because it doesn't go along with what
the abductee would expect.  They expect things to be sexy and
passionate when utilising their genetalia, yet in this case the
entities are so `cold' about it that this really attacks the abductee.
Through prolonged examinations over many years, it would serve to
condition the abductee away from `wrongful sex' and into returning to
the sensible reproductive-intent of the sexual organs.  It also starts
off by associating the situation with what the abductee would normally
consider `okay circumstances' for this sexual activity to be taking
place, and in doing so it is building up a raising to the surface of
what exactly we feel with regards sex and our `sex life'.

We're shown that these cold, medical `intrusions' aren't really all
that awful, yet we experience them so much worse because they clash
directly with the wrong values we place upon sex and how we implement
loveless sex-lives.  Over time, as things proceed on into the more
prominent parts of hybridization, this situation is intensified.  Now
comes the hard bit, the bit which really digs deep into the emotions
of the abductee, and also into the emotions of those who cannot really
know what such an experience is like.  In fact, you will often find
that the abductee does not consider it to be `rape', because they
recognise the lack of intense force, malice, cruelty, aggression, and
other subtleties which would contribute to a rape situation.  Sure,
they notice the intrusive nature of the activities, but you'd probably
be surprised by how few fail to make a distinction between rape and
`sex-with-a-purpose'.

So, we're onto the sex act now.  This can comprise firstly a rectal
exam. This is uncomfortable, both physically and emotionally.  Again,
this causes us to start off by associating with what exactly it is
that we're uncomfortable about, and this raises those particular
emotions to the surface.  They come out and the become part of the
experience, and with time they get moulded just like everything else
as the life-long situation continues.  The anal exam is basically
medical.  It is not homosexual sex in any way at all, no matter wether
the operation is performed by a male or female alien.  In fact, some
men who are uncomfortable get `given' the association with a female
who can be more compassionate and comforting. The same goes for women,
if the sex of the alien bothers them too much, they are often
presented with the alternative.  In most cases though, you get the
same sex entity as you do to start with, which is more often than not
a male.

So, they put something up your anus, and its pretty large, and it
might hurt.  Not everyone sais that it hurts, but most do.  So, here
we have physical pain.  It is bearable, but there nonetheless.  The
really hard thing to cope with isn't that this medical thing is going
on, but that it is doing something which seriously compromises our
personal sexual belief system.  Most men are conditioned that anal sex
if disgusting and horrible, and most women are also.  So when this
happens, they find themselves battling not necessarily what the aliens
are objectively doing, but what we are subjectively battling in our
minds.  This, like many other aspects of abductions, is the way in
which such serious areas are brought to the surface to make us cope
with them, and over time evolve them into a more sensible, rational,
and non image-upholding social view.  The anal exam itself isn't all
that bad if you think about it, if you had to have it done for some
medical reason in a normal hospital.  It is the case of it happening
here, being done by `aliens' who have an eerily strong intellect,
being done with alien instruments, and being practically unable to
resist should you want to.  There is just a total stripping of
`confort factors'.

It is certainly true that we are almost all dwelling in a luvvy-duvvy
reality where materialism is high on the list, followed by various
other comforts such as pets, posessions, food, property, and social
status.  All of these things are compromised within the medical
procedures of abductions.  So, again, this is conditioning us.  It
starts by associations with all these things we don't like.  It brings
forth our views on how `awful' such a thing is.  It really opens our
own eyes to /exactly/ what our opinion is of the situation.  This
becomes deeply embedded within us as things progress.  Later in
abductions, abductees start to change their view dramatically into one
where medical exams aren't so bad, they have to be sort of `endured',
but they no longer warrant hysteria, fear, pain, or emotional attack.
In fact, some abductees who have come to terms with what happens
through numerous regressions will start to view these procedures as
simply `necessary', eg "They're only doing their job, it's not too
bad".

Again we are finding more and more conditioning using exactly the same
method.  They bring /really/ important hard-to-handle situations to
the fore, so that we associate with what comprises them, what we're
personally bringing to the situation, and how we're using our less-
than-rational beliefs in a less-than-rationalisable situation.  As
things move on, as more and more encounters happen, the individual
starts to get used to the situation, the mental novelty wears off and
what once attacked them so sharply is now "just another part of it
that is necessary to keep a check on us".  Could it be that ALL of the
abduction is actually based on the same sort of model - surface and
then sink?

As we move on into more serious areas of the sexual circumstances,
things get much more hard to cope with as reproductive activities
ensue.  Not everyone experiences the reproduction in the same ways.
There is a variety of different methods, and any one person could
experience a selection of those.  Is this personalisation in action?
It would seem that if they had a tried and tested method, they
wouldn't need to chop and change, and this too leads to recognition of
some level of content which the abductee themselves brings into the
requirements of their encounters.  If you were setting out to create
hybrid entities, using human sperm and ova, and if you were doing so
on a less-than-personal-interest basis, surely you'd have a single
method by which it is done.  But no, we have many.

For the man, the usual method of sperm extraction is through penile
stimulation.  Some kind of apparatus is placed over the organs and
proceeds to stimulate it into releasing sperm.  However, it also
occurs that such a machine might cause ejaculate to exteriorise
without any real passage of time, and without need to stimulate or to
induce an orgasm.  They simply draw the sperm straight out.  Another
method is to place some kind of apparatus onto the genetals and
`medically' extract the sperm that way. But generally, this is how
things are done for a `cooperating' abductee. However, should the
abductee be in need of breaking down more serious sexual barriers, as
if the sperm extraction were not enough, they are made to endure a
more physical form of extraction, or impregnation.  This is where the
`rape' viewpoint comes into it.

This circumstance usually happens in a selection of ways.  The male
may be required to clamber on top of a female human, and copulate.  I
have a personal memory of having to do this, recalled in a dream.
Another method is that a `dosile' human woman clambers onto the male
and is made to copulate.  Also, I should point out that the persons
involved aren't always `made' to copulate.  If they are cooperative
enough there is no real force required.  In my dream I was `asked' to
copulate with a woman who was laying on some kind of bench, and I
asked why, and was told "you chose it". Then I see myself `doing it'
shortly before the dream terminates, as if having been reluctant yet
cooperative.  In other cases, abductees experience horrendous ordeals
of being forced, actually being physically moved into place, being
manually led to perform the act, and even to find that the entity
being copulated with is actually an alien, much to their horror.

What seems odd though is that, although a privatised education seems
to be in place dependant on the `needed barrier-breaking' of the
individual, there can be these grey entities with reproductive organs.
It is well known that your average `grey' has no such organs.  So
instead of the abductee starting out by copulating with a human and
then finding reality slipping into copulation with an alien, might it
be more accurate to say that they are copulating with a real human and
/then/ the reality is `manufactured' that it is an alien?  How can you
tell?  As so much of the abduction phenomenon is geared towards
learning through experience, how can you really tell which aspects of
the experience are `objectively real' and which are `invented
reality'?  Just because it is more traumatic to be copulating with an
alien, does this mean that the previously perceived copulation with a
human isn't the `norm'?  As we are conditioned into the situation
where it is the aliens doing everything, what possible lesson could we
be being taught by mixing our reality and preying on our subjective
conclusions?

Could it be simply a case where, like the rest of the subliminal
conditioning, the abductee simply has to experience something to
learn, and so the `harshness' of an experience will depend on the
person and how much they've got to learn in order to get over things?
Most abductees become `spiritually enlightened', or at least set on a
much more `correct' path in life, yet why does it take some longer
than others?  Why is it that once you learn the lesson it seems to
stop being given?  Could the gradual progression of the hybrid program
be the migration from one area of teaching to another, like passing a
certain level, because certainly information-giving usually comes much
later in the day when the abductee has now built up to it?  What if
they really take sperm and ova and produce entities, but that the link
between these entities and a biological foundation is only /assumed/
to be their origin?

Also, why the aliens with reproductive organs?  Is this simply a
manipulation of reality, or do such entities really exist?  For most
situations, the greys do not show any sign at all of such organs, yet
some seem to have them, and some abductees even go into vivid detail
in describing what such an event is like.  Could they implement sexual
organs, and birthing organs, into one of their kind to facilitate the
sexual act? Surely, seeing as gestation usually occurs inside the
HUMAN sex-partner, what would the significance be in copulating with a
female grey who has sexual organs, but seemingly a frail and fragile
body unable to really support the birth process?  Could it maybe be a
symbol of what is going on here?  Might it show a link to what's going
on big-time, ie a breaking down of barriers between alien and human to
establish an in-between situation based on love and cooperation
(hybrid) rather than fear/aggression and nuicance?

It still remains steadfast that a man copulating with a female alien
is going to really shit you up into a hysteria, but when you get past
all the lessons yet to be learnt by the abductee, does it really seem
so incredibly awful that a human joins forces with another species to
create a wonderful creation symbolising a merger of species, an
interaction of intelligent life?  Surely the significance of entity-
entity copulation in some cases, and entity-medicalinstrument
copulation in other cases has a lot to do with the individual, how
strong their ego is, and just what intensity of experience is
necessary to blow the problems away.

Then again, it would seem also true that the female and male aliens do
exist, in part, with sexual organs.  Some abductees, perhaps including
myself, reach a point nearer to the end of their evolution - when they
are past the initial fear and ego, where they are shown information
with regards to what is happening, they are given the _choice_ wether
they would like to play a much more serious role in the relationship,
that is to wantantly copulate, on non-sexual grounds, on grounds
within the loving creation of life, and copulate with a female alien
on a regular basis to create hybrid childred.  Surely it would be
inpracticle to `bond' with such an entity if they were human, because
getting the two together at a time would be a struggle.

So, it seems that these aliens DO exist with genetalia, not only
females but also males, and are able to produce or at least sustain
fertilized eggs to a point far enough as to generate children.  It
would then seem interesting to notice that here we have a species of
entity whom appear in non-sexual and sexual forms, as if tailor-made
for the occasion.  And what possible `learning experience' would come
from a willing participation in something?  It sounds more like
confirmation that the hybridization is a real thing, and not just
symbolic, because once you get to the stage where you are given such a
choice as that, you have already evolved enough to have little left to
learn.  And what possible experience would come from interaction with
a single entity time and time again towards the same cause?  It
doesn't really fit into the chaotic personalised treatment of the rest
of the abduction, so seems to show a serious mode to the events.

Abductees are shown vistas and new lands, as if to say that this is
where the hybrid children will live, implanted onto a terraformed
planet.  I was in the bath earlier, and I was thinking about the
processes involved in finding someone who you can `love', and it
occured that a match is made entirely on subjective grounds, what is
compatible in order to make a chemistry flow.  Then I thought,
wouldn't it surely be possible to /objectively/ love /anyone/ in the
world and genuinly have a good relationship with them, so long as
everyone was equal in the areas necessary to not let ego and personal
composition hinder?  Perhaps these alien encounters are also breaking
down these barriers, to show us that everyone can love everyone else.
Abductees are `made' to copulate not only with a variety of other
humans, even if they are also experiencing the sperm extraction
technique too, but they also get to copulate with aliens now and then,
or eventually.  This seems to condition our views on what is the
correct and peaceful viewpoint to take with regards not only human-to-
human relations, but also human-to-alien relations which might be
possible in the future, if not seen as happening already.

In the case of the woman copulating, it is the same basic procedure as
the males.  Either you interact with an entity, a human man, or you
have your eggs medically extracted.  The egg extraction is less common
because the women are usually used as incubators for the feotus, yet
it is certainly true that eggs are usually taken, either before
copulation or after, and are returned later, something seeming to have
been done to alter them (which is of course an assumption).  If
copulation occurs with a male alien, which is fairly common, wether or
not the alien is disguised as human, then removal of eggs need not be
necessary, for they will already contain the alien genes.  Does this
then mean that not only do they have the capability to alter the
eggs/sperm genetically, but also that their sexual impregnation is all
that is required to allow a seamless mixing between human and alien
makeup?  This would seem to indicate that the reproductive nature of
some aliens is a genetic (or similarly related method appropriate to
the location within reality) creation so perfect as to allow the alien
sperm and human egg, or human sperm and alien egg, to merge easily and
perfectly with no sign of rejection whatsoever, a truly incredible
cross-species feat of medical technology.

However, could we be seeing a genetic situation, or perhaps an etheric
one? Could the actual physical situations present appear physical
because they are based on ethereal reality, the etheric plane and
body?  In such a case, you could account for the variety of
personally-moulded experiences of seemingly `objective' reality, and
possibly say that abductees and aliens aren't necessarily creating
solid bodies, but are in fact possibly creating etheric/astral bodies
for some future civilisation deemed to be manufactured or transformed.
Could this be perhaps reflective of suggestions about how humankind
was first manufactured - aliens coming in and changing us in some way?

Would the necessary changes from primal man be genetic, ie in the
body, or mental, as in the astral/etheric makeup?  It is certainly
true that the mind and all higher bodies go to directly influence the
appearance and health of the physical body, so perhaps in creating a
dramatically different `mould' in a higher plane, this would
facilitate a persuasion of the physical body to take a more rapid
evolution towards the etheric form? And would the phrase "we are
recycling souls" be less to do with enslavement into a false light,
but instead related to the manufacture of new souls, new higher forms
which can at some time incarnate into the human existence, aiding its
evolution, or set up a completely new civilisation by helping to mould
a `tired' race of beings elsewhere?  Is a `recycled soul' one which is
trapped into a false light, or is it a recycling of the energy of old
souls to produce new ones?  After all, recycling usually turns
something old into something new.

How would this account for physical `evidence'?  How might this allow
women to be proven `pregnant' if the body being manipulated isn't in
fact the physical one?  Could the mind-body link cause the body to
manifest the image of the etheric like it normally does, to such an
extent that a woman can be considered pregnant, scars can become
evident, and the absence and relocation of the physical body can be
witnessed?  It seems to be /something/ to do with it, yet it cannot
only be it, because certainly these things happen to physical bodies,
to physical people, and have physical effects.  And hopefully reality
would be kind enough not to create the almost impossibly determined
situation of mass reality-moulding, through which the physical
phenomenon can be formed as illusions?  I hope not, and I don't think
it likely.

So why are these things physical, what purpose does a hybrid race
have, and yet why it is so very full of subjective and often etheric
experiences? Abductees are known to go missing in physical terms, to
be relocated once they come back, and to experience missing time.  All
these things are physical and require the removal and interaction with
the physical body. So how exactly are they able to mould reality into
pretty much anything they choose, implement higher states of
consciousness, and yet do all this in a physical-enough reality to be
generating real solid `aliens' from a hybrid program between physical
aliens and physical humans?  Although the ethereal situation sounds
slightly possible, it just wont account for the physicalities of the
experience, and it still leaves us wondering how the abductee can
experience `staging' on-board `ship'. And when asked "do you sleep?"
they reply "we are always sleeping", which seems to suggest that these
entities either do not sleep, do not die, or have some kind of `light
body' which doesn't require sleep any more.

I had a dream, which I feel is to do with staging.  There is a man
sitting to my left, a human with dark hair, handsome and pleasant, who
is just sitting there looking away.  I am also there, but I am not
sitting, I am laying on something with my legs parted and bent at the
knee.  We are both watching something which appears in the middle of
nowhere.  It is a group of children about 10-14 years old.  They're
sitting on the floor, even though I can see no floor, and they have a
radio.  They're listening to music, and its `dance' style music.  It
sounds pretty original, and would easily fit into the music charts
today, yet I don't think I've heard it anywhere before.  I'm watching
this, and then I'm thinking something, just general thoughts and
observations about what I'm seeing.  At that point, the man comes over
to where I am.  I don't perceive him moving to me, he's just suddenly
there.  He's down on my left side somewhere.  It's wierd, because he
is bending over a bit to look at me, and yet his head is pretty much
the height of my body, like I'm `on' some kind of platform.  I ask him
"do you really like this music?" and he doesn't reply, he just keeps
looking at me.  Then I'm getting the impression that this is not a
real man, he's acting very `alien', just static and watching all the
time doing nothing much.  I ask again "Do you like classical music?"
and he replies "I like good music".

Then he moves down to look between my legs and I get a feeling in my
mind of the words "I'm going to do something down here", but its not
actually words, its unexplainable.  Then I realise he's going to do
something with regards my sexual apparatus, and I get the feeling "Are
you supposed to be doing that?".  Then I'm in a large room, like some
kind of really posh mansion or something, high ceiling.  There's me
and a couple of others, and this tall guy who is really powerful and
we're supposed to be pleasing him at any opportunity.  He goes around
the room and chucks out anything which is un-needed.  Then we're
supposed to go tidy our bedrooms.  I go do mine and I'm having real
problems because my furry mattress (!) is ripped and I'm sure I'll get
told off for it.  Then the geezer comes in and inspects things, and he
nocks over a stack of CD's which I believe are mine, and I say
"careful", and he just smiles and picks then up and puts them back in
palce.  Then he sais "Good work" and walks out the door, and I know
he's coming back.  My impression was that he was not in the scene as a
real participant, but was just sort of there going along with things.
I'm not entirely sure if the second part of this dream is alien-
related, but I think so judging by the continued intensity I'm getting
from the bloke as was present at the start.

What sort of purpose can this possibly have?  Why would I be made to
listen to music and see kids sitting pretty much in the middle of
nowhere?  What exactly is the point?  It's fairly obvious to me that
the human was in fact an alien, but what real significance is there in
the staging?  Does it simply build a link between abductor and
abductee, a sort of way to `get to know' each other on more familiar
grounds?  Also, in this case the alien remained in the form of a
human, and looked totally human except for the obviously alien manner.
Presuming that holograms couldn't be this sophisticated, how are they
then able to `mould reality' to produce these things?  Or is it all in
the mind of the perceiver?  And if so, does that give more weight to
these things being subjective?  If they are subjective, then why the
objectivity of the hybrid program?  It seems that the staging is just
a way for them to see how we react to situations, as well as a tool to
ease our responses to what's going on.

So the aliens present us with a very realistic moulding of our
perceptions, which could either be subjective for the observer, or
could indeed be objective changes in reality.  But how would this be
possible, and where exactly is this performed if it is to involve the
physical body?  Could they perhaps take our physical bodies and
disintegrate them into energy so that they can perform essentially
`solid' medical situations, and then bring us back into normal
physical reality?  Could this be something in the realms of inter-
dimensional manipulation?  Most abductees recognise that the reality
of the abductions is essentially `real', but in a different sort of
reality where practically anything is possible.

It is said by many that the aliens `glow'.  That they are slightly
transparent in some way, and that their bodies, and sometimes their
eyes also, radiate light of a bluish tint, is somewhat depictive of
having a `light body', as if existing in essentially physical reality,
but in a higher plane.  I've also picked up images from messages about
the photon belt that it could place us into a situation where similar
things are possible with regards what happens in abductions.  In
recognising the confused situation between solid reality and mouldable
reality, one would have to conclude that these abductions are inter-
dimensional, or inter-planal, because not only can they take our
physical bodies into these places, but they also bring properties of
higher reality into it.  Could these aliens actually be, in some way,
human?  Would this allow the seemingly seamless copulation between
human and alien, seemingly without any need for genetic interaction?

Another interesting point about the aliens' appearance is that they
all look pretty much identical.  If we were talking about the physical
plane, we could perhaps get into areas of genetics and cloning, yet we
are in somewhat of a mixup because one moment they're physical in our
reality, and the next we're physical in their reality.  To be able to
come into our reality with `solid' craft and `solid' bodies, would
seem to suggest that their bodides must at least function as some kind
of biochemical system, and to be able to take human feotus from the
mother and bring it up in this altered reality seems to suggest that
they are still essentially `real'. If their bodies are solidly real,
then why do they seem to be `light bodies', and why then are they able
to dissolve their bodies into a ball of pure light, which some
abductees have seen happen?  It this one property of the light body?
It is essentially solid, yet you have enourmous control over it by way
of the mind?

In considering their reality to be physical, one wonders why they do
all look the same.  Then again, one draws a parallel, unracial, to why
a community of humans from a far off place all seem to look pretty
much the same?  When looking at the chinese or japanese, they have a
lot of obvious similarities in the way they look, yet there is enough
recognisable `English' in them to make an association with what we
recognise as subtleties.  But would a group of totally alien beings
have these signals? Their bodies are essentially not human, so we
wouldn't really be conditoined into areas of familiarity enough to
recognise individual attributes.  Some greys are slightly taller than
others, which you've got the clear distinction that some are much
taller.

Yet despite any individuality amongst them, it still holds that they
are pretty much identical in form.  They aren't /totally/ identical,
so that would seem to rule out cloning, because even in a dream I had
where I saw several small greys standing outside a craft, some of them
were `grinning', some were looking a little bit nervous, yet they all
seemed to have their own personality, if not coming through in their
minds, then doing so in subtle physical differences which I am not
conditioned enough to recognise.

If you were to ask that their bodies are clones, then you come up
against a series of problems.  Firstly, it has been reported by many
abductees that these entities sometimes tell their age.  Some do so
indirectly by showing the abductee circumstances through many past
lives in which they've been there.  In some cases, they are as old as
300 years, and in others the age goes up to and beyond 600 or 700
years.  Yet are they just telling us what age they /would/ be if they
aged? There is no real talk of aliens dying or anything, and the
phrase "we always sleep" seems to suggest that they are in some way
void of death, thus age. If we're talking cloning, then how would this
allow each entity to have a light body?  To obtain a light body you
have to `ascend with it'.  Then you get the same body for life.  Would
it even be possible to die, injur the body, or take cosmic
consciousness of it from scratch?

Also, it has been suggested from less-than-likely sources that the
greys had some kind of genetic problem caused by a war or some
catastrophy, and that they need humans to build new vitality into
their race.  Firstly, genetic problems of `in-breeding' just don't
happen within cloning.  The very concept of cloning is to make a
perfect replica of a `model' body, not to produce errors through in-
breeding, and cloning itself and the removal of reproductive organs
doesn't allow direct copulation between them.  If you are to argue
that a clone will be used to clone FROM, then you have to question
exactly how logical that is.  Would you, with capabilities to clone an
entire being, cross-breed between alien species, and generally be
wizards of technology, overlook the fact that cloning from a clone
will produce detrimental effects?  Surely, IF they have a cloning
system, they would base it upon a reliable model, not on the et's
themselves.

In fact, the hypthesis that the aliens even /have/ a genetic problem
is only an assumption to try and explain why the are doing the hybrid
program. Just because they are using their own bodies to cross breed
with an existing species, does that mean that they have a survival
problem?  Would it not instead show that their main interest is in
creation, as they themselves propose in the words "It's all about
creation", and that they are simply creating a new intelligent species
which can populate perhaps a new planet, or an old one?  Besides, you
wouldn't really be cross-breeding traits of personality because they
are mental, and the mind is seperate of the body.  In cross-breeding
you'd only be combining the physical body and its properties, to act
as a host for a mind later on.

It is also said by the aliens that "we need the hybrids to slow down
our information transfer".  This seems to suggest that, as their minds
are highly developed, they need some kind of species inbetween the two
through which they can bring new understanding and peace, but that
such a thing isn't possible under current circumstances.  This would
also suggest that they need something inbetween human and grey, as if
there is a direct plan to transfer between the two species in some
future event, in which the normal thought-power of the greys is too
overwhelming.  It is certainly true that when the greys merge minds
with an abductee they are almost overpowering because they send
thoughts, pictures, and words at such an intensity and speed that it
almost shocks the system.  So these hybrids could be a sort of cross
between human and alien, which would in the future symbolise a direct
peaceful marriage between the two, and also serve to, if at all
necessary, re-envigorate the genetic strains of the two.

I remember in one abduction account that the aliens showed an abductee
parts of the alien brain which we humans didn't have (with regards to
mind-power), and then pointed out aspects of the human brain which
they didn't have (with regards to emotion).  These could be symbols,
not necessarily physical differences, but symbols of the differences
between our two minds and how the hybrid program might allow a merging
of these two.

It is certainly true that the mind moulds the body, and so a strain of
humans who have matured with time will have caused a `moulding' of the
human body through their actions, and now traits of the mind-
personality will now be embedded within that body.  Similarly with the
aliens, so a merger of the body would not only create a cross-breed,
but it would also create a combined body between alien and human in
which the matured elements would combine into a single thing.  The
brain works similar to how crystals do, working like a filter for
energies, so after all this time now that the human species has got to
a certain stage, our brains and bodies are now conditioned into a
position where there is a very close marriage between the mind and
body, where the body has moulded the energy form of the mind, and vice
versa.

So in a merger between our two species, they may not be inheriting the
mind directly, but they will inherit the brain which has been moulded
by the features of the human mind, and so will essentialy inherit this
conditioned filter through which, combining with the alien attributes,
will bring forth a new being who is not only a cross between the two
on physical levels, but also who will find themselves as a cross
between the two on mental terms, beacause their brain/filter will
contain potentials for elements of both personalities.  Now, would
they create this species and then send it away to a different planet,
or to their own planet?  I suppose it is just as likely that they'd
send them to their own planet if they were likely to send them here to
ours.

During the viewing of information, the usual scenes shown are
apocalyptic impressions of what might happen in the future if humanity
is not to buck its ideas up, and scenes of a new paradise which either
emerges from the destruction or which is being built elsewhere.
Indeed, it seems that in showing us really intense pictures of an
exaggerated future will serve to have a much more potent effect on us
subliminally.  As with the intensity of the rest of the abductions, it
seems that these entities are wanting to *seriously* get down to
business as quickly as possible, and in doing so they have to present
themselves and their teaching in intensity so as to successfully embed
it into the psyche and thus the lifestyle of the abductee.  Also, they
say "you will remember when you need to", or even "your wont remember
this".  In doing so, they are demonstrating how abductions in general
aren't supposed to come to the surface until the abductee is ready to
cope with it on less than subconsicous terms.  Some abductees, who
previously didn't know they were abductees, have found themselves
taking abduction-influenced life-changes without even knowing that
they are being abducted, only to find out later the circumstances
which have gone to make up their, at the time rash, decisions.

One view which is shown during the information is of a new planet, a
paradise of green trees and rolling hills, blue sky and so on, yet it
too is so extravagant that it almost looks /too/ good.  Many comment
on how surreal it almost seems, like an extreme exaggeration.  Still,
if they were to not exaggerate it to an extreme, would it make up for
the lack of attention we might pay to it, and thus the lack of
influence it has.  It would seem that if they are wanting to get this
message accross, they have to go to extreme lengths at the time,
because the human being filters out much of what they perceive, and
our memory recall isn't exactly perfect either.  So although the
intensity of these abductions is really strong, and I personally still
experience fear from time to time, simply through thinking about it,
it seems still that the whole thing is based on learning, and as such
it becomes necessary to go overboard in teaching us so that the
message gets deep enough to have a proper effect.  Would showing us a
scene of a normal planet, or showing us how an apocalyptical future
might simply comprise a few small battles, actually have much effect?
No.  It would leave little impression at all.  To really get through
to a human you've got to hit them deep and hard.

You may notice now that I am speaking as if I AM one of them.  This
commonly happens when abductees discuss the situations.  It seems to
arise from being shown all the problems with humanity, and thus it
makes us feel like we are outsiders, alone and different.  This cannot
really be avoided, but there is a great deal of assumptions made from
this natural reaction, and that is that the abductee themselves are a
hybrid.  I have nothing to go on personally to say that I am, so I
would be foolish to think so simply on the grounds that I talk about
humanity as if detatched from it.  Yet, there certainly /is/ grounds
for many to claim that they are in some way hybrid.  Aliens say "you
belond to us", or "you come from us", and some abductees are, for all
their lives, experiencing detatchment from humanity and a feeling that
this isn't really `home'.

Judging by the apparently random opportune attitude taken in choosing
an abductee, it would perhaps seem quite unlikely that they/we are all
hybrids, or that we actually all come from there.  But just because we
feel attatchment to them and feel many times as if we don't belong on
earth, does this mean we are hybrid, or would it perhaps suggest that
our `mind' is actually originated from their `race' and not from the
human one?  There are suggestions of abductees leading a double life,
one on earth and one with the aliens.  It is as if, when they go to be
abducted, they can take on form of an alien and experience from their
viewpoint.  There is one situation which sticks in my mind, where an
abductee was told "this is where you sleep when we are travelling",
having been shown some kind of bunk bed thing.  Does this make a
direct suggestion to higher-self?

How could an abductee possibly be present onboard the craft,
travelling and sleeping, at the same time as existing as a whole being
in the physical world of earth?  It is obviously physically
impossible, so it must in some way demonstrate a link between our
earthly selves and some kind of `higher' self, some kind of part of us
which almost has its own life in a higher plane/dimension.  Does this
mean that humans have a double life in two dimensions, or is this
simply a /natural/ thing which all humans have, ie that this higher
plane is just another place where our consciousness dwells, and where
the etheric/astral bodies can have lives of their own? Does this
perhaps show again that these beings are from a a higher plane, or in
other words another dimension, and could this give us some more clues
as to exactly `what' these beings are?

They seem to posess the technology to take their bodies from their
dwelling place into our physical reality, in totality, and are able to
manufacture medical operations in this higher place even though it
still has physical properties.  They do all this having bodies of
light, able to perform miraculous feats against reality.  If these
entities were ascended humans, it seems unlikely that they would take
on the alien form as the base of their history.  Instead, they would
be ascended from another race entirely. And what better way to
establish a peaceful relationship than to create something as
cooperation between the two species?

It would seem that even allowing us to experience elements of their
reality and their capabilities is going to condition us into a better
state of mind which might one day allow us to achieve the same status.
If one is not tempted by the flights to and from spacecraft, meeting
with aliens, walking through walls, and moulding of reality enough to
perform interdimensional travel of body, mind, and spacecraft, then
surely they are not seeing the splendid possibilities at hand, almost
symbolic of what we humans may be like at one time in the not so
distant future.

With regards to their manifesting into our physical reality, it seems
that it is almost too easy for them, that it takes no real effort.  In
fact, some of their craft are seen as UFO's.  Now, you have to ask, do
they really /have/ to come here in UFO's?  They can do all manner of
wonderful things, and not in every case do they take the person into a
UFO.  In many cases they come and they actually seem to perform
operations in the bedroom, and in others the bedroom of the abductee
changes its reality into that of an operating room within a craft,
with no real perception of having gone into a physical UFO.  They
don't seem to need a UFO to actually come here and collect us, so why
see them?

It seems, yet more learning.  I certainly don't think that their UFO's
are seen `by accident', or that they hide out anywhere to avoid being
seen. Those are just not logical conclusions.  Instead, going with
what we already know of their activities, it would seem that in
showing the presence of a UFO craft, they are having another powerful
subliminal moulding effect upon the minds of the people.  It would
probably be impracticle to abduct every human on the planet, so
instead, those who don't get special treatment will at least get
glimpses of these craft, which can have a profound affect on the life
of the individual.  It can shatter their cosy reality and turn many a
sceptic into a believer that UFO's really exist.  Someone I know told
me that he saw a UFO drift overhead, and that ever since his life has
changed, he's found love and things have been more mature, with a
better outlook on life.  If this isn't subtle reality moulding them I
don't know what is.  Why should a UFO even need to exist to carry
beings who can come without them?

I personally don't recall ever seeing a UFO, and in my most recent
`encounter' I was not aware of any strange lights, sounds, or any
indication of such a thing.  Perhaps this is because it is my belief
that they simply don't need them.  If I believed that they did, would
they then perhaps present such a thing to me, like presenting sexual
activity to an individual if that person has problems with it?
Probably.  But in this case they simply appear from practically
nowhere, and they move around as if not having to even open any doors.
I believe that the genuine UFO sightings of extraterrestrial craft are
not there as accidental perceptions of solid craft, but as yet more
subtle mind-moulding subliminal suggestions, designed to further
condition the mind of humanity and raise its general level.  It is
certainly true that UFO awareness has heightened since World War II,
and with it so have abductions.  Perhaps then we're talking about an
upping of the level on which these things are going, which in itself
is a conditioning from a state of little interest into one of major
interest.

And now, it seems that there is an almost worldwide fascination with
UFO's and UFOlogy, which is causing us a tremendous association with
all these things we consider to be alien-related.  Do you realise what
this is doing? Is this not remeniscent of the way in which the greys
teach their abductees tings?  First bring serious issues to the
surface and then evolve them into a much better picture?  Certainly,
if these aliens were to land and present themselves to humanity it
would serve to be another stage in the conditioning of us as a whole.
Perhaps then, after all, the governments really don't have a great
deal of control over public speculation with regards UFO's.

I certainly believe that a great deal of `disinformation' doesn't come
from the government, but is much more potent in being founded in the
everyday minds and creations of the whole populance.  We're now making
very intense associations with this UFOlogy stuff, yet what might
happen to change that? As with abductions, would things change from
associating with what is not there to what really is?  Would perhaps
the next step be, as suggested by some, to start averting the
government conspiracy theories by doing what some would call "calling
off cooperation with the government"?  Apart from them not really
having anything to do with the government anyway, I don't think, does
this basically mean that the aliens allowed the public to increase
speculation through the sightings of UFO's and the increase in
abductions, and now that they've raised a tremendous amount of
confusion and uncertainty on a parallel with the initial
interpretations of an abduction, they are beginning to do things which
will set the wheels in motion for further conditioning which can smash
our previous misconceptions and rumours to pieces?

When considering that they could play such a major role in our
development as this, could you then comprehend how they might have
done similar things throughout history?  Perhaps they /did/ create
Jesus.  It still seems to me that they might have given people nudges
throughout our history in the direction of creating `wrong' things and
later righting them.  This is how evolution works, and how we humans
learn stuff.  Firstly they create this atrocity called religeon, and
now they begin to raise our awareness into creating much more modern
and correct attitudes.  What I'm thinking now is that these entities
could well be essentially `in control' of our personal and global
guidance into a new era, and always were.

Not only do these entities have the power and control to mould the
mind of an individual into creating a much more sensible, reasoned
performance, which in itself is seen to be `spiritual awakening', or a
more `spiritual' course in life, but they seem also able to mould
reality beyond the confines of the individual, and display a foresignt
unparalled in our comprehension, capable of leading mankind through
all the stages of evolution `necessary' to associate and recognise all
the `bad' things so that they can be led away from them in knowledge.
Then you consider, might these entities be simply a creation of our
evolution. Looked at in one way, yes, but when you consider the
phenomenal control, dedication, logic, accuracy, precision, care, and
wisdom in the ways in which they teach not only the individual but
also in how this plays a part in global awakening, you can barely hold
back on recognising just how important these things are for us humans.

The intensity of abductee's experiences are something in a parallel
with dreams, where reality can be very intense and troubling, yet
almost forgotten about. Is it then any wonder that they need to go to
such intensity to get us to take notice? I suppose you might still
argue that they are just trying to make us play into their hands, that
they are ultimately evil and we are falling for it, but you won't find
a convert in me. These entities truly are great teachers and guides
for humanity, and if their past history, beyond fabrication, is
anything to go by, then something wonderful should happen in the near
future, fingers crossed.

Regards,

-pAuL-

MrWest@15.Shining.Conqueror.Co.Uk
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